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==Categorization==
 
==Categorization==
Hello, all. I am admittedly a little confused by the heirarchy decided upon. Why would we not want to ''also'' put cities, e.g. [[San Fierro]], into [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]]? Isn't San Fierro a location in the game? As is stands, it seems a little jumbled to me to have individual cities only listed in [[:Category:Locations]], but not in the appropriate game subcategories. If I were a new player of [[GTA San Andreas]], looking through [[:Category:Locations]] for the [[Calton Heights]] district of San Fierro, I would most likely '''not''' start by looking through the numerous (IMO, too many) articles listed at the bottom, but would instead look under [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]] to find the city and specific entity I'm looking for in this particular game. Furthermore, it seems to me a little more succinct to have the heriarchy go [[:Category:Locations]] --> [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]] --> [[:Category:Locations in San Fierro]] --> [[Calton Heights]]. According to the pre-defined heirarchy, I would ''only'' be able to find Calton Heights by going to [[:Category:San Fierro]]. What does everyone else think?
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Hello, all. I am admittedly a little confused by the heirarchy decided upon. Why would we not want to ''also'' put cities, e.g. [[San Fierro]], into [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]]? Isn't San Fierro a location in the game? As is stands, it seems a little jumbled to me to have individual cities only listed in [[:Category:Locations]], but not in the appropriate game subcategories. If I were a new player of [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]], looking through [[:Category:Locations]] for the [[Calton Heights]] district of San Fierro, I would most likely '''not''' start by looking through the numerous (IMO, too many) articles listed at the bottom, but would instead look under [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]] to find the city and specific entity I'm looking for in this particular game. Furthermore, it seems to me a little more succinct to have the heriarchy go [[:Category:Locations]] --> [[:Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas]] --> [[:Category:Locations in San Fierro]] --> [[Calton Heights]]. According to the pre-defined heirarchy, I would ''only'' be able to find Calton Heights by going to [[:Category:San Fierro]]. What does everyone else think?
   
 
All that having been said, I am most likely confused by what is being considered as a location, and what constitutes ''gaming'' info., and what is simply ''general interest''. Can someone enlighten me? :-) '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 20:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 
All that having been said, I am most likely confused by what is being considered as a location, and what constitutes ''gaming'' info., and what is simply ''general interest''. Can someone enlighten me? :-) '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 20:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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:Actually, we still do have to distinguish between games for Liberty City, don't we? I see your point. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:Actually, we still do have to distinguish between games for Liberty City, don't we? I see your point. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
   
::How about this: because [[San Andreas]] is only a city in [[GTA 1]], and is an entire state in only [[GTA San Andreas]], it would be alright to say [[:Category:Businesses in San Fierro]], since [[San Fierro]] exists in only one game. For [[Liberty City]], then, how about just creating categories like [[:Category:Businesses in GTA IV]], without subdividing, since no subdivisions are necessary, owing to the fact that GTA IV takes place in only one city. What does everyone think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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::How about this: because [[San Andreas]] is only a city in [[Grand Theft Auto 1|GTA 1]], and is an entire state in only [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]], it would be alright to say [[:Category:Businesses in San Fierro]], since [[San Fierro]] exists in only one game. For [[Liberty City]], then, how about just creating categories like [[:Category:Businesses in GTA IV]], without subdividing, since no subdivisions are necessary, owing to the fact that GTA IV takes place in only one city. What does everyone think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
   
:::Well despite the fact that in [[GTA IV]] [[Liberty City in GTA IV|Liberty City]] is only a city, it's only slightly smaller than [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. However, it could be done by borough... ie. [[:Category:Businesses in Algonquin]]. Thoughts? '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 11:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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:::Well despite the fact that in [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]] [[Liberty City in GTA IV|Liberty City]] is only a city, it's only slightly smaller than [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. However, it could be done by borough... ie. [[:Category:Businesses in Algonquin]]. Thoughts? '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 11:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
   
 
== Locations and Places ==
 
== Locations and Places ==

Latest revision as of 17:23, September 9, 2010

CategorizationEdit

Hello, all. I am admittedly a little confused by the heirarchy decided upon. Why would we not want to also put cities, e.g. San Fierro, into Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas? Isn't San Fierro a location in the game? As is stands, it seems a little jumbled to me to have individual cities only listed in Category:Locations, but not in the appropriate game subcategories. If I were a new player of GTA San Andreas, looking through Category:Locations for the Calton Heights district of San Fierro, I would most likely not start by looking through the numerous (IMO, too many) articles listed at the bottom, but would instead look under Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas to find the city and specific entity I'm looking for in this particular game. Furthermore, it seems to me a little more succinct to have the heriarchy go Category:Locations --> Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas --> Category:Locations in San Fierro --> Calton Heights. According to the pre-defined heirarchy, I would only be able to find Calton Heights by going to Category:San Fierro. What does everyone else think?

All that having been said, I am most likely confused by what is being considered as a location, and what constitutes gaming info., and what is simply general interest. Can someone enlighten me? :-) EganioTalk 20:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it would be easier just like that. --Tsukaji 20:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I like your idea of subcategorizing within the cities, such as Category:Businesses in San Fierro. The only problem I can foresee is overcategorization, something I have definitely been guilty of! However, I am of the opinion that categories that tend to become too full of articles and subcategories should be parsed in favor of clarity and ease of navigation. So far, there is so much information that will end up in categories such as Category:Locations, that I think it would behoove us to discuss how to subdivide things. For instance, I go into Category:Locations, see the jumbled mess of articles at the bottom, and immediately go to the top, because it seems organized much more succinctly. Thoughts? EganioTalk 21:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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I think that Tsukaji makes a good suggestion for the categorisation of business in the Locations categories. As they aren't really locations, merely businesses, a sub-category is logical. However, I would suggest that the categories have qualifiers in brackets because, for example, businesses in Liberty City could refer to either GTA 1, GTA III, GTA Advance, GTA Liberty City Stories and/or GTA IV. A-Dust 21:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, yes, that's more or less what I had in mind. Howerver, it might be better to subcategorize within game designations, as is already being done here, i.e. Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas --> Category:Locations in San Fierro --> etc. I think the same should be done for businesses, i.e. Category:Businesses in GTA San Andreas --> Category:Businesses in San Fierro --> etc. That way we don't have to distunguish between games in the subcategories. Thoughts? EganioTalk 21:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, we still do have to distinguish between games for Liberty City, don't we? I see your point. EganioTalk 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
How about this: because San Andreas is only a city in GTA 1, and is an entire state in only GTA San Andreas, it would be alright to say Category:Businesses in San Fierro, since San Fierro exists in only one game. For Liberty City, then, how about just creating categories like Category:Businesses in GTA IV, without subdividing, since no subdivisions are necessary, owing to the fact that GTA IV takes place in only one city. What does everyone think? EganioTalk 21:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Well despite the fact that in GTA IV Liberty City is only a city, it's only slightly smaller than San Andreas. However, it could be done by borough... ie. Category:Businesses in Algonquin. Thoughts? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 11:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Locations and Places Edit

I'm confused on what should be there. To me those two words mean the same thing. It's the same problem with Locations in GTA IV and Liberty City in GTA IV.--Spaceeinstein 17:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

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