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“

I'm tired of smoking, I'm tired of crack and I'm tired of doing your fucking housework

”

— Big Bear

Barry "Big Bear" Thorne is a character in the Grand Theft Auto series who appears as a supporting character in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Background

Big Bear is a member of the Grove Street Families and is one of the longest active members of the gang. Between 1987 and 1992 he had began to use drugs^[1].

Events of GTA San Andreas

Eventually, and by the time of the GTA San Andreas storyline, Bear had become the man servant of B Dup and does various chores, including cleaning the toilet. Bear had lost much respect and had turned on the Grove Street Families in order to get more drugs. However, Bear eventually confronts B Dup and decides to stop taking drugs. Sweet Johnson helps Bear with taking him to drug rehab.

Mission Appearances

GTA San Andreas

Beta missions

GTA San Andreas

Looking for Big Smoke

Trivia

In the game's internal files, in addition to the regular Big Bear model seen in the game, there is another unused model of him. This other model depicts a much fatter Big Bear, with slightly differently shaped facial features, but he is in the same clothes. It is unknown why this model is in the games files as it is never used in the game. It was probably going to be used in the beta Looking for Big Smoke mission.
In a deleted cutscene from the mission Beat Down on B Dup, Carl Johnson would take Bear to rehab with him explaining how he got into drugs. This would set up a mission where Carl would search for Big Smoke and would need to find an informant. Bear tells Carl and Sweet about a Russian Mafia gang member who would inform Carl of Smoke's whereabouts, which would set up End of the Line.
- Both of these facts state that Big Bear originally had a bigger role in the game.
His name could be a pun on baritone.
Big Bear was a malt liquor distributed by the Pabst Brewing Company. It was introduced by the Theo Hamm Brewing Company, which was purchased by Pabst. in 1999, Pabst sold the Hamm's Brand to Miller as part of the Stroh Deal but kept the malt liquor brand. It was discontinued in 2013. Its alcohol content varied depending on location, from 5.7% to 7.5% abv in the United States, and 7.0% to 8.0% in Canada. It was typically sold in 40 ounce bottles or 24 ounce cans.

Gallery

References

↑ Carl Johnson: "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"
Big Bear: "Man, Grove Street Families used to be tight, man. Then Li'l Brian Johnson caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."
Carl Johnson: "I know, but I'm back now."
Big Bear: "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the Beat Down on B Dup mission, found in a FAQ by RARusk)

Navigation

[ v • e ]Grove Street Families (3D Universe)
Leader	Sean "Sweet" Johnson
Members	Carl Johnson (underboss) \| Big Smoke † (lieutenant, formerly) \| Ryder † (lieutenant; formerly) \| OG Loc \| B Dup (formerly) \| Big Bear \| Emmet \| Little Weasel † (formerly) \| Big Devil † \| Little Devil † \| Tony † \| Dope
Associates	People: Beverly Johnson † \| Kendl Johnson \| Cesar Vialpando \| Denise Robinson \| LB \| Ran Fa Li \| Wu Zi Mu Gangs: San Fierro Triads \| Varrios Los Aztecas
Enemies	People: Big Smoke † \| Eddie Pulaski † \| Frank Tenpenny † \| Ryder † \| Little Weasel † Gangs: Ballas \| C.R.A.S.H. \| Los Santos Vagos \| Russian Mafia \| San Fierro Rifa \| Loco Syndicate
Fronts	Emmet's \| Johnson House \| Sweet Johnson's House
Turf	Own Turf: Ganton \| Playa del Seville \| Santa Maria Beach \| Temple Acquirable Turf: East Beach \| East Los Santos \| Glen Park \| Idlewood \| Jefferson \| Las Colinas \| Los Flores \| Verona Beach \| Vinewood \| Willowfield
Sets	Seville Boulevard Families \| Temple Drive Families

[Rehab-1] Carl Johnson: "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"
Big Bear: "Man, Grove Street Families used to be tight, man. Then Li'l Brian Johnson caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."
Carl Johnson: "I know, but I'm back now."
Big Bear: "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the Beat Down on B Dup mission, found in a FAQ by RARusk)

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-{{infobox character
+{{Infobox character
-|name = Barry "Big Bear" Thorne
+|name = Barry Thorne
 |image = BigBear-GTASA.jpg
 |size = 160px
-|games = [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA: San Andreas]]
+|games = [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]
-|aka = Big Bear
+|aka = Big Bear<br>Bear
 |gender = M
-|pob = [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]
+|pob = [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos (3D Universe)|Los Santos]]
-|home = Flat in [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]], [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]] (formerly)<br>B Dup's house in [[Glen Park]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]], [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]] ([[Beat Down on B Dup|formerly]])
+|home = [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos (3D Universe)|Los Santos]] <small>(prior to [[1992]])</small><br>[[B Dup's Apartment]] in [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos (3D Universe)|Los Santos]] <small>(formerly)</small><br>[[B Dub's Crack Palace]] in [[Glen Park]], [[Los Santos (3D Universe)|Los Santos]] <small>([[Beat Down on B Dup|formerly]])</small>
-|nationality = {{Flagicon|United States of America|Flag of the United States}} [[United States of America|American]]
+|nationality = {{Flagicon|United States of America|Flag of the United States}} [[United States of America|African-American]]
-|affiliations = [[Carl Johnson]]<br>[[Sweet Johnson]]<br>[[B Dup]] ([[Beat Down on B Dup|formerly]])<br>[[Grove Street Families]]
+|affiliations = [[Grove Street Families]]<br>[[B Dup]] <small>([[Beat Down on B Dup|formerly]])</small><br>[[Sweet Johnson]]<br>[[Carl Johnson]]
-|voice = [[Kurt Alexander|Big Boy]] (Kurt Alexander)
+|voice = [[Kurt Alexander]]
 |status = Alive}}
+{{Quote|I'm tired of smoking, I'm tired of crack and I'm tired of doing your fucking housework|Big Bear}}
-'''Barry Thorne'''<ref name="IMDB">{{cite web | url = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383385/fullcredits#cast | title = Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas full credit list | work = Internet Movie Database | accessdate = | accessyear = }}</ref>, also known as '''Big Bear''', is a character in the [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto series]] who appears as a supporting character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]. Thorne was voiced by [[Kurt Alexander]], who is credited as Big Boy.<ref name="IMDB">{{cite web | url = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383385/fullcredits#cast | title = Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas full credit list | work = Internet Movie Database | accessdate = | accessyear = }}</ref>
+'''Barry "Big Bear" Thorne''' is a character in the [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto series]] who appears as a supporting character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]].
 ==Background==
-'''Barry Thorne''' is a member of the [[Grove Street Families]] and is one of the longest active members of the gang. Between 1987 and 1992 he had began to use drugs<ref name="Rehab">'''[[Carl Johnson]]''': "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Man, [[Grove Street Families]] used to be tight, man. Then Li'l [[Brian Johnson]] caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."<br>'''Carl Johnson''': "I know, but I'm back now."<br>'''Big Bear''': "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became  a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the [[Beat Down on B Dup]] mission, found in a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/914983/39957 FAQ by RARusk])</ref>.
+Big Bear is a member of the [[Grove Street Families]] and is one of the longest active members of the gang. Between [[1987]] and [[1992]] he had began to use drugs<ref name="Rehab">'''Carl Johnson''': "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Man, Grove Street Families used to be tight, man. Then Li'l [[Brian Johnson]] caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."<br>'''Carl Johnson''': "I know, but I'm back now."<br>'''Big Bear''': "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became  a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the Beat Down on B Dup mission, found in a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/914983/39957 FAQ by RARusk])</ref>.
 ==Events of ''GTA San Andreas''==
+Eventually, and by the time of the GTA San Andreas storyline, Bear had become the man servant of [[B Dup]] and does various chores, including cleaning the toilet. Bear had lost much respect and had turned on the Grove Street Families in order to get more drugs. However, Bear eventually confronts B Dup and decides to stop taking drugs. [[Sweet Johnson]] helps Bear with taking him to drug rehab.
+==Mission Appearances==
-Eventually, and by the time of the GTA San Andreas storyline, Bear had become the man servant of [[B Dup]] and does various chores, including cleaning the toilet.<ref name="Toilet Cleaner">'''[[B Dup]]''': "Nah, the only thing Bear give a fuck about is smoking and keeping my house clean. Ain't that right, Big Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell yeah."<br>'''[[B Dup]]''': "Hell yeah, what?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell, yeah, sir!"<br>'''[[B Dup]]''': "Now go make that mother-fucking toilet sparkle." (from the [[Cleaning the Hood]] mission)</ref> Bear had lost much respect and had turned on the [[Grove Street Families]] in order to get more drugs.<ref name="GSF">'''[[B Dup]]''': "Nah, the only thing Bear give a fuck about is smoking and keeping my house clean. Ain't that right, Big Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell yeah." (from the [[Cleaning the Hood]] mission)</ref> However, Bear eventually confronts [[B Dup]] and decides to stop taking drugs.<ref name="[[B Dup]]">'''[[B Dup]]''': "Kill these mother-fuckers and I'll give you a whole quarter sack. Now handle that. Shoot them! What the fuck is wrong with you? You ain't hear what the fuck I said?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "I'm tired of smoking, I'm tired of crack and I'm tired of doing your fucking housework. (from the [[Beat Down on B Dup]] mission)</ref> [[Sweet Johnson]] helps Bear with taking him to drug rehab.<ref name="Rehab 2">'''Big Bear (Barry Thorne)''': " Where we going, Sweet?"<br>'''[[Sweet Johnson]]''': "Someplace where we can get old Bear back!" (from the [[Beat Down on B Dup]] mission)</ref>
-==Mission appearances==
 ;GTA San Andreas
 *[[Cleaning the Hood]]
 *[[Beat Down on B Dup]]
-=== Deleted missions ===
+===Beta missions===
 ;GTA San Andreas
 *[[Looking for Big Smoke]]
 ==Trivia==
+*In the game's internal files, in addition to the regular Big Bear model seen in the game, there is another [[Beta Pedestrians in GTA San Andreas|unused model]] of him. This other model depicts a much fatter Big Bear, with slightly differently shaped facial features, but he is in the same clothes. It is unknown why this model is in the games files as it is never used in the game. It was probably going to be used in the beta [[Looking for Big Smoke]] mission.
+*In a deleted cutscene from the mission [[Beat Down on B Dup]], [[Carl Johnson]] would take Bear to rehab with him explaining how he got into drugs. This would set up a mission where Carl would search for [[Big Smoke]] and would need to find an informant. Bear tells Carl and Sweet about a [[Russian Mafia (3D Universe)|Russian Mafia]] gang member who would inform Carl of Smoke's whereabouts, which would set up [[End of the Line]].
+**Both of these facts state that Big Bear originally had a bigger role in the game.
-*In the games files, in addition to the Big Bear model seen in the game, there is another model of Big Bear in the same clothes, but much fatter. It is unknown why this model is in the games files as it is never used in the game. It is possible that there was originally a mission involving Big Bear before his drug use took over.
-*In a deleted cutscene from the mission [[Beat Down on B Dup]], [[Carl Johnson]] would take Bear to rehab with Bear explaining how he got into drugs. This would set up a mission where Carl would search for [[Big Smoke]] and would need to find an informant. Bear tells Carl and Sweet about a [[Russian Mafia]] gang member who would inform CJ of Smoke's whereabouts, which would set up [[End of the Line]].
-*Both of these facts state that Big Bear originally had a bigger role in the game.
 *His name could be a pun on ''baritone''.
+*Big Bear was a [[wp:Malt liquor|malt liquor]] distributed by the [[wp:Pabst Brewing Company|Pabst Brewing Company]]. It was introduced by the Theo Hamm Brewing Company, which was purchased by Pabst. in [[1999]], Pabst sold the Hamm's Brand to Miller as part of the Stroh Deal but kept the malt liquor brand. It was discontinued in [[2013]]. Its alcohol content varied depending on location, from 5.7% to 7.5% [[wp:Alcohol by volume|abv]] in the [[United States]], and 7.0% to 8.0% in [[Canada]]. It was typically sold in 40 ounce bottles or 24 ounce cans.
 ==Gallery==
 <gallery>
-Csbigbear2.PNG|An unused pedestrian model, called in the games files 'csbigbear2'.This could be one of few beta versions of Big Bear.
+Csbigbear2.PNG|An unused pedestrian model, called in the games files 'csbigbear2'. This could be one of few beta versions of Big Bear.
 Fat bb.jpg|The unused Fat Big Bear Model.
 </gallery>
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 </div>
+==Navigation==
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