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==Infobox problems==
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That info box is ridiculously inaccurate.We don't '''need or know''' Johnny's parents.Needless.The Hexer isn't driven by him.He highjacks alotta cars not just that one.And it's a motorcycle.Unneeded.And since when do we use info boxes in character descriptions. Useless. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 00:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 
That info box is ridiculously inaccurate.We don't '''need or know''' Johnny's parents.Needless.The Hexer isn't driven by him.He highjacks alotta cars not just that one.And it's a motorcycle.Unneeded.And since when do we use info boxes in character descriptions. Useless. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 00:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
   
And there's no proof his name is Jonathon. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 00:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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:And there's no proof his name is Jonathon. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 00:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
   
Can't we just call him Johnny? do we REALLY need Jonathon in here?
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:::Can't we just call him Johnny? do we REALLY need Jonathon in here? {{Unsigned|Gtafan310}}
   
I agree. I don't know who put that, but they either must be new to the site or hasn't read any other character pages.
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::I agree. I don't know who put that, but they either must be new to the site or hasn't read any other character pages. --[[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]] 00:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]] 00:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 
   
Yeah a lot or info on this site is messed up considering a lot of people who haven't even really played GTA4 keep trying to post what's "correct" even though it wasn't stated nor answered. Someone actually put Johnny was working for the Ancelotti and ran away with the diamonds but he actually took the money. - [[User:FearTheLivingDFG|FearTheLivingDFG]]
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:::Yeah a lot or info on this site is messed up considering a lot of people who haven't even really played GTA4 keep trying to post what's "correct" even though it wasn't stated nor answered. Someone actually put Johnny was working for the Ancelotti and ran away with the diamonds but he actually took the money. - [[User:FearTheLivingDFG|FearTheLivingDFG]]
   
Yeah, lets remove the info box, and if anyone puts it back on, just take it off again. They have to get tired of it sooner or later.-[[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]]
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::::Yeah, lets remove the info box, and if anyone puts it back on, just take it off again. They have to get tired of it sooner or later.-[[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]]
   
This is very unneeded,indeed.There's absolutely no proof whatsoever that his name is Johnathon.And the cars thing makes me even madder.The Hexer isn't a car and since he's a high jacker,he drives a wide arrangement of cars. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 23:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::This is very unneeded,indeed.There's absolutely no proof whatsoever that his name is Johnathon.And the cars thing makes me even madder.The Hexer isn't a car and since he's a high jacker,he drives a wide arrangement of cars. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 23:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
   
Wait I say we edit it up, and make it actually accurate, because now those info boxes are all across the site. Agreed?- [[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]]
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::::::Wait I say we edit it up, and make it actually accurate, because now those info boxes are all across the site. Agreed?- [[User:SABOTAGE99|SABOTAGE99]]
   
:I have re-added the infobox, which gives useful information to users unfamiliar with the character. The infobox is especially important at this time, as Klebitz will be the protagonist of the first episode of downloadable content. The infoboxes have been added/will be added to major characters in the series to show basic information quickly. Also, if information in the infobox is incorrect, just make an edit to change the information, not just remove it. Thank you. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 01:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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(undent) I have re-added the infobox, which gives useful information to users unfamiliar with the character. The infobox is especially important at this time, as Klebitz will be the protagonist of the first episode of downloadable content. The infoboxes have been added/will be added to major characters in the series to show basic information quickly. Also, if information in the infobox is incorrect, just make an edit to change the information, not just remove it. Thank you. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 01:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
   
There's no proof his name is Johnathon and there's no proof he only drives a Hexer which '''ISN'T A CAR!!'''Because,he is a highjacker.Basically,it's all unneeded.We barely no about any characters Parents so that's retarded to keep.Who ever added that must've been a new user who hasn't seen a character page before.If we are going to write like that,ridiculous info will be posted more often and we'll see idiotic false information.Example:Favourite Activity: Taking a crap.Why would we need stuff like that,and admins like you,should know that.Are we going to put information like that on pages like Niko Bellic.Hmm? Cars: [[Dukes (car)|Dukes]], [[Roman's Taxi]], [[Cabbie]], [[Taxi]], [[Washington]], [[NRG 900]], [[Feltzer]], [[Turismo]], [[Comet]], [[PMP 600]], [[Ambulance]], [[Bus]], [[Annihilator]], [[Cognoscenti]], [[PCJ-600]], [[Patriot]], [[Oracle]], [[Infernus]], and [[Super GT]]. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 01:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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:There's no proof his name is Johnathon and there's no proof he only drives a Hexer which '''ISN'T A CAR!!'''Because,he is a highjacker.Basically,it's all unneeded.We barely no about any characters Parents so that's retarded to keep.Who ever added that must've been a new user who hasn't seen a character page before.If we are going to write like that,ridiculous info will be posted more often and we'll see idiotic false information.Example:Favourite Activity: Taking a crap.Why would we need stuff like that,and admins like you,should know that.Are we going to put information like that on pages like Niko Bellic.Hmm? Cars: [[Dukes (car)|Dukes]], [[Roman's Taxi]], [[Cabbie]], [[Taxi]], [[Washington]], [[NRG 900]], [[Feltzer]], [[Turismo]], [[Comet]], [[PMP 600]], [[Ambulance]], [[Bus]], [[Annihilator]], [[Cognoscenti]], [[PCJ-600]], [[Patriot]], [[Oracle]], [[Infernus]], and [[Super GT]]. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 01:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
   
:If you had taken the time to look at the infobox, I changed the full name to Johnny Klebitz and the vehicles/cars section to ''Various''. Also, the infobox requires information to be included every two things (so you can not have two lines without any information), otherwise gaps appear in the infobox. As for the ridiculous info bit, nothing more is needed for the infobox, as this can be simply explained. The infobox should stay, and that will require information about his parents and children (even if they are just ''Unknown'' and ''N/A), simply to make the infobox look decent - i.e. without gaps. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 01:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)''
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::If you had taken the time to look at the infobox, I changed the full name to Johnny Klebitz and the vehicles/cars section to ''Various''. Also, the infobox requires information to be included every two things (so you can not have two lines without any information), otherwise gaps appear in the infobox. As for the ridiculous info bit, nothing more is needed for the infobox, as this can be simply explained. The infobox should stay, and that will require information about his parents and children (even if they are just ''Unknown'' and ''N/A), simply to make the infobox look decent - i.e. without gaps. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 01:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)''
   
Yes,but we haven't the time to put all such information into all character pages. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 01:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::Yes,but we haven't the time to put all such information into all character pages. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 01:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
   
 
== Johnny Klebitz as Pedestrian. ==
 
== Johnny Klebitz as Pedestrian. ==
This was clearly done by someone who aborted the mission at the museum, please don't spread your youtube myths around here.-[[User:NG3]]
 
   
 
I think I found Johnny as a pedestrian on the streets of [[Algonquin]] in [[Grand Theft Auto IV]],I killed him to get a closer and it looked an awfull lot like him,he even wore [[The Lost Brotherhood]] jacket!,and then I found this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KlvGAw-eVw of Klebitz] on Youtube.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]
 
I think I found Johnny as a pedestrian on the streets of [[Algonquin]] in [[Grand Theft Auto IV]],I killed him to get a closer and it looked an awfull lot like him,he even wore [[The Lost Brotherhood]] jacket!,and then I found this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KlvGAw-eVw of Klebitz] on Youtube.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]
   
 
:This was clearly done by someone who aborted the mission at the museum, please don't spread your youtube myths around here.-[[User:NG3]]
Me too i think i also saw johnny as a pedestrian in gta IV. He actually sounded like himself. I was going to make him talk to me but he ran away and also killed me while running.
 
   
 
::Me too i think i also saw johnny as a pedestrian in gta IV. He actually sounded like himself. I was going to make him talk to me but he ran away and also killed me while running. {{unsigned|Gravyv321}}
== More proof of Luis' involvement with the Impossible Trinity!!! ==
 
 
"jonesoda" a member of a {neoseeker.com forum) discussing the 'Impossible Trinity' has added another clue, and for me confirmed the notion, that Luis will indeed be the third and final (main) character of the GTAIV installment in the second DLC.
 
 
He states: "I have even more evidence Luis Lopez could be the next character because today I was on the GTA IV police files and the only people out of like 20 with a charge of grand theft auto where Johnny, Niko, and Luis. So i'm not sure but to me that seems like even more evidence"
 
 
To me, it IS the final piece of evidence. Also interesting to mention, "DRzCalderon" of (gtagaming.com forums) made some mission predictions for Luis:
 
 
* Well, the first time we see luis Lopez is when he's on the floor during the '' three Leaf Clover ''mission. the way this mission is going to go in luis's perspective is when niko and the MCcreary brothers are busy shouting at the clerks to open the door and when niko is robbing the safe, there is extra conversation going on when luis is on the ground. And when niko and the others flee the bank, I assume he attends to take some money leftover in the safe because of niko saying '' I didn't get all of it '' causing this to be a possible chase scene for luis. And the reason why he was at the bank in the first place was because he may have also had an intention to rob the bank as well.
 
 
* Now During the '' Museum Piece '' mission, we see luis shoot at a couple of guys during the deal, killing them instantly. But doesn't kill johnny ( obviously ) and that other guy with the beard and hat. so during this mission in luis's perspective, the player would have to go after that guy with the hat due to him picking up the diamonds right before fleeing the scene and johnny fleeing with the suitcase. And in gameplay, you would have to chase the guy with the hat and confront him to attain the diamonds. Not to mention the fact that Luis ends up with the diamonds in the game when making the exchange for Ancelotti's daughter.
 
 
* Last but not least, During his last appereance in the game, when your doing '' Diamonds is a Women's Best Friend '' mission, right after niko is attacked by Bulgarin's henchmen, Luis with Ancelotti and his daughter flee the scene instantly as well as Bulgarin. So this brings the assumption of there being a chase scene during this mission. so the player would most likely be fleeing in a car chase from bulgarin. It could be that in gameplay the protogonist will be driving to flee from him or would be shooting at him during the car chase.
 
 
Do they ever have like a, caucasian, american/Canadian born character as the protagonist? What I mean is American or Canadian born.--[[User:Canadian Reject|Canadian Reject]] 23:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 
 
I believe Johnny Klebitz was born in America, please someone correct me if i'm wrong ([[User:Stebner603|Stebner603]] 01:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC))
 
 
to me johnny shouldn't have stole the money from the deal because if he did do it and give half the money to ray jim would be here and he wouldn't be on the run from him.
 
 
iam pretty sure that claude and tommy and toni are caucasian american
 
 
Claude maybe, but Tommy VERCETTI and Toni CIPRIANI have at least italian-american ancestors.
 
 
Italians aren't caucasian?
 
   
 
==Picture==
 
==Picture==
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I think the Johnny Klebitz picture on the Johnny Klebitz picture needs to be changed. Mainly because it is a small picture. Suggestions?. [[User:Gsf4l|GSF4L]] 23:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 
I think the Johnny Klebitz picture on the Johnny Klebitz picture needs to be changed. Mainly because it is a small picture. Suggestions?. [[User:Gsf4l|GSF4L]] 23:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
   
 
==Army==
   
 
==Army==
 
 
Did Johnny served in U.S.Army? There are many dialogues about the army in game, but I'm not sure, that Johnny was in army. Anyone know it for certain? [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 23:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
Did Johnny served in U.S.Army? There are many dialogues about the army in game, but I'm not sure, that Johnny was in army. Anyone know it for certain? [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 23:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
   
Its Jim that served in the army, not Johnny. Also Johnny's brother is in the military.
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:Its Jim that served in the army, not Johnny. Also Johnny's brother is in the military. {{Unsigned|MEffect Fan}}
   
I know, man, those facts don't sxplode each other. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 23:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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::I know, man, those facts don't sxplode each other. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 23:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
   
: I don't know how people came up with the idea that Johnny served in the Army. That would have been entirely against his outlaw values, working for the 'man' instead of shoving it to him by his outlaw lifestyle. It's his brother Micheal who is serving with the Army. Jim served with the Marines, something he gets quite defensive about when Clay mentions it to him. [[User:Enigma24|Enigma24]] ([[User talk:Enigma24|talk]]) 21:57, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I don't know how people came up with the idea that Johnny served in the Army. That would have been entirely against his outlaw values, working for the 'man' instead of shoving it to him by his outlaw lifestyle. It's his brother Micheal who is serving with the Army. Jim served with the Marines, something he gets quite defensive about when Clay mentions it to him. [[User:Enigma24|Enigma24]] ([[User talk:Enigma24|talk]]) 21:57, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
: If I recall correctly, Clay himself fought in the Vietnam war, yet he nags Jim about being a Marine. <b>[[User:Bogdan stretePS3|<span style="color:cyan; font-weight:bold; font-family:Georgia">Bogdan stretePS3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Bogdan stretePS3| <span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:tahoma">'''Koldoom'''</span>]]</sup></b> 22:40, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
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::::If I recall correctly, Clay himself fought in the Vietnam war, yet he nags Jim about being a Marine. <b>[[User:Bogdan stretePS3|<span style="color:cyan; font-weight:bold; font-family:Georgia">Bogdan stretePS3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Bogdan stretePS3| <span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:tahoma">'''Koldoom'''</span>]]</sup></b> 22:40, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
 
== Change in Appearance ==
 
== Change in Appearance ==
   
 
Man, I played the original GTA IV and Johnny looks so different. I never noticed it. We need to add a picture of his before appearance to show how drastic he's changed.--[[User:FawkesGamer360|FawkesGamer360]] 19:36, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
Man, I played the original GTA IV and Johnny looks so different. I never noticed it. We need to add a picture of his before appearance to show how drastic he's changed.--[[User:FawkesGamer360|FawkesGamer360]] 19:36, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
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He does look very different but he still has the same face and wears the same greyish jeans.
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:He does look very different but he still has the same face and wears the same greyish jeans. {{Unsigned|Slipknot15}}
   
 
==Johnny's limp==
 
==Johnny's limp==
When does anyone say anything about Johnny having been in a motorcycle accident before the game? Also, I'm pretty sure his nose isn't broken,its just crooked.
 
   
 
When does anyone say anything about Johnny having been in a motorcycle accident before the game? Also, I'm pretty sure his nose isn't broken,its just crooked. {{Unsigned|A-1}}
I don't remember hearing anyone talking about it, plus I never actually see him walk with a limp. He does walk slower, but with no limp. [[User:Hisame1311|Hisame1311]] ([[User talk:Hisame1311|talk]]) 21:25, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
:I don't remember hearing anyone talking about it, plus I never actually see him walk with a limp. He does walk slower, but with no limp. [[User:Hisame1311|Hisame1311]] ([[User talk:Hisame1311|talk]]) 21:25, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
: No, Johnny doesn't walk with a limp in-game but that doesn't mean he wasn't in a motorcycle accident. He could have simply recovered without a limp, but he does walk slower which could explain some damage to his legs. It could just be muscle damage which would explain why he tires quicker than other protagonists when running long distances. Well the fact that Johnny's nose is crooked is evidence that it was broken at one stage and didn't heal properly, think about it. [[User:Enigma24|Enigma24]] ([[User talk:Enigma24|talk]]) 21:55, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
::No, Johnny doesn't walk with a limp in-game but that doesn't mean he wasn't in a motorcycle accident. He could have simply recovered without a limp, but he does walk slower which could explain some damage to his legs. It could just be muscle damage which would explain why he tires quicker than other protagonists when running long distances. Well the fact that Johnny's nose is crooked is evidence that it was broken at one stage and didn't heal properly, think about it. [[User:Enigma24|Enigma24]] ([[User talk:Enigma24|talk]]) 21:55, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
:: He doesn't hobble in pain, it just look like he's walking on a leg that, at some point, broke and didn't heal right. Along with that, the crooked nose, and the facial scars, it's easy to see why people would say that he's had a few accidents. Hell, if you crash into things on a bike, Johnny will even say stuff like "not this again" "I thought I got better" etc. So maybe at some point Johnny was a really shite driver?
 
::Of course, who's to say all of the damage didn't just come from a gang war and some deadbeat cracking him in the face with a baseball bat. [[User:HebbyDGouchemen|<font color="purple">HebbyDGouchemen</font>]] [[User_talk:HebbyDGouchemen|('''talk here''')]] 23:41, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
:::He doesn't hobble in pain, it just look like he's walking on a leg that, at some point, broke and didn't heal right. Along with that, the crooked nose, and the facial scars, it's easy to see why people would say that he's had a few accidents. Hell, if you crash into things on a bike, Johnny will even say stuff like "not this again" "I thought I got better" etc. So maybe at some point Johnny was a really shite driver?
== Trivia AK74 ==
 
 
:::Of course, who's to say all of the damage didn't just come from a gang war and some deadbeat cracking him in the face with a baseball bat. [[User:HebbyDGouchemen|<font color="purple">HebbyDGouchemen</font>]] [[User_talk:HebbyDGouchemen|('''talk here''')]] 23:41, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
 
== i fixed it ==
That's not an AK74, it's an AK47 with stock detached
 
   
 
the page was f*** up so i fix --<font color="red"> '''[[User:Coool31|ᄃӨӨӨᄂ31]]'''</font> ҂ <small><small>[[User talk:Coool31|Talk to the asperger syndrome atheist ]]</small></small> 23:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
== i fixed it ==
 
the page was f*** up so i fix --<font color="red"> '''[[User:Coool31|ᄃӨӨӨᄂ31]]</font>''' ҂ <small><small>[[User talk:Coool31|Talk to the asperger syndrome atheist ]]</small></small> 23:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
 
== About AKS-74U / AK-47 ==
 
== About AKS-74U / AK-47 ==
   
I'm not so sure it's an AKS-74U or AK-47 with the stock detached, it looks a bit like a normal AK-47 but the stock is blocked from view by Johnny's arm. I haven't played much of GTA IV though, so I don't really know how the proportions would hold up. Compared to a real-life AK-47 it seems plausible if Johnny has big arms or wide sleeves.
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I'm not so sure it's an AKS-74U or AK-47 with the stock detached, it looks a bit like a normal AK-47 but the stock is blocked from view by Johnny's arm. I haven't played much of GTA IV though, so I don't really know how the proportions would hold up. Compared to a real-life AK-47 it seems plausible if Johnny has big arms or wide sleeves. [[User:Noblaum|Noblaum]] ([[User talk:Noblaum|talk]]) 19:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
   
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Added "Klebitz The Heeb" to his known names, because Billy calls him that at one point, I believe it was in Clean In Serene, or somewhere early game. -aarondude5 11:15 P.M. 8/11/14 AUGUST 11th
[[User:Noblaum|Noblaum]] ([[User talk:Noblaum|talk]]) 19:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)Noblaum
 

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Infobox problems

That info box is ridiculously inaccurate.We don't need or know Johnny's parents.Needless.The Hexer isn't driven by him.He highjacks alotta cars not just that one.And it's a motorcycle.Unneeded.And since when do we use info boxes in character descriptions. Useless. HuangLee 00:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

And there's no proof his name is Jonathon. HuangLee 00:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Can't we just call him Johnny? do we REALLY need Jonathon in here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtafan310 (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.
I agree. I don't know who put that, but they either must be new to the site or hasn't read any other character pages. --SABOTAGE99 00:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah a lot or info on this site is messed up considering a lot of people who haven't even really played GTA4 keep trying to post what's "correct" even though it wasn't stated nor answered. Someone actually put Johnny was working for the Ancelotti and ran away with the diamonds but he actually took the money. - FearTheLivingDFG
Yeah, lets remove the info box, and if anyone puts it back on, just take it off again. They have to get tired of it sooner or later.-SABOTAGE99
This is very unneeded,indeed.There's absolutely no proof whatsoever that his name is Johnathon.And the cars thing makes me even madder.The Hexer isn't a car and since he's a high jacker,he drives a wide arrangement of cars. HuangLee 23:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Wait I say we edit it up, and make it actually accurate, because now those info boxes are all across the site. Agreed?- SABOTAGE99

(undent) I have re-added the infobox, which gives useful information to users unfamiliar with the character. The infobox is especially important at this time, as Klebitz will be the protagonist of the first episode of downloadable content. The infoboxes have been added/will be added to major characters in the series to show basic information quickly. Also, if information in the infobox is incorrect, just make an edit to change the information, not just remove it. Thank you. A-Dust 01:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

There's no proof his name is Johnathon and there's no proof he only drives a Hexer which ISN'T A CAR!!Because,he is a highjacker.Basically,it's all unneeded.We barely no about any characters Parents so that's retarded to keep.Who ever added that must've been a new user who hasn't seen a character page before.If we are going to write like that,ridiculous info will be posted more often and we'll see idiotic false information.Example:Favourite Activity: Taking a crap.Why would we need stuff like that,and admins like you,should know that.Are we going to put information like that on pages like Niko Bellic.Hmm? Cars: Dukes, Roman's Taxi, Cabbie, Taxi, Washington, NRG 900, Feltzer, Turismo, Comet, PMP 600, Ambulance, Bus, Annihilator, Cognoscenti, PCJ-600, Patriot, Oracle, Infernus, and Super GT. HuangLee 01:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
If you had taken the time to look at the infobox, I changed the full name to Johnny Klebitz and the vehicles/cars section to Various. Also, the infobox requires information to be included every two things (so you can not have two lines without any information), otherwise gaps appear in the infobox. As for the ridiculous info bit, nothing more is needed for the infobox, as this can be simply explained. The infobox should stay, and that will require information about his parents and children (even if they are just Unknown and N/A), simply to make the infobox look decent - i.e. without gaps. A-Dust 01:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes,but we haven't the time to put all such information into all character pages. HuangLee 01:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Klebitz as Pedestrian.

I think I found Johnny as a pedestrian on the streets of Algonquin in Grand Theft Auto IV,I killed him to get a closer and it looked an awfull lot like him,he even wore The Lost Brotherhood jacket!,and then I found this video of Klebitz on Youtube.-User:BloodyGTA

This was clearly done by someone who aborted the mission at the museum, please don't spread your youtube myths around here.-User:NG3
Me too i think i also saw johnny as a pedestrian in gta IV. He actually sounded like himself. I was going to make him talk to me but he ran away and also killed me while running. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gravyv321 (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Picture

I think the Johnny Klebitz picture on the Johnny Klebitz picture needs to be changed. Mainly because it is a small picture. Suggestions?. GSF4L 23:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Army

Did Johnny served in U.S.Army? There are many dialogues about the army in game, but I'm not sure, that Johnny was in army. Anyone know it for certain? Orto Dogge 23:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Its Jim that served in the army, not Johnny. Also Johnny's brother is in the military. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MEffect Fan (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.
I know, man, those facts don't sxplode each other. Orto Dogge 23:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how people came up with the idea that Johnny served in the Army. That would have been entirely against his outlaw values, working for the 'man' instead of shoving it to him by his outlaw lifestyle. It's his brother Micheal who is serving with the Army. Jim served with the Marines, something he gets quite defensive about when Clay mentions it to him. Enigma24 (talk) 21:57, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, Clay himself fought in the Vietnam war, yet he nags Jim about being a Marine. Bogdan stretePS3 Koldoom 22:40, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Change in Appearance

Man, I played the original GTA IV and Johnny looks so different. I never noticed it. We need to add a picture of his before appearance to show how drastic he's changed.--FawkesGamer360 19:36, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

He does look very different but he still has the same face and wears the same greyish jeans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slipknot15 (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Johnny's limp

When does anyone say anything about Johnny having been in a motorcycle accident before the game? Also, I'm pretty sure his nose isn't broken,its just crooked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A-1 (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

I don't remember hearing anyone talking about it, plus I never actually see him walk with a limp. He does walk slower, but with no limp. Hisame1311 (talk) 21:25, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
No, Johnny doesn't walk with a limp in-game but that doesn't mean he wasn't in a motorcycle accident. He could have simply recovered without a limp, but he does walk slower which could explain some damage to his legs. It could just be muscle damage which would explain why he tires quicker than other protagonists when running long distances. Well the fact that Johnny's nose is crooked is evidence that it was broken at one stage and didn't heal properly, think about it. Enigma24 (talk) 21:55, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
He doesn't hobble in pain, it just look like he's walking on a leg that, at some point, broke and didn't heal right. Along with that, the crooked nose, and the facial scars, it's easy to see why people would say that he's had a few accidents. Hell, if you crash into things on a bike, Johnny will even say stuff like "not this again" "I thought I got better" etc. So maybe at some point Johnny was a really shite driver?
Of course, who's to say all of the damage didn't just come from a gang war and some deadbeat cracking him in the face with a baseball bat. HebbyDGouchemen (talk here) 23:41, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

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About AKS-74U / AK-47

I'm not so sure it's an AKS-74U or AK-47 with the stock detached, it looks a bit like a normal AK-47 but the stock is blocked from view by Johnny's arm. I haven't played much of GTA IV though, so I don't really know how the proportions would hold up. Compared to a real-life AK-47 it seems plausible if Johnny has big arms or wide sleeves. Noblaum (talk) 19:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Added "Klebitz The Heeb" to his known names, because Billy calls him that at one point, I believe it was in Clean In Serene, or somewhere early game. -aarondude5 11:15 P.M. 8/11/14 AUGUST 11th