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Leon Davis

aka Leo

Chat Moderator
1,380 Edits since joining this wiki
May 4, 2013
  • I live in Canada
  • I was born on November 11
  • I am Male


Hi, welcome to GTA Wiki. Thanks for contributing to the Declasse SUV page, and for taking interest in the wiki. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything, or as alternatives, leave a post on a forum, or refer to the Help pages. LS11sVaultBoy (talk) 19:44, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


If you want to upload images on this wiki, you must follow our image policy. Your images have been deleted. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 07:05, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you remove the police van photo..

James1579 (talk) 18:44, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

DLC Vehicles

Hey Leon Davis. I'm gonna give you a chance to make a DLC page for GTA IV's vehicles. That way, it'll be fair to keep the DLC Vehicles in GTA V page. I removed the deletion template and categories for now, but they'll be added back if you don't make a page like that for GTA IV. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 23:47, May 18, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8.

Vehicles in GTA IV now added. Leon Davis (talk) 07:05, May 19, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Leon Davis. I noticed the Extra Terrestrial Detector page you created, and I will say I appreciate the fact that you put the page to be a stub as well as add the "Images Needed" category. However, there's only one problem. You wrote the stub part, however, to shorten all of that work you can simply add Images (plus {{ }} surrounding it) to add the stub template and Images (plus {{ )) surrounding it;click ok after it pops up), which automatically adds the images needed category. I thought this might help you next time. Feel free to leave me a message if you need any more help. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 04:55, July 15, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Thanks for the help. Leon Davis (talk) 05:39, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Do you understand by the way? I had to do a couple nonsense to stop the actual templates from showing that's why. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 06:16, July 15, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Yeah, it was rather useful, there are still things to learn here, I've only been active for about a year so it takes adjusting, right? Leon Davis (talk) 12:26, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yup you are right. When I came here I didn't know anything. I couldn't understand the templates, the categories, I didn't even know how to add wikipedia links XD. Anyway, keep trying at it. I can talk to an admin and see if I can give you a page to practice those templates on by the way. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:26, July 15, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


Where is it stated in GTA 5 that Trevor is 45? Universetwisters (talk) 02:07, July 23, 2014 (UTC)


You can write a request for promotion here. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 13:59, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re:CJ's Photo

I got it from a Facebook page called GTA 5 FC. AK-28 (TalkEdits) 14:09, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

A Word of Advice

Hey Leon Davis. I noticed your request for promotion to a patroller on the GTA: Requests for Promotion page. I just wanted to tell you it's best to message all of the staff members and let them know you've made a request so they can vote on it. Just wanted to let you know. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 07:02, July 28, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Thanks I've mentioned it to Illan but I still need to get back to him. Leo68 (talk) 10:12, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Alright and you know how to get to the page that lists all staff members right? Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:51, July 28, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


Congrats, you're now a Patroller :). Tom Talk 09:56, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats, Leo. :) If you have any questions, ideas or something similar, do not hesitate to ask me or Tom. P.S. Please choose an image (GTA-related) to use as your avatar on the staff page. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 11:05, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
I think Ilan is sorting that out, it usually takes a while to change. Tom Talk 23:18, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
For a some reason the coloring doesn't work. I'll continue to check it every day. Anyway, yeah, sure. You can use your current avatar for the staff page. I'll add you soon. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 10:10, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


Congrats man on the promotion! I hope you enjoy being a patroller here and if you need any help don't hesitate to ask me! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 23:42, August 3, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Thanks bro. Leo68 00:32, August 4, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for your vote, Leo! RageQuit Talk 09:37, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Requests

Sure you can vote. Tom Talk 17:22, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


We don't urgently need a patroller, we need to wait until a good candidate comes along. We don't want to rush into anything and end up with someone unqualified. Tom Talk 11:47, August 18, 2014 (UTC)


I didn't delete the Pilot School Instructor page, I just made it a redirect to the Flight School Instructor page. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 17:02, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, I noticed. Thanks. Leo68 (talk) 17:19, August 20, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks bro, i appreciate it, even the minimal features like the DRLs deserve an article ;) (AndreEagle17 (talk) 02:50, August 25, 2014 (UTC))

re: running lights

Is it really necessary to have a page for daylight running lights, as opposed to just putting it in the trivia section? Does this mean we need to have a page for convertibles and other trivial vehicle parts? If anything there should be a vote on this Universetwisters (talk) 02:53, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

convertible tops are a minor visual feature too but they don't have a page. And it wouldn't be an edit war had you not reverted all the requests. Don't they have th go through a keep/delete thing to determine if it stays or not? And even then, there's a lot of pages marked for deletion that haven't been deleted for a while Universetwisters (talk) 03:02, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'll talk to an admin about it in the morning. In the meantime, please stop removing my request. There is no need to remove other peoples opinions just because you don't agree with them Universetwisters (talk) 03:05, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to but into this, but I believe the page should be kept because it is a new feature found in cars in the HD Universe. Your request to delete such a page is like saying the Door Ajar Chime page should be deleted because it's nothing special. I honestly believe both pages should be kept and left alone. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 03:09, August 25, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Considering that both pages really are "nothing special" and are rather trivial aspects to the vehicles, why not add the fact that they have running lights or door ajar chimes to the vehicle's trivia page? Universetwisters (talk) 03:13, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, they deserve their own page. They're lots of feature pages such as Executions, Threatening, Top-down perspective, etc that have their own pages, so saying to delete both pages isn't necessary. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 03:21, August 25, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


I deleted the DRL page because I too believe it is irrelevant. However, we should keep the door ajar chime page as that is a new, more noticeable feature. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 10:19, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Unnecessary Pages

I thin we should keep them because they are still a part of the game and its design. Without them it would be a boring, dull city. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 10:45, August 25, 2014 (UTC)


Okay, It is only confirmed to be manufactured in the HD Universe. XPanettaa (Talk) 10:10, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

On Maneuvers

- taken 60 seconds ago:


Smurfynz (talk) 07:00, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I have added a talk page on the On_Maneuvers page to discuss further. I still disagree with you :) Smurfynz (talk) 08:15, September 4, 2014 (UTC)


Adam West: Sorry about the template. Discussion was already had by others on talk page though. It was redundant to try and restart it, nobody took the initiative before.Occono (talk) 21:39, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Vandal?


wtf is your problem?

wtf is $100,000,000 payout on Coveted if not vandalism?Smurfynz (talk) 07:39, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

New page for Coasting - template issues

Can you take a look please Coasting - couldn't get the "Game:"  tag to apply and also just generally check how it looks.

Cheers Smurfynz (talk) 07:30, September 4, 2014 (UTC)


Yup, i just didn't know how to put a "delete" template, but thanks, now i'm aware of it :) (AndreEagle17 (talk) 21:24, September 6, 2014 (UTC))


Alright, thanks Leo. I suppose I could give it another shot later on in the future, but after that whole mess that occurred involving me on another wiki, I'm not sure if the staff here is too keen on trusting me. I'll continue editing here though. Thanks again for your "yes" vote. RageQuit Talk 16:32, September 7, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Leo, about the Buffalo, a user said that Dom has a Buffalo, i was waiting someone to confirm that so a edited it quickly before i had to get out, but okay, i have never seen him in a Buffalo either, so that's okay with this, i'll revert the Buffalo from his vehicles too (AndreEagle17 (talk) 01:45, September 9, 2014 (UTC))

Actually, this user was the one who said that (AndreEagle17 (talk) 02:39, September 9, 2014 (UTC))

Pfister Design

Hey Leon Davis. I'm thinking about adding Pfister Design to the Clothing Stores category because in real life, Porsche Design sells clothes, shoes, jewelry and other luxurious stuff, which Pfister Design is based off of. Let me know if you think adding Pfister Design to the Clothing Stores category is a good idea. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 18:59, September 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Assassination Page

Hey  Leon Davis. I agree with making a page for Lester's assassination missions. You can go ahead and make it and I'll check to see if you missed out anything. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 22:29, September 13, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Dom's Buffalo

Hey Leo, what's up? Remember when we reverted the information saying that Dom does not own a Buffalo? Today, actually, 10 minutes ago i saw him driving a Buffalo in the Strangers and Freaks mission Targeted Risk, play by yourself and you'll see that he goes away with a orange Buffalo, i'm adding that information to the page, alright? (AndreEagle17 (talk) 23:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC))

Hahaha i actually like his missions, it's just fun, his death was also ironic for me (AndreEagle17 (talk) 00:06, September 14, 2014 (UTC))


Okay man, if you say so, i just didn't consider that "Bullshit", but okay, if you're telling this, i'll change it to "that's ridiculous" (AndreEagle17 (talk) 00:59, September 17, 2014 (UTC))

RE:User Page

I clicked on edit history that you edited your user page last time and clicked on it and put it back the way you added on there. Cloudkit01 (talk) 22:22, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hello mah nigga, your erased my publication ¿Why? Because my question wasn`t to your liking? OK

im sorry im having to constantly revert it, but im trying to help, the guy that edited the adder keeps changing what ive done. im only trying to help, if he keep changing it aswell shoudnt he be banned aswell, why cant he just agree with me!!Monkeypolice188 (talk) 12:01, September 19, 2014 (UTC) Monkeypolice188

Dude why did you report my GTA SA Stories page? it was a real GTA game that got cancelled!

i used to at Rockstar and Lazlow Jones told they had that idea in the mind.

Think twice. RockstarFanboy

RE: San Andreas Templates

Yep. I have them for all GTA's. Some are ready to be posted, some are still unfinished (Chinatown Wars for example)

V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 21:08, September 19, 2014 (UTC)


You might want to take a look to at this user who regularly adds nonsense and poorly written content to the Wanted Level in GTA V page. RainingPain17 (talk) 07:09, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

im only telling you that the range rover has nothing to do with vapid, so remove it of vapid, and put it on enus or gallavainter. Monkeypolice188 (talk) 19:29, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

oh my god, im sooo sorry i didnt realise it stated huntley sport in the vehicles manufactured , sorry again, you may revert your edits, i didnt see the vehicles made. ok sorry againMonkeypolice188 (talk) 19:31, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

i wish i woudnt of given my apologies to you now, and by the way i won the adder case!! 

its quite unbelivable your treating me like this, i have bearly been on the wiki a month now, and your treating me like i know everything about it, give me a chance, i have little to no experience with this feature and your constantly watching over my work and changing things, im just pointing thing out, i have no idea about the wiki terms and policies and you think you can shout and be smart with me, im sick of the treatment on the wiki, its quite irratating me, infact if something i edit gets changed by you again i will submit a block against you and leave the wiki. Monkeypolice188 (talk) 19:48, September 20, 2014 (UTC)


PIRA (Provisional IRA) is valid. Smurfynz (talk) 11:48, September 21, 2014 (UTC)


Hi Leo, I recently left a request for a promotion. Could you vote ? Thanks. RainingPain17 (talk) 15:37, September 25, 2014 (UTC)


Hello Leo what's up? I have left a request in the promotion page in the advice of Smashbro and RainingPain and I wanted you to vote and comment if I should be a patroller or not :) (AndreEagle17 (talk) 17:51, September 28, 2014 (UTC))


Thanks bro :) Ilan already told me what I needed to know. RainingPain17-New-Signature (Talk - Edits) 19:04, October 8, 2014 (UTC)


Oh, thanks for your support, i'll try my best and try again next time, maybe in two months i'll go there again, anyway thanks for that :) (AndreEagle17 (talk) 19:09, October 8, 2014 (UTC))


Aye, I'm aware of those pages. Sure, I'll spread the word. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 11:03, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

When it said military it didn't say AMERICAN military. I was pointing out how it could have been used as a part of the Canadian military.


Yeah thanks, I wanted to add the under construction template but I forgot :) I've considered promotion, but right now I think there are enough patrollers and they're doing well. Maybe in the future I'll make a request if it's needed. DocVinewood (talk) 08:32, October 10, 2014 (UTC)


I guess so but I just want to have him blocked. Take a look at his irrelevant contributions. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:55, October 11, 2014 (UTC)


Don't think 558050 will bite you. He's not a kid. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:13, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Leon Davis. RainingPain17 has created a new Vandalism template which should be used before the Warning template for vandals. It's called Template:Vandalism. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 21:15, October 12, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Nvm, I'll put up. Leo68 (talk) 22:46, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions here, at least one of your recent editsTemplate:Test appears to be an act of vandalism, and has been reverted. If you continue to vandalize any pages, you will receive a block for an appropriate amount of time. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Thank you.

Issued by:


That's good then, I never found them the same person, the discussion is over already Signature (Talk) 21:34, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Construction/stub templates on the Verified jobs pages

Thanks for the reminder, broke my flow and I made a few mistakes... :)

I had the construction template on my initial copy&paste text and obviously dropped it off at some point so I added back on again for the last few.

I don't intend fleshing those Verified pages out the way I did for the Rockstar Created jobs myself, someone else can have that pleasure.

Yes, I turn 45 this year. Some of us have to contribute to the high side of that "average age of a gamer" statistic, right? Smurfynz (talk) 06:24, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Split Lago Zancudo and Zancudo River

Hey Leon Davis. I made a request on the Lago Zancudo's talk page about splitting it apart from the Zancudo River, since the Zancudo River link redirects to Lago Zancudo. I think they are two different locations and need to be split apart like they first were. Leave a vote on the talk page please. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 18:47, October 13, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


If you have to warn a user who created an incorrect page, you should use this template I created.

BTW, YOU ARE 46 ? Damn, I thought you were like 18....Anyway, welcome here "old man" ;) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:50, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


I know it's not a quite serious topic, but whoa! You're 46? Because,really, I thought you were 16 or 18, because you hate the Dubsta and you like the Zentorno, I thought only younger players hated the Dubsta, and BTW I consider myself a "old man", I like muscle cars, Off-road vehicles, Ferraris rather than modern vehicles and those "old man things" xD Signature (Talk) 18:59, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, I had to write about the edit war in Ilan's talk page, he is a very rude user, at first, he called Cloudkit a "little cunt", and now he says it's a dumb fact, IMO that was a very interesting fact Signature (Talk) 21:27, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sticking my nose into both these discussions...

  1. Leo is only a year or two older than me :)
  2. That guy must have Tourettes in his fingers, every edit seems to need a rude comment, some of them rightly earning him a block previously. But to be honest, I actually agree with him about the irrelevance of that trivia on the Roosevelt, but I don't mind if it stays there either.

Smurfynz (talk) 21:34, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Nov 19, '69. Got into a bad habit after about 35 of forgetting how old I actually am so just do the [curryear-1969] calculation, so before November I can be over-stating the age.  Smurfynz (talk) 21:42, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Zancudo River redirect

You can edit it by changing the address in your browser to /Zancudo_River?action=edit This avoids the redirect and allows you to remove it. Smurfynz (talk) 20:41, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Done Smurfynz (talk) 20:56, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


Of course. If he'll do it again, he'll get a ban. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 18:00, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


Yup, I felt like a patroller right now, thank you for helping me and giving him a warning, that was getting annoying alredy Signature (Talk) 18:06, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


I need your opinion on something here. 558050 Talk 15:32 15 October, 2014 (UTC)


Oh man, even you got into that? Sean and Razor are starting to annoy every user now, but entering in a wiki that you work as a Crat? This has gone too far, but i'll give you an advice, don't even answer them Signature (Talk) 14:45, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Beaters & Wrecks

Hey man, I was thinking about spliting up the page Wrecks, to make the undriveable wrecks stay on their page an the beaters to have their own page, this is because "Wrecks" is on the "Uncontrollable vehicles" category, so if Wrecks are separete from beaters, it will be more accurate to say that they're uncontrollable, while the beaters are controllable, what do you think about that? Signature (Talk) 17:02, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, i'll put this in the discussion and i'll add a "separete" template in the main page, we need to know if other users will agree Signature (Talk) 17:11, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Vespucci Beach Sidewalk

Hey, I'd like to hear your opinion about this when you have time. Thanks! DocVinewood (talk) 18:34, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


Too late for the last revert.. am uploading the video (my internet upload speed sucks). Given RazorShotter has colluded with SeanSiew and XPpanettaa (see iLans talk page), I'm kind of hoping reason will prevail here. Smurfynz (talk) 23:26, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


The idea was suggested because Cloudkit do rarely answer messages other users leave him, and do never vote on requests for promotion. Four months ago Ilan left him a message but it appears nothing has really changed. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:18, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to but in this, but Cloud also fails to help the community. Not only does he not reply to other users but he also does not vote nor try to help the GTA Wiki community become better. With all these problems here and discussions we are making to make this wiki better, Cloud has yet to join them. Also RainingPain, LS11sVaultBoy has warned Cloudkit too and he hasn't changed either. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 19:22, October 20, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Well, with Tom we have decided not to open request, but he will leave him a last message (3rd warning). In case nothing changes after, as Tom said, it's an issue, and we'll open the request. 

By the way I need your help with something. I'm working on "trivia splitting", i.e. splitting the trivia into different sections (one per game). There should be a category "General" with facts referring to the different renditions of the weapon/vehicle, and one with trivia facts related to a single game. (see an example here). Since there is a lot of work with that, could you help me with that ? Thanks. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 08:36, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Trivia Sections

Hey Leon Davis. RainingPain and majority of the community has started sectioning trivia on pages into separate sections for each game. Trivia that goes for several games or other games goes into a General section. We're going to need a lot of help so if you see any pages with a lot of trivia, try working on them. Thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 02:16, October 22, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Franklin's mom

Doesn't deserve a page in my opinion, she is just mentioned one or two times, not like Beverly Johnson. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 21:56, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

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