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==Featured Images==
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'''Please input your new requests above the old ones. That way, we can easily spot it rather than looking for it.'''
Hi guys. Basically, I think that we should take down the Featured Images section of the main page. I think this because I believe that it looks messy, boring and frankly, I never notice it. So yeah, I think it should be taken down. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 16:55, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
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== Media Policy: A New-Look Image Policy ==
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:09, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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This has been lingering around the wiki for a few days. A policy about uploading videos to the wiki has been suggested by [[User:AndreEagle17|Andre]]. My idea;
*'''Yes - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Could Be''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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We add info to the image policy about uploading videos and rename it the ''Media Policy''. It will be in one location for users to understand how to add both images and videos here.
*Yeah, maybe change it to the latest screenshots of GTA V? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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* '''ALL''' videos must have a clear picture and clean audio.
**Agree [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:25, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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* All videos must be copyrighted to show who the video belongs to, the video's site and Rockstar Games.
*Latest screenshots sounds good. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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** All videos have to be GTA related.
*I agree with the idea, and Instu's idea is good too, but I think the purpose of that particular section is showing "good quality" images, I think that's the only reason for it being placed there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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* Videos '''MUST NOT''' violate other policies such as leaked information.
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* Videos must have an extra copyright if it features music.
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Feel free to add to the policy and vote on whether or not we should implement this. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 09:02, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Introducing the new Welcome Automessage!==
 
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 9 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
Ladies and Gents. [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]] and I have here, the wiki's replacement to that redundant and old automated message. '''The [[Template:Welcome]]'''. This will get the wiki's contributors more interested in editing and will flourish a lot of trusted editors, let alone Staff. Please imput your votes about adding this message in lieu of the old automated message and comments about this template below. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 07:29, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
 
*'''Of course!''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Nice one guys''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes from me - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 13:58, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Triple Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:04, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
   
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=== Votes ===
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* '''Yes''' - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 09:02, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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* '''Yes '''- [[File:MONKEYPOLICE188.png|100px|link=User:Monkeypolice188]] ([[User talk:Monkeypolice188|talk]]) | ([[Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|stalk]]) 11:25, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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* '''Yes''' - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">stalk</span>]]/[[User blog:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">blog</span>]]) 13:51, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 13:55, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Hunter]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 18:03, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 21:12, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
   
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=== Comments ===
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*Absolutely, i've seen quite a few pages with videos which contravene these rules. {{Monkeypolice188/Sig}}
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*I would add that videos should not contain any form of self-promotion (audio or text) or advertising apart from a watermark (we obviously have to allow this since we are using GTASeriesVideos we can't really say it is prohibited like we do for still images). [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 21:12, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
   
===Comments===
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==Missions in GTA 2==
*Sure, go ahead. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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I was just writing this to let you guys know who want to get some edits that most of the missions in GTA 2 still need infoboxes and images. To get the images, watch GTA Series Videos play the mission on Youtube, print screen it while it is saying the mission name and then crop it in an editing application such as Paint.NET. I'm currently doing it as well but I'm going to have to continue tomorrow as I am going shortly.
*I've corrected the links to Staff pages so there aren't any dead links, all it needs now is a link to the policy and I think it'll be very good. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*The template looks very great and that would be an amazing Welcome Automessage, the new user will read it and maybe this template will reduce the vandalism or wrong-editing or false-content adding to the Wiki. Unbelievable amazing. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I like it! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It took you a while to finish it, Tony, but it's great!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*Looks good! Maybe add a splash of colour to it? :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Since this template amassed some positive reviews, we should proceed on adding it to'' mediawiki.css,'' but let's wait for a couple days until we get the whole staff a chance to look. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 00:06, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I like that idea of yours Tony! [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Staff status==
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Also, the missions in GTA 1 are pretty much a lost cause because I can't find videos of the missions anywhere to get images or even an understanding of what happens in the mission. If anyone can do either of these things then that would be great.
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - 4 votes of 'No' and 2 votes of 'Yes' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
The status of the staff member should be written under his name, to let any user know who to contact form staff members. A lot of wikis have done this thing, one of them is the [[w:c:battlefield|Battlefield Wiki]], see there [[w:c:battlefield:Battlefield Wiki:Administrators|staff]].
 
   
for example:
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Thanks, [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 23:55, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center" style="font-size:90%"
 
|[[File:McJeff-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:McJeff|125px]]
 
|[[File:Messi1983-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:Messi1983]]
 
|[[File:TheTom-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:The Tom]]
 
|-
 
!{{Flagicon|United States of America|Flag of the United States}} [[User:McJeff|McJeff]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:The Tom|The Tom]]<br />Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
|}
 
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center" style="font-size:90%"
 
|[[File:LS11sVaultBoy-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:LS11sVaultBoy|125px]]
 
|[[File:MikeyKlebbitz-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Mikey Klebbitz|125px]]
 
|[[File:WinterMoon-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Winter Moon|125px]]
 
|-
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Portugal|Flag of Portugal}} [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Unknown|Unknown}} [[User:Winter Moon|Winter Moon]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
|}
 
--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 01:03, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
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==Patroller to Administrator Qualification Criteria==
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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Closed as unsuccessful - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 23:55, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
*'''No''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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===Background===
*'''No''' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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A week ago, [[User:Leon Davis|Leo]] made an [http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Requests_for_Promotion?diff=740986&oldid=740933 update] to the [[GTA_Wiki:Requests_for_Promotion|RfP]] rules to add the probation period for new Patrollers as had been agreed by the Bureaucrats and Admins. At the same time he also changed the line relating to experience required for applicants to the Administrator role.
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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{{q|To qualify for administrator rights, editors must have been active for four months with no rules violations.|Prior version}}
*'''No''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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{{q|To qualify for administrator rights, editors must have been active patrollers for four months with no rule violations.|Revised version}}
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
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This was probably an outcome of a [[User_talk:LS11sVaultBoy#Question|discussion]] [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|Tom]] had been involved in with with [[User_talk:WildBrick142#RE:_Question_2|Wildbrick142]] about that section but he had stated
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{{q|I think you would be best if you ran for Patroller first just to make it "fair" so that you get promoted in the same way as everyone else and then a month or two later you could run for admin.|Tom replying to Wildbrick142}}
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As I [[User_talk:Leon_Davis#Promotion_from_Patroller_to_Admin|discussed]] with Leo [[User_talk:Smurfynz#NG_Vehicle_Images|at the time]], I probably agree with the change (despite it directly impacting my personal agenda), but I don't believe it was an authorized rule update and it should be discussed and agreed by Admin/Bureaucrat staff before being added. Similarly to the Probation discussion, Patrollers and editors should not get a say in this discussion as we would have a vested interest in retaining the status quo. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 01:43, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
===Comments===
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===Bureaucrat and Admin only vote===
*I don't see the point, considering that most of us are active. Adding this would promote patrollers to write demotions against semi-active admins/bureaucrats.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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====Votes====
*Well, I agree with Dodo. Besides it, I don't think Messi is semi-active. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*<strike>'''Yes '''</strike> '''No'''[[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 02:00, January 28, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
*As per Dodo. Plus, Tommy, check Dan's page. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]])
*I think it is actually quite a good idea. It helps users learn about the staff more and helps them know what member of staff is active for them to talk to, incase they are in need of help. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 04:37, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
*I don't see the point in doing this, either. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 10:01, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
*It is what it is. If a user needs help and messages a semi-active staff member, then the whole purpose of the staff is pointless. The user doesn't get help, and if a semi active alert was in place, that user would get a quick response from an active staff member. Why cripple the system? Lets improve it! [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 15:44, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[User:Carl Johnson Jr.|Carl Johnson Jr.]] ([[User talk:Carl Johnson Jr.|talk]]) 00:19, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Adding flags to the different language GTA Wikis==
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====Discussion (all editors welcome) ====
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 3 votes of 'Yes', one vote of 'Undecided' and 0 votes of 'No' --[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 17:00, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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*I don't want to just say "if you've been blocked you can never be promoted" because it's not necessary. We've had multiple editors who got blocked, realized that this wasn't one of those online communities that doesn't actually enforce its rules, cleaned up their act and went on to be administrators. If there are outstanding behavior concerns about any editor running for promotion, those concerns should be brought up during the voting - that's what the vote is for in the first place, and that's why it's supposed to last for a week. As for length of time an editor has to be editing to be eligible to promote, I don't have much of a problem with such a thing but I don't really think it's necessary. Lack of being active long enough is always brought up when new editors go for a promotion too soon, and we've also had a couple particularly good editors show up and get promoted more quickly than usual. Basically, I feel it's better to consider every editor individually rather than try to make ironclad rules, because ironclad rules tend to do more harm than good in the long run. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 02:25, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
I got this idea. We should add the flag icon near the name of the different language GTA Wikis.
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*After reading what McJeff said, I'm on his side. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 02:32, January 28, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
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*Since Jeff is happy to include all editors in the discussion (but not the vote), I would suggest Leo's edit requires a minor semantic change: ''To qualify for administrator rights, <span style=color:orange>patrollers</span> must have been active for four months with no rule violations.'' [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 03:02, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I agree about keeping the "four months as a patroller to become an admin" rule. Experience should be an important aspect to be promoted, and I was never a fan of promoting people who are in the wikia for one or two months just because their edits are good, It makes the promotion seems way too easy and insignificant. Making it take longer not just makes the person who wants to get the promotion work harder, but also make him valorize the position more when he finally get it, with also reduces the chances of him resigning too soom. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 03:19, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*To reitirate. I made an alteration to the admin area as it said ''Users must have been active for four months.'' I figured, being a first time users never usually make admin first, they have to become patrollers. I changed the word users to patrollers. I figured it would make more sense. I changed this when I added the information about probationary periods for patrollers to the Requests for Promotion page. If people were confused, tell me, and then if it made more sense then I could have changed it back. I don't think users should be allowed to skip Patroller and make admin. It just can't justified. I also believe we don't need to change anything about administrator rights. I voted no. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 04:37, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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* Man, I really must not have been as clear in the way I had written this out as I thought I was.
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** I'm not suggesting I thought the rule wording meant editors could skip the Patroller step, although that was a little ambiguous and probably needed clarifying, as shown by the question Wildbrick posed to Tom. 
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::: Prior to Leo's edit, the way the rule was written and the way I understood it, any Patroller with a '''total of 4 months editing '''could have applied for Admin. (e.g. 2 months as editor to qualify for patroller, 2 months as patroller to qualify for admin). After the edit, that was now a total of 6 months "minimum" (e.g. 2 months as editor to qualify for patroller, 4 months as patroller to qualify for admin). That was what the change meant to the rule to me. 
   
for example:
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::: The vote here was: ''Should Patrollers now be required to serve a minimum of 4 months as a Patroller to qualify to apply for an Administrator position?'' '''not''' whether Admin positions should be open to non-patrollers. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 05:12, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I don't think that there should be a prohibition of not getting promoted if an editor was blocked. Some people who have previously been blocked, learn from their mistakes and work hard to qualify for a staff position. Hence in my opinion their should not be a rule like "If you ever got blocked, you can never be promoted".[[User:Myth hunter|Hunter]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 15:14, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*What everyone said. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 15:17, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*Jeff is right. Proof [http://gta.wikia.com/Special:Log/block?page=User%3AMikey+Klebbitz here] and [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=Thomas0802&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= here]. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 15:25, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*A vote within six monthss is justifiable. We're not going to promote someone who was recently banned, but we're not going to deny previously banned users from applying for promotion. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 15:27, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I agree with Leo. The applying person should not be banned in last 4 or 6 months.[[User:Myth hunter|Hunter]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 15:33, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I agree with Jeff. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 15:44, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I agree with Jeff too. Promotions should be considered on an individual basis, as some new users hit the ground running whilst others get into the swing of it gradually. When it comes to patrollers becoming admins, however, I think there should be a minimum amount of time, as the step up is a big one and some sink and others swim. With regards to welcoming back banned members, I think there should also be a minimum amount of time (four months to become patrollers, six to become admins) before they can apply for staff positions as that allows the rest of us to see if they've learnt their lessons. For users like Sasquatch, it's too early for him to be considered again as he's very inactive and we're having to remind him how to behave. I think returning users deserve second chances, but they must be earnt. [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 15:58, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*Promotions require special examinations of the users. I agree with Leo. [[User:Carl Johnson Jr.|Carl Johnson Jr.]] ([[User talk:Carl Johnson Jr.|talk]]) 00:19, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== XPanetta ==
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Heads up to all the users, XPanetta is going onto other wikis to convince users to un-block him now that Ilan is gone. Ignore him, if the harassment continues, report him to an admin, or if you can block him from the wiki like I have. See [http://thebill.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:11869 the latest log] on The Bill Wikia, where I am a Bureaucrat (he has been blocked from said wiki). The first notice was in September, and the most recent was today. {{unsigned|Leon Davis}}
   
--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] (<span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">[[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]]</span><span class="ts-slide">[[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]</span></span>) 00:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the warning Leo. Considering Tom was one of the ones harrassed by X I can't see him unblocking X any time soon, but we'll all keep our eyes open for him. I think eventually Wikia will do an IP block on him if he continues his harrassment and gets blocked from wikis one by one. [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 16:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
===Votes===
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I blocked him a month ago on another Wiki for harassing Smashbro. Ever since he got blocked he has so far only cross-wiki harrassed administrators to get unblocked. I'm thinking about filling a report to Wikia against him. I could read once that harrassment can lead to your account being globally blocked. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 17:17, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:24, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Undecided''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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I'd file a report if I were you Rain. There's enough evidence of harrassment and he even helps us by listing what he was blocked for. [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 17:41, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
*Seriously, why are all your projects related to the templates I created?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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I don't think our admin cleanout has been that drastic that trolls like this will get away with asking to have well-deserved infinite blocks overturned. His current harrassing and pleading and demanding is no different to what he has been doing constantly since he was first warned here, let alone after his block(s). Wikia staff have told him point blank he deserved the block and he should pull his head in, but he hasn't given up. Eventually I think he will get a global Wikia block. In the mean time, I do feel sorry for those of you who have your other wikia activity advertised in your profiles which makes you potential targets for him. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 07:50, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
**Believe me it's nothing related to you, I saw the [http://pl.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Polish GTA Wiki] has done this thing. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 09:48, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Yes, but you're using my [[Template:Flagicon|template]]. Anyways...
 
****The template is not 100% needed we can replace it with 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****I replaced the template with a 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:36, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*See, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I've came to the conclusion that there is no reason not to have these flags there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes, but not the normal flags. Real flags have different ratios, and look odd. If the request is approved I'll search for some other flag pictures.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Search for whatever you search for that's why you're the expert! Btw how can you know the codes of the colors? is it Wikia Developers Wiki? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 19:33, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It seems like an unnecessary feature to me, I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, so I'll assume it's just cosmetic. I don't feel strongly enough either way to actually vote so I'll leave this with everyone else. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:31, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*According Tom's opinion, I don't think it's really necessary. But maybe it should help users to search the Wiki quickly. I'll think a little more. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Affiliations to R* games' Wikis==
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:He messaged me on my talk page on wikianswers. I reverted the edit stating that I do not wish to discuss GTA Wiki on another wiki. If he continues such harrassment I will block him there. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 11:33, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - five votes of 'No', and only four votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:43, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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===Report===
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As I am busy today coupled with what appear to be internet problems (pages that take time to load and etc.), I'm putting here all evidence I could gather regarding XPanettaa harrassing others. If anyone can report him, they must do this through [[w:c:community:Special:Contact|this]]. One should provide evidence of it as I doubt Wikia staff would deal with someone without proof. If anyone has more evidence of it, post it below.
   
This is a big project, like Rockstar Games has been developing games for more than ten years, Rockstar made a lot of fans around the world. Most of the users here on the GTA Wikia integrate with other Wikis too, most of them are from R* games. I'm giving the idea, that we should make affiliations to Wikis that are from Rockstar content. They are so good like us and most of our users, even Staff members, contribute to those Wikis, I'm proposing, that we should show our loyalty to these Wikis and that will maybe make us more noted by the other Wikis. The proposes are the Max Payne Wiki, Red Dead Wiki, Rockstar Games Wiki, L.A Noire Wiki, Bully Wiki, Manhunt Wiki and Midnight Club Wiki.
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Evidence:
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*XP's thread on Community Wiki: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:740624
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*XP's original request to be unblocked to Ilan (at least the only one Ilan replied to): http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ilan_xd#Block
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*Ilan's reply to XP with a clear "NO": http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:XPanettaa#RE:
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*Harrassment of Smashbro8: http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:12995 and http://midnightclub.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:4308
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*Harrassment of Leon Davis: http://thebill.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:11869
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*Harrassment of The Tom: http://mafiagame.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:18856
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*Harrassment of Messi1983 mentioned above: http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Messi1983?diff=5935870&oldid=5294604
   
:Note : If you want to strike one of the Wikis that you disagree with affiliation or you find not good or elevated, comment in the comments section and maybe we can create an extra discussion page for it. So let's show that we are a graceful Wiki and we want to show generosity to other R* Games too.
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I'll reply to any questions about it on my talk page. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 14:19, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 18:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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He knows some of us are admins/bureaucrats of other wikis, he will be harrising us as soon as he knows which wiki we run, he has been in multiple wikis, such as the Midnight Club wiki, the Bill wiki, the Watch Dogs wiki, the Red Dead wiki, the Mafia wiki, he didn't attempt to visit my Scarface wiki yet, but i'll not even answer him, he'll be automatically blocked, he and Sean are a pain in the ass. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 15:41, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
===Votes===
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===Update===
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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Report filed. I have sent a report including the evidence to Wikia, and received an email back saying they will look into the evidence and get back to me within two days if necessary. [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 15:26, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No '''- [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 20:05, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 12:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No (for most of them [read my comment])''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' (for most of them) -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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I have received an email from the Wiki moderators. Here is the email in full:
*This is a great idea. We should affiliate with each one of them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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"Hello,
**I think I'm changing my mind we should affiliate with R* games wiki only because we have a lot of shared articles with R* wiki. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:09, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for contacting us, and apologies for the slow response. I have communicated to XPanettaa that his actions are not reasonable, and that he should desist in his pestering about the block. Hopefully this will have a positive effect.
*I agree with you on affiliating with only R* produced games. I love the idea of linking up all the R* games wikis as that will create a great network for fans to easily navigate from on to another. Great proposal of killing seven birds with on stone. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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With regards the other user, they do currently have a Wikia-wide block against those accounts - so you shouldn't be continuing to have issues with them. Has there been any recent activity around that? (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:741274#38appears to come a little out of the blue, the previous response being in November).
*This would attract new users to the GTA Wiki and the same to others. It's a win-win situation.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and best regards,
*All my prior comments about 'affiliated wikis' stand. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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George Marbulcanti (Kirkburn)
**Wait, wait. All the R* Wiki'''s'''? I thought it's the actual Rockstar Wiki (the text was too long to read). It's a '''No''' from me.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> ''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''
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Wikia Community Support" [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]])
*The Rockstar Games Wiki, is OK, since it's run by Ilan and Bunny, but the rest, I'm not sure... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**The Max Payne Wiki and the Red Dead Wiki are also okay. I serve as an admin on both.
 
***Hmm...sometimes I go to Red Dead and L. A. Noire, but not usually to Max Payne...are you sure? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It looks like most of the people accept only an affiliation the with [http://rockstargames.wikia.com/wiki/Rockstar_Games_Wiki Rockstar Games Wiki]. I'll wait a little more and see what we can do. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 14:57, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Yes, only Rockstar Games Wiki.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*Yes for Rockstar Games, Max Payne, Red Dead and L.A.Noire. No for the others. Manhunt Wiki is a fucking disaster and has no active admins and/or useful editors. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
**What about the Agent Wiki, Ilan? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*This Noticeboard is getting a little bit dusty, isn't? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 22:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==New Templates (Inactive staff members)==
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:XPanettaa is still trying to get unblocked, and AK-28 is attempting to advise him on how to do that - [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:787016]. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 02:54, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - six votes of 'No' and only two votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:41, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I have created template for inactive [[GTA Wiki:Staff|staff]] members, and I hope you count them as official templates
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Patroller (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Administrator (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Bureaucrat (inactive)}}
 
</pre>
 
 
-[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:59, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes (with a sprinkle of No)''' -- [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes (with a notice)''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Not Really...''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 19:27, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*I agree with adding it, but most of us just state reasons why we are inactive so the users' acquaintances won't worry on what he/she/it is inactive for. --[[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
*Nice idea Rhem. I completely agree with it. I just want to notice it that this template should be locked and only staff members can use it if they become inactive. Actually I think too that the normal templates for B'cat, admin and patroller should be locked too. BTW it is possible to lock a template? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Only admins can lock templates -- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:01, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Although the votes have all been positive so far, I think there should be at least 5 votes before closing this. If the templates are approved, I'll lock them. I, myself, think that adding a note to the talk page would get the job done, but I think it'd be best if we waited for (at least) three more votes. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I created this one a while ago: [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And no offense intended, but don't call yourself a template expert when everything you did was to change the text.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
 
**I have an idea but the original staff templates have to be unlocked --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:49, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
*@Cloud as much I love 'fuck no' votes, I'm changing it to 'No'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:38, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Can any active admin unlock staff templates, I won't vandal them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:57, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:*Why do you want them unprotected? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:00, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:**Just unlock them it's a new idea non of the wikis have tried this, for examble 
 
<pre>
 
{{​Administrator}}
 
</pre>
 
 
or
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator|active}}
 
</pre>
 
 
gives the normal Admin template 
 
 
and 
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator|inactive}}
 
</pre>
 
 
gives 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator (inactive)|inactive}}
 
</pre>
 
 
*Nope.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
 
**Why nope? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 15:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
***I already told you, check [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And it looks much better.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]] </span>''</sup>
 
 
****Your template gives the reason why the staff member is inactive, I can do that in the same template as the staff member, but the templates are still locked :( --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
****I prefer [[Template:Semi-Active|Dodo's template]]. It's cleaner and you can give your own reason why you're not on the wiki.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
****There really is no point with this inactive template proposal, as it will encourage inactivity, which is currently a problem on the wiki. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons==
 
I created this [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons|page]], and I hope you count it as an official manual of style. I know it's still not done yet, but I'm still working on it.
 
:[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
 
*Rhem, there's a problem: [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weaponry|this page]] already existed, Tony created it. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
**You decide which one to take, maybe we should have a community voting to decide which manual to take - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 20:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
***I'm not sure which to choose...they are very like, one another. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Rhem, you are obligated to import your added content that my page is lacking to my created MoS/W. [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:14, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Featured articles system==
 
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font>; 10 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 12:07, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:[http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_3#Featured_Article_section ''Previous discussion on the subject'']
 
 
So yes, I'm bringing this subject again, as it seems we have forgotten about. My one question for now is, do you want such feature on our wiki or not?
 
 
Yes, I know we need 'Manuals of Style' for several articles categories such as characters, missions, buisnesses, gangs/groups and a few more. No need for vehicles, [[User:JBanton|J]] created [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Vehicles|one]].
 
 
If you have any suggestions, post them here.
 
 
:-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 16:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:35, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:40, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 01:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 07:12, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:02, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:34, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*I think we could use those "Manuals of Style", and since GTA V is just around the corner, we could use with some guides that could help more un-experienced users (of course, the more experienced ones would follow the guides themselves, too). - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:38, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I think it would help readers if the articles for a certain discipline (i.e character, business) had a similar structure, so they can find information easily and conveniently, this is one benefit of having manuals of style. In order to help editors, having one over arching MoS that then contains links to more specific ones, [http://watch-dogs.wikia.com/wiki/Watch_Dogs_Wiki:Manual_of_Style sort of like this] (but more complete obviously) could help. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:48, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes of course, in each discipline/type this ''system'' should be followed, '''principally''' by missions. I see often the Trivia after the Video Walkthrough and etc... A order like =1. Mission, 2. Mission Objectives, 3. Reward, 4. Trivia, 5. Video W., 6. See also (References and link to detailed page of mission walkthrough) for example. And of course this Manual should be included in the Welcome Template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
:*Yeah, [[User:Tony 1998|T]] had already proposed that, I think he even created the template. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:15, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Two weeks ago I offered to help him, but he said he would do it by himself soon... Whenever that is.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
::*
 
*Also, I think next to the featured articles we should add a link to the BAWSAQ page. I could create a template to make it look like interactive (profit increses, decreases, etc.) These would be random but will look good and users will also be able to read about businesses in GTA V through the BAWSAQ page. Opinions?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Perfect idea, Mr. Financial hahahaha --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 20:06, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Good! I'll start working on the template!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
****This is how it will look:
 
[[File:Template-BAWSAQ-Beta.png|200px|center|border]]
 
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
 
*I think this wiki should have both featured articles and manual of style. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Sorry for not being around and not keeping my promises, I'm not active everyday, due to no Internet connection at my residence. For the Template:Welcome, I wrote the coding of a boarder outline on a piece of paper, which I keep on forgetting when I go to my town's public library once every week. And for the core Manual of Style; I'm working on it using paper. Once I learn to not forget my papers, I write the template coding on my Sandbox page and test it, whilist the MoS will be on here, the Community Noticeboard. [[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 23:53, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I'll start working on a manual of style for the character pages, then I'll move to the missions. Someone wanna take the business pages? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:08, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I could take a look at the business articles that we have now and maybe draft up an MoS for businesses? If we are going to have an MoS for weapons I would prefer to do that. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 07:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*You could take [[Fruit Computers in HD Universe]] asa an example for the Manual of Style, it's the most complete business page in my opinion.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*I'll take the gangs then. Just a question, should I make it only for the gangs, or the gangs AND the groups in the same MoS.?- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:51, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
**May I help for the gangs too? That's the one where I have more experience, I think.
 
***Alright, I'll start working on it tomorrow, but the [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Gangs|page]] is already created. If you could start adding info, I'd be thankful, Thomas. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 13:18, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I gave my idea for the neighborhoods' MoS, check [[User talk:Ilan xd|Ilan's talk page]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 23:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
==Thanks to the entire community==
 
 
This for once is not a voting matter, but an act of pure gratitude to the entire community. After notifying everyone of my holiday and absence the response was truly heart-warming. After reading all the comments I almost had a tear in my eye at how strong our community stands and how friendly and understanding our community is. Honestly, I don't know of an internet community that I'm as proud to be a part of as the GTA Wiki community. Thank you everyone. ''(My internet allowance is running thin now, so I'll probably be limited to one edit a week now at most :/)'' [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 19:03, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''You're welcome! '''- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:23, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Banana [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''You're welcome!''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*How's it going there, all good, JB (except for your internet connection, which I've already realized is clearly not) ? :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:25, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*No need to thank us Jonny :) Everyone is always looking out for everyone here.. thinking about it now, the GTAWiki is a rare breed :p [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Instu, I could say giggity to the breeding section of that so much! Also, have fun JB! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:30, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*We (the GTA Community) know that we are simply very greatful to good editors. You are a very nice admin and your edits here will be missing. BTW me and Instu, we will keep an eye in the users who are messing up the vehicle pages ;) --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==<span style="font-size:18px;">Warning and block templates</span>==
 
 
Now, this template idea I've come up with would benefit patrollers mostly. Lately, when such a patroller gives a user a warning most say <nowiki>''I'm going to tell a admin on you''</nowiki> etc and to me it sounds childish and not very professional but with this template, it's not only professional but it's a smart way to carry out such things. I've done a rough copy of the template seen down below. Let me know what you think down below. Cheers [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:02, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Warning===
 
 
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Warning|Template]] created with my help.</font>'''
 
 
;'''Usage Example'''
 
<nowiki>{{Warning|Violating [[GTA Wiki:Image Policy|Image Policy]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]}}</nowiki> produces:
 
{{Warning|Violating [[GTA Wiki:Image Policy|Image Policy]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]}}
 
[[Category:Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
 
</noinclude>
 
 
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
===Block===
 
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Block|Second template]] created.</font>'''
 
 
;'''Usage Example''';
 
<nowiki>{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}</nowiki> produces:
 
{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:11, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:10, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:19, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''YES''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 11:06, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 14:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:11, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*I agree, but this template should have colors like red and yellow to give it a nice look. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
**It's not meant to be nice and cute.. it's serves a purpose to tell people what right and what's wrong. BTW Thanks Dodo for helping :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:08, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
***The red color resembles warning messages, haven't you saw any stop or warning messages on the street? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Yes, but red to me seems like block. It's a warning to the user so I think yellow would fit perfectly. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:19, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Change "denying the policy" to "violation of policy". [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:13, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes I agree, but this template should be given in certain occasions. If a user (vandal) remove all the content from pages repetitively, then he should be blocked without warning. If he adds false information, messes up infobox and templates or has intolerant edits or something in this type, he should receive this template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I've changed the color of the border to yellow, and I have also replaced "denying" with "violating". I was thinking we should have a "Blocked" template too, where the vandal will be informed that he was blocked.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*I love the idea of it. Just one thing you need to change though. Instead of it saying "If you will repeat", it should just say "If you repeat". Good work though! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:21, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Done. I also added the "block" template.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*This template or both template needs section which rule did the user violated. For example this [[User:Sonicthered|user]] violated offcial policy for adding sexuall content, but he/she needs to know which rule did he/she breake.
 
for example:
 
 
<div style="border:2px solid #fddc00; padding:7px; margin-top:6px; -moz-border-radius:5px; -webkit-border-radius:5px;"><span style="color:silver">[[Image:Danger-icon.png|40x40px|right]] You have been '''warned''' for violating the '''[[GTA Wiki:Policy|policy]]'''. If you repeat your actions, you will be issued with a '''[[GTA Wiki:Blocking Policy|block]]'''.</span><br />'''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]]}}}''<br />'''Vilotaed rule:''' ''{{{2|Adding Pornographcal content}}}''<br />'''Issued by:''' {{{3|''[[User:Kingrhem]]''}}}</div>
 
 
 
**'''THAT IS THE POINT OF "GIVEN REASON"''''. And try to correct your grammar mistakes, there are plenty.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*** Agreeing with Dodo, what ''is'' the point of adding that when it's already stated on the top line? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:26, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****You can drop that point but the full reason should be given. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 10:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Yeah, the reason is given in the '''Given reason''' section.. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****It should be full, like this:
 
::::::: '''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]] by adding sexuall content}}}''. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] 11:10, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::*That was just an example, that's how it was supposed to look from the start. You started an useless topic, Kingrhem. And it's "sexual", not "sexuall". See the [[User:Rockfan555|warning]] I left to this user who violated the policy.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
:::::::**Look, if I wrote words with wrong grammar, that because of either being haungry, sleepy or have to hurry up, at the time I had all three reasons. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:27, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Nice, both templates. I just think there should be a different template exclusive for image policy, because it's a different case where most of new users still not understanding. If he violates the image policy, he should receive the image policy template, if repeated, the warning template. Actually I think that new users will feel a little afraid if they are threatened with a block because of image policy. BTW could you guys check my new gallery? :D --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 12:28, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Thomas, that's what the warning template is for.. ;) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:16, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I agree with the idea. But the argument above was rather silly... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:55, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*It was not silly because image policy is an error that every new user does at the begin. This happens more than two or three times and it would be a little bit rude if we block someone for such a thing without a right and clear information. We are encouraging users to continue editing, and not block them directly for things they don't know. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:11, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::*First of, Thomas, bullet your comments. Secondly, I think you are a bit confuse: "argument" in english also means "zanga, discussão" in portuguese, whereas "argumento" in portuguese means "point" (as in "That's a good point"). I'm not talking about what you said, OK. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::*Understood. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:33, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::*Boa. :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Media Policy: A New-Look Image Policy Edit

This has been lingering around the wiki for a few days. A policy about uploading videos to the wiki has been suggested by Andre. My idea;

We add info to the image policy about uploading videos and rename it the Media Policy. It will be in one location for users to understand how to add both images and videos here.

  • ALL videos must have a clear picture and clean audio.
  • All videos must be copyrighted to show who the video belongs to, the video's site and Rockstar Games.
    • All videos have to be GTA related.
  • Videos MUST NOT violate other policies such as leaked information.
  • Videos must have an extra copyright if it features music.

Feel free to add to the policy and vote on whether or not we should implement this. Leo68 (talk) 09:02, March 1, 2015 (UTC)


Votes Edit

Comments Edit

  • Absolutely, i've seen quite a few pages with videos which contravene these rules. MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk)
  • I would add that videos should not contain any form of self-promotion (audio or text) or advertising apart from a watermark (we obviously have to allow this since we are using GTASeriesVideos we can't really say it is prohibited like we do for still images). smurfy (coms) 21:12, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Missions in GTA 2Edit

I was just writing this to let you guys know who want to get some edits that most of the missions in GTA 2 still need infoboxes and images. To get the images, watch GTA Series Videos play the mission on Youtube, print screen it while it is saying the mission name and then crop it in an editing application such as Paint.NET. I'm currently doing it as well but I'm going to have to continue tomorrow as I am going shortly.

Also, the missions in GTA 1 are pretty much a lost cause because I can't find videos of the missions anywhere to get images or even an understanding of what happens in the mission. If anyone can do either of these things then that would be great.

Thanks, LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 23:55, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Patroller to Administrator Qualification CriteriaEdit

Closed as unsuccessful - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 23:55, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

BackgroundEdit

A week ago, Leo made an update to the RfP rules to add the probation period for new Patrollers as had been agreed by the Bureaucrats and Admins. At the same time he also changed the line relating to experience required for applicants to the Administrator role.

"To qualify for administrator rights, editors must have been active for four months with no rules violations."
— Prior version
"To qualify for administrator rights, editors must have been active patrollers for four months with no rule violations."
— Revised version

This was probably an outcome of a discussion Tom had been involved in with with Wildbrick142 about that section but he had stated

"I think you would be best if you ran for Patroller first just to make it "fair" so that you get promoted in the same way as everyone else and then a month or two later you could run for admin."
— Tom replying to Wildbrick142

As I discussed with Leo at the time, I probably agree with the change (despite it directly impacting my personal agenda), but I don't believe it was an authorized rule update and it should be discussed and agreed by Admin/Bureaucrat staff before being added. Similarly to the Probation discussion, Patrollers and editors should not get a say in this discussion as we would have a vested interest in retaining the status quo. smurfy (coms) 01:43, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Bureaucrat and Admin only voteEdit

VotesEdit

Discussion (all editors welcome) Edit

  • I don't want to just say "if you've been blocked you can never be promoted" because it's not necessary. We've had multiple editors who got blocked, realized that this wasn't one of those online communities that doesn't actually enforce its rules, cleaned up their act and went on to be administrators. If there are outstanding behavior concerns about any editor running for promotion, those concerns should be brought up during the voting - that's what the vote is for in the first place, and that's why it's supposed to last for a week. As for length of time an editor has to be editing to be eligible to promote, I don't have much of a problem with such a thing but I don't really think it's necessary. Lack of being active long enough is always brought up when new editors go for a promotion too soon, and we've also had a couple particularly good editors show up and get promoted more quickly than usual. Basically, I feel it's better to consider every editor individually rather than try to make ironclad rules, because ironclad rules tend to do more harm than good in the long run. Jeff (talk·stalk) 02:25, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • After reading what McJeff said, I'm on his side. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 02:32, January 28, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Since Jeff is happy to include all editors in the discussion (but not the vote), I would suggest Leo's edit requires a minor semantic change: To qualify for administrator rights, patrollers must have been active for four months with no rule violations. smurfy (coms) 03:02, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree about keeping the "four months as a patroller to become an admin" rule. Experience should be an important aspect to be promoted, and I was never a fan of promoting people who are in the wikia for one or two months just because their edits are good, It makes the promotion seems way too easy and insignificant. Making it take longer not just makes the person who wants to get the promotion work harder, but also make him valorize the position more when he finally get it, with also reduces the chances of him resigning too soom. DLVIIIL Talk 03:19, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • To reitirate. I made an alteration to the admin area as it said Users must have been active for four months. I figured, being a first time users never usually make admin first, they have to become patrollers. I changed the word users to patrollers. I figured it would make more sense. I changed this when I added the information about probationary periods for patrollers to the Requests for Promotion page. If people were confused, tell me, and then if it made more sense then I could have changed it back. I don't think users should be allowed to skip Patroller and make admin. It just can't justified. I also believe we don't need to change anything about administrator rights. I voted no. Leo68 (talk) 04:37, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Man, I really must not have been as clear in the way I had written this out as I thought I was.
    • I'm not suggesting I thought the rule wording meant editors could skip the Patroller step, although that was a little ambiguous and probably needed clarifying, as shown by the question Wildbrick posed to Tom. 
Prior to Leo's edit, the way the rule was written and the way I understood it, any Patroller with a total of 4 months editing could have applied for Admin. (e.g. 2 months as editor to qualify for patroller, 2 months as patroller to qualify for admin). After the edit, that was now a total of 6 months "minimum" (e.g. 2 months as editor to qualify for patroller, 4 months as patroller to qualify for admin). That was what the change meant to the rule to me. 
The vote here was: Should Patrollers now be required to serve a minimum of 4 months as a Patroller to qualify to apply for an Administrator position? not whether Admin positions should be open to non-patrollers. smurfy (coms) 05:12, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I don't think that there should be a prohibition of not getting promoted if an editor was blocked. Some people who have previously been blocked, learn from their mistakes and work hard to qualify for a staff position. Hence in my opinion their should not be a rule like "If you ever got blocked, you can never be promoted".Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 15:14, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • What everyone said. Signature (talk) 15:17, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Jeff is right. Proof here and here. Rain (Stalker) 15:25, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • A vote within six monthss is justifiable. We're not going to promote someone who was recently banned, but we're not going to deny previously banned users from applying for promotion. Leo68 (talk) 15:27, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree with Leo. The applying person should not be banned in last 4 or 6 months.Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 15:33, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree with Jeff. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 15:44, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree with Jeff too. Promotions should be considered on an individual basis, as some new users hit the ground running whilst others get into the swing of it gradually. When it comes to patrollers becoming admins, however, I think there should be a minimum amount of time, as the step up is a big one and some sink and others swim. With regards to welcoming back banned members, I think there should also be a minimum amount of time (four months to become patrollers, six to become admins) before they can apply for staff positions as that allows the rest of us to see if they've learnt their lessons. For users like Sasquatch, it's too early for him to be considered again as he's very inactive and we're having to remind him how to behave. I think returning users deserve second chances, but they must be earnt. SJWalker (talk) 15:58, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotions require special examinations of the users. I agree with Leo. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 00:19, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

XPanetta Edit

Heads up to all the users, XPanetta is going onto other wikis to convince users to un-block him now that Ilan is gone. Ignore him, if the harassment continues, report him to an admin, or if you can block him from the wiki like I have. See the latest log on The Bill Wikia, where I am a Bureaucrat (he has been blocked from said wiki). The first notice was in September, and the most recent was today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leon Davis (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Thanks for the warning Leo. Considering Tom was one of the ones harrassed by X I can't see him unblocking X any time soon, but we'll all keep our eyes open for him. I think eventually Wikia will do an IP block on him if he continues his harrassment and gets blocked from wikis one by one. SJWalker (talk) 16:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I blocked him a month ago on another Wiki for harassing Smashbro. Ever since he got blocked he has so far only cross-wiki harrassed administrators to get unblocked. I'm thinking about filling a report to Wikia against him. I could read once that harrassment can lead to your account being globally blocked. Rain (Stalker) 17:17, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I'd file a report if I were you Rain. There's enough evidence of harrassment and he even helps us by listing what he was blocked for. SJWalker (talk) 17:41, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think our admin cleanout has been that drastic that trolls like this will get away with asking to have well-deserved infinite blocks overturned. His current harrassing and pleading and demanding is no different to what he has been doing constantly since he was first warned here, let alone after his block(s). Wikia staff have told him point blank he deserved the block and he should pull his head in, but he hasn't given up. Eventually I think he will get a global Wikia block. In the mean time, I do feel sorry for those of you who have your other wikia activity advertised in your profiles which makes you potential targets for him. smurfy (coms) 07:50, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

He messaged me on my talk page on wikianswers. I reverted the edit stating that I do not wish to discuss GTA Wiki on another wiki. If he continues such harrassment I will block him there. Messi1983 (talk) 11:33, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

ReportEdit

As I am busy today coupled with what appear to be internet problems (pages that take time to load and etc.), I'm putting here all evidence I could gather regarding XPanettaa harrassing others. If anyone can report him, they must do this through this. One should provide evidence of it as I doubt Wikia staff would deal with someone without proof. If anyone has more evidence of it, post it below.

Evidence:

I'll reply to any questions about it on my talk page. Rain (Stalker) 14:19, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

He knows some of us are admins/bureaucrats of other wikis, he will be harrising us as soon as he knows which wiki we run, he has been in multiple wikis, such as the Midnight Club wiki, the Bill wiki, the Watch Dogs wiki, the Red Dead wiki, the Mafia wiki, he didn't attempt to visit my Scarface wiki yet, but i'll not even answer him, he'll be automatically blocked, he and Sean are a pain in the ass. Signature (talk) 15:41, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

UpdateEdit

Report filed. I have sent a report including the evidence to Wikia, and received an email back saying they will look into the evidence and get back to me within two days if necessary. SJWalker (talk) 15:26, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

I have received an email from the Wiki moderators. Here is the email in full: "Hello, Thanks for contacting us, and apologies for the slow response. I have communicated to XPanettaa that his actions are not reasonable, and that he should desist in his pestering about the block. Hopefully this will have a positive effect. With regards the other user, they do currently have a Wikia-wide block against those accounts - so you shouldn't be continuing to have issues with them. Has there been any recent activity around that? (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:741274#38appears to come a little out of the blue, the previous response being in November). Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and best regards, George Marbulcanti (Kirkburn) Wikia Community Support" SJWalker (talk)

XPanettaa is still trying to get unblocked, and AK-28 is attempting to advise him on how to do that - [1]. Jeff (talk·stalk) 02:54, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

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