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==Out of town==
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==Retirement==
I'll be in West Virginia for a week, maybe more. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:27, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
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Old man, you're retiring?! :o
   
:I'm still in WV and will be for at least another week, maybe more. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:30, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for all those months (years?) of helping and leading this community!
   
==Help==
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Good luck with whatever you'll choose to do next!
   
any kind of good help would u do for me[[User:Hadisa16|Hadisa16]] ([[User talk:Hadisa16|talk]]) 05:28, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:48, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
:What do you want help with? <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 13:05, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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:Jeff, you're retiring? :( I can not find words to thank you because you have chosen to promote me. This took me by surprise, as I haven't been active in the last couple of months, due to learning for the important exams I'll take this year. I hope you won't leave the wiki definetely. Thanks again. Cheers. <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 08:17, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Correct==
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==Farewell==
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Hey Jeff I just noticed that you resigned from b'crat. You were always a fair guy and kept the wiki running right. I respect your selfless decision to step down and hope you will still be present around the wiki. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Jeff, I want to know , what are the things that I didn't follow the GTA Wiki rules in it so I can correct my mistakes.[[User:Kingrhem|Kingrhem]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|talk]]) 20:19, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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==Promotion==
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Hey Jeff. Could you vote on my request at [[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]. Thank you. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 22:21, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
==About the block==
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==RE: Honest Opinion==
Why I was blocked for responding to jbanton's unprovoked pissy comment? I left my first opinion and then was belittled with "do some research" and:
 
   
" a view that indicates little research done before speaking. I suggest people do some research before voting if they wish to agree with this statemnt."
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I completely agree, I was going to remove it initially but Sasquatch is taking everything I do at the moment as a personal attack so I was trying to find some middle ground. He has this idea that I hate him, which isn't true, I just don't like the way he went about trying to get promoted, or the way he reacted to my opinions on that.
   
He has some sort of issue with me, and I have done nothing to him. If that is how he picks apart everyone then he does not have the temperment to be an admin. I called him insecure for his uncalled for attack on me, and then was met with a 3 day block, (thanks for just one) but he started it. I don't go around looking for fights. In fact me and Dodo have gotten past are conflict and have no problems now. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 02:22, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
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I didn't know Boomer had done this before, that changes things. Did you see his reason for initially giving a no to Smashbro's request for promotion? Because Smashbro is a Saints Row fan. Anyway, I'll give him a warning and see how he reacts. This whole extra admin thing started because the more inexperienced users had never had to deal with a vandal before. I can't get over the fact that they voted yes to Sasquatch's request for promotion - which I removed - just because he's in America and said he could be active at that time. Being in a certain timezone is not a valid reason to be promoted, as I'm sure you'll agree. They can't seem to accept that being able to block a user will only stop a persistent vandal for a minute while they get a new account. Going to Wikia - which they ended up doing - is exactly what we end up doing anyway.
   
:I was less than happy with JBanton's comment that he's been "tempted to take a dark route", but if you see a fight brewing between you and another user it's best to talk to one of the bureaucrats instead of just laying into him. Can you tell me how all this started? I'm on my way to bed but I'll try to get the problems sorted between the two of you tomorrow. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:04, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for giving your opinion mate, it's always valued. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 09:29, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Community Noticeboard==
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:No problem, I had no idea that that was even possible. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 17:25, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Check out the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard]].  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 03:59, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Archiving the Noticeboard==
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::Alright, cheers. How exactly does it work? Like, how does it tell if a user is a vandal? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 18:18, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, I was thinking after we get Boomer8's purposal finalized, I should archive the community noticeboard because the page is large and up to 10,000 size in bytes.
 
   
[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 15:47, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:::If I explained in public, he might figure out a way around it. If you've got email I can explain that way. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:38, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Libel==
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::::Sent. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:35, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Jeff. I created the [[Libel]] page without knowing there's already a page about it ([[LibEl]]). I added the content from the original page to the second one and improved it. I think [[LibEl]] should be deleted because is not abbreviated as '''LibEl''', but simply '''Libel'' (see the logo).
 
   
[[File:Libel-GTAIV.png|200px]]
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==Sasquatch's Block==
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I know you and me have had our differences but you must agree that an infinite block for Sasquatch is absolutely insane. He was a great editor here and just because of one run in with Tom should never warrant that. I just can't come to understand how he can get the same punishment as a vandal. [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 02:20, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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:The only thing Tom did differently than I would have is I'd have only blocked Sasquatch for 2 weeks initially instead of for a month. Sasquatch received two blocks during the incident with Dodo8 for personal attacks and incivility, this was his third offense and it was a severe one.
   
:No worries, I'll just redirect it. Redirecting's often better than deleting. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:06, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:I keep explaining that when it comes to malicious behavior, I don't care as much about the words used so much as about the intent. In intent, Sasquatch's behavior on GTA Myths Wiki was every bit as bad as the vandal's behavior on this wiki.
   
::Ok, thanks. :) <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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:I'm aware that you have always supported Sasquatch uncritically (you were the only person to vote 'yes' on him in the administrator election) and that you're probably incapable of viewing this situation objectively, so I won't be discussing it any further.
   
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:Lastly, I'm not staff here anymore. I only came back to try to get Wikia to set up the abuse filters. If you really think Tom was that abusive and out of line, take it to Messi or Ilan, not me. Even if I completely agreed with you, I wouldn't be able to help. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:12, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== RE: Delete ==
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==RE: Boomer==
   
Hi, sorry about that. I'll make sure I will just add the template at the top for the future. Ciao :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 15:55, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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I think he just needs to cool off and try and look at everything objectively. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 09:00, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Gurning Chimps page==
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==RE: Abuse Filters==
Why did you revert my edit on the Gurning Chimps page? VEO15's info is wrong.
 
   
[[User:Gurning Chimp|Gurning Chimp]] ([[User talk:Gurning Chimp|talk]]) 16:09, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Great, thanks for that. 
   
==There Needs to Rename One Page==
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I completely agree with that block, his resignation rant was the last straw. Him resigning has probably just saved me having to go through the demotion process again, he's completely out of line. He might believe that all he's doing is sticking up for the little man but his language makes it an attack, his ignorant and compeltely biased rants against us were just ridiculous. 
   
<span style="line-height:20px;">I think [[Carl Johnson's father|this]] page should be renamed to '''Mr. Johnson''' 'cause the page 'bout [[Mr. Cipriani|Toni Cipriani's father]] ain't called '''Toni Cipriani's father''', it's called '''Mr. Cipriani'''. So I think there needs to do the same with this page.</span> [[User:Povke|povke]] ([[User talk:Povke|talk]]) 18:06, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for everything mate. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 16:35, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
:I think it's fine where it is, but you can feel free to start a rename proposal on the article's talk page. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 23:28, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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==I Apologize==
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Hey McJeff. I apologize for all that. I was actually just inviting him to my wiki (Wii Wiki) because I didn't want to cause trouble on the wiki. That's why I'm not really hesitating to tell The Tom about what Sasquatch wants him to do for him. I've read the policies and I won't do it again. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 19:12, May 7, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
==Userbox==
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==Grand Theft Wiki==
Hi Jeff, I saw in your profile the userbox "This user doesn't believe in any GTA Myths" , however I liked the userbox ( as I don't believe too ) and I would ask you where I can find it, because I didn't found in the category. Thanks
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We had a discussion about them few months ago, but I've just found that one administrator of the GTW, IanPhoenix, is plagiarizing content. He is copying tons of pages from us and creating the plagiarized pages on GTW. He has been doing this for a good time and nobody noticed it. He has not been recently promoted so as an admin of their website he needs to know that both sites have history and this kind of conversation of plagiarizing content and other rivalry issues between both wikis was controlled and organized a long time ago. As an administrator of our site, I would try to figure out things with him, calmly. But as you're the most ideal person to handle with it, and in case if you need to contact Gboyers (if he's still living) again, I came to you with the problem. Thanks. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:49, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 16:35, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:I "hard-coded" it into my page. I'll make a template out of it, just gimme a minute or two to remember how. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 17:13, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:Grand Theft Wiki is 98% dead. I don't like it, but I don't see that it's doing enough harm to be worth the hassle trying to make them stop. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:17, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
::OK, you can add it to your userpage with <nowiki>{{Userbox:NoMyths}}</nowiki>. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 23:19, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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::Sure they are dead. To be honest, I liked the fact that he gives at least the source of the article, the GTA Wiki. But it would sound a little bit unsatisfied after the users here work hard to write an article and the guys at GTW just have to do that simple copy-and-paste job. Well, I don't have nothing against it, but I think some users here would have. Anyway, there's really no harm. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]][[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 20:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 
==Rename==
 
Hi Jeff, there is a page with wrong name. The page is [[:Category:Westen Company Vehicles|Westen Company Vehicles]], it's need to be renamed to Category: Western Company Vehicles. [[User:Kingrhem|Kingrhem]] <sup>[[User_talk:Kingrhem|talk]]</sup> 12:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== A Particular User... ==
 
 
Hey, Jeff, I should warn you about a particular user: [[User:Povke]].
 
 
About seven months ago, this user operated on two accounts: accounts [[User:Povilas Povke]] and [[User:Povke PK]]. What he used to do that he would edit on his Povke PK, then switch to Povilas Povke then he would revert all of his PPK's edits and vice versa. If I can recall Ilan or Tom blocked both of his accounts for this. He came back under new accounts, such as [[User:PK LT EU|this]] [[User:PK LT|this]], and [[User:PK=Povke|this]], whick are all blocked.
 
 
I suggest we block him, but because he only made five edits and they're not negative, let's just keep a sharp eye on his actions.
 
 
Out,
 
[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 02:56, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:I noticed that no one explained to him that multiple accounts were against the rules, so I left a very clear, very stern explanation on his talk page. I don't really expect him to listen to it (since he should've known he was doing something wrong when his other accounts kept getting blocked), but sometimes it pays to have good faith, and sometimes it's best to warn before punishing because if you don't malcontents whine about "corruption" and "abuse of power" and other such nonsense. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:24, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::Understood. At first, I saw two accounts named almost the same. I didn't mind it, but when I saw what he was doing, I was about to tell an admin or a bureaucrat, but I saw Ilan blocking him immediately. His edits and undos on his accounts proved his blocking reasons, then he kept on coming back. Now that he hasn't done anything bad and he knows about the multiple accounts rule when/if he reads your warning, it's best to not worry about him/her/it.
 
 
:::[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 23:41, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
 
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==Community Noticeboard problem==
 
*Hi Jeff, I'm trying to write my new article (idea) in the community noticeboard but I can't change to the source mode. What happened and what I need to do?
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 08:09, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
No more problem, now it's resolved.
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 20:34, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==[[Fruit Computers]]==
 
Hi Jeff. I was thinking that we should separate the Fruit Computers page in to 2 different ones (3D Universe & HD Universe). They have many products in both universes and it might be hard for readers to understand that.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
:I will go forward and do it.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
== 2 photos need deleting ==
 
 
Hey Jeff, could you delete [http://gta.wikia.com/File:Apc_tankgta5.png this photo] and [http://gta.wikia.com/File:WTF_ROCKSTAR.png this photo] , as they are both fake.. Ciao [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 08:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Watch Dogs Affiliation==
 
I just checked the community noticeboard and saw that the Watch Dogs Wiki affiliation request failed on account of not getting a 70% vote in favor. The Watch Dogs Wiki logo though is still in the Affiliates section on the main page; so in it probably should be removed. I'm just saying this because I know you're busy much of the time and may not notice. Anyways talk to you soon. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Boomer's block==
 
Hi. I heard about Boomer's block. I don't know how to tell you but... Ilan told me a while ago about what a good editor Winter Moon was. I'm not defending Boomer, but he was quite right in that post. You should encourage Winter Moon to be more active.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:BTW, you forgot to add a punctuation sign after "by their request" on the Policy page. I would do it myself but is locked.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::I didn't block Boomer for thinking Winter Moon ought to be demoted for being inactive, I blocked him for personal attacks. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:24, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::Agreed with that. Boomer should have said it kindly, since Winter Moon never said bad things about Boomer. BTW, I think I should stop talking about Winter's demotion. I don't want it to look like I'm saying it because I want to get promoted. :( About that, no matter if WM is demoted or not, do you think I could apply sometime soon? I should ask the other bureaucrats too, though.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::Once the current dustup settles I plan to propose raising the staff limit by 1. Like I said before, if GTAV comes out and Winter Moon is still barely active, then maybe Messi and myself will be more inclined to support demoting him. And when someone proposed raising the admin limit by 5, there were some good points made that even if raising it by 5 was too many, 1 or 2 might be good. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Demotion alternative==
 
:If Winter Moon is demoted, you may apply. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 18:55, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::Hey Jeff. I left a possible alternative to the wintermoon demotion issue. I don't want to get back into it so I just want to let you know its in the comments section of the demotion request. But just for the record, I can apply for admin if wintermoon is demoted right? Once again my whole ideaology is explained in the comments and I think it is at this point the best way to deal with a possible demotion. Thanks, [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:05, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::If Winter Moon is demoted I think the best option would be a Admin-Bureaucrat only vote. There are many patrollers who want to be promoted, and I consider the patrollers will only care about their requests. But for '''now''', Winter Moon '''is not''' demoted, so let's not speculate.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::Hmmm, so what about now? Anyways...<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:::::Hey Jeff. Do you like soccer? If so, who's your favorite player?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::::Only sport I watch is NFL. I used to watch a bit of soccer, but my home team (Baltimore Blast) folded and I quit. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:40, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::::::Yes, it's a bad thing when your team foldes. It makes you feel you don't like that sport anymore, anyways.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
==Demotion Deleted?==
 
Hey Jeff. I just came on tonight and saw that you took down the wintermoon demotion vote. I saw what boomer said and I aggree with you, but after you rightfully filtered the request, why would you remove it? I have no beef with WM. I respect the fact that he is a senior editor here and has done many worthy contributions. Boomers request was not exactly what I would have proposed. So with your blessing, could I craft a proper and respectful alternative to a demotion of wintermoon. It is no secret that I would love to be a possible candidate for admin, but this isn't about that. Wintermoon's situation could be handaled in a way that won't make him feel disrespected, but also allow growth for the wiki. I hope you'll agree to my proposition as I would like to have you and others see my proposal before you make up your mind. Thankyou[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:46, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Can you wait about a week? Messi, Tom and I have to have a talk, and there's something else going on that I have to hear back from Wikia Central about. Like I kept on saying, I'm not opposed to demoting Winter Moon if that's what the community thinks is right, but the prior discussion was turning into a mess of ideas that need to be considered individually and not in the context of demoting someone. I now think we ought to gain community consensus on how to deal with "just barely active" administrators before we vote on demoting Winter Moon. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:56, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I wonder, does Winter Moon even knows that he's up for demotion? <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::Yeah Jeff, sure I'll wait a week or so. Also I think it is a great idea to persue a community vote regarding activity requirements. Anyways thanks for being open minded to what my viewpoint is and I hope that this dilemma can be resolved in a way that will be best for the wiki. Thanks. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:41, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I think it should be like Dodo said in the previous session, if WM is demoted, the next admin should be a decision from the Admins/Bureaucrats, because every patroller want to get promoted and it wouldn't be normal 7 requests in the [[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion|page]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 09:54, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Vandal Report==
 
Hi Jeff. This [[User:Sean.drew.535i|user]] is screwing up vehicle page by adding info that is not accurate, and this [[User:Danny Gracyne|one]] edited the Community page changing some votes from polls.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:BTW, would you mind to vote on the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard|Flag request]]?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
==Hey Jeff==
 
Hey Jey. I just wanted you to know that I am going to submit my request regaurding Wintermoon on the community noticeboard tonight. We spoke last week and you said it would be ok if I wait a week or so before any requests are filed. I just want to let you know first hand because I am doing this with the utmost respect for Wintermoon. At the end of the day I respect the work he has done, and only want that tradition of excellence to continue strongly. Thankyou for your consideration. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:20, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Vote==
 
I just finished the filing the request. Could you [http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard#Request_that_Wintermoon_be_demoted_to_Patroller vote] on it. Thanks. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:12, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==The request fails==
 
Hey Jeff. The demotion of Wintermoon looks dead. I know he has done nothing wrong but I dont think he even cares about being an admin anymore. Could there be a new section with part-time admins in the GTA Wiki Staff? I'm just thinking out loud. I respect the communitys decision and will not push anymore. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:09, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:The vote's going to run for the official amount of time, through the 11th. After it closes I'll think about what to do. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:28, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Understood. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:51, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I don't mind putting him as a part time admin as you can add me as a part time B'crat as apart from personnel related tasks, I have no real plans to edit fully until V is out. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:24, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== "70% no" ==
 
 
On the current controversial noticeboard topic it says a 70% no vote would achieve demotion, but surely voting against the motion would lead to the motion not being carried? (meaning no demotion) Shouldn't it be 70% in favour that leads to the motion being carried?
 
 
Either way, the motion has quite clearly failed. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 11:31, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Danny Tamberelli page==
 
Hey Jeff, I made a new page call [[Danny Tamberelli]], I want to upload a image of him, but I only found the image of him on Wikipedia page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Tamberelli him], would it be okay if I do that Jeff, let me know okay, so thanks. [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 14:40, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
==RE:==
 
==RE:==
I have just gotten your message and I just want to let you know I'll drop the whole Winter Moon demotion thing since it failed. I'm done with the whole monotony of this dicussion. But I still do think something has to happen so more active patrollers can have a shot for a fair request to become an admin.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 02:03, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Seen it. I've protected Sasquatch's talk page here, and I'll keep an eye on that Brandon-guy's edits. As it is currently midnight here in Israel, I'll join this discussion first thing in morning. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:55, May 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Hmmm, well, I'm fine about it. Dan told me WM logged on recently, and he also responded to his message. If he would atleast participate on the Community Noticeboard from time to time there would be no reason to have him demoted. I also totally agree with the decision. About the "shot" Boomer is talking about, I think we should organize a request on the Community Noticeboard for adding more Staff, but that's not urgent. And after what happened with WM's demotion I don't think anyone wants it too soon. I don't want it either.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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==RE: ==
   
==Heads up==
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I've warned him and he seems to have stopped, I figured something happened between him and Sasquatch, but to me he just seems like a new user who has no idea what he's doing. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 21:25, May 20, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Jeff. Some bonehead [[User:ISlate]] is running around deleting things from pages and adding garbage like "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOlol" etc. etc.
 
   
Take care, man. [[User:HebbyDGouchemen|<font color="purple">HebbyDGouchemen</font>]] [[User_talk:HebbyDGouchemen|('''talk here''')]] 14:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
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==RE: 3 Things==
   
==Hey Jeff==
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They're both blocked. 187 videos... You don't happen to know of a mass deletion tool do you? 
I was just going through my old talk page messages, and when I got to the end I can honestly say I feel like my reputation means shit on this wiki. It was just last March when I applied for admin, and even though it failed, Messi, Mikey, and Thomas all said they would vote yes in my next request. Then Dodo and I had our run in; and after that everyone has lost respect for me. Now there are admin limits, everyone has lost faith in me and overall I have a VERY unlikely chance at becoming an admin. No BS, do you think I'll ever become an admin? I have created a page for every street in GTA IV w/ cross street discriptions. Plus countless other edits that are of quality. Why does the overall staff not want be to become an admin? I just feel that the staff won't ever give me a chance. I don't know. Whats done is now done and I have to live with it. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:I'm going to apologize in advance for this comment, because it's mean spirited and it's going to offend some people, but it has to be put out here.
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A Myths Wiki admin complained about Sasquatch to me, so I'll see if that issue is resolved before unblocking him. 
   
:There's a real maturity issue going on here with the staff and some of the patrollers especially. I've always stood up for people's rights to have opinions, I helped the Winter Moon demotion issue move along, and all I get is accusations that I've got some sleazy motivation to protect him. The motion wasn't popular, it didn't come close to passing, and frankly, when the few people who voted in favor of the demotion then go high five each other and celebrate how awesome they are for "standing up to the bureaucrats", it's damned obnoxious. People don't seem to know the difference between "adding content" and "adding unnecessary and redundant categories to everything". People are using these friends lists to form cliques and get back at each other over disagreements by removing each other from them. Boomer and Dodo acted so aggressive and suspicious during the initial demotion request against WM that Messi asked Wikia to run a checkuser on them because we thought they might be the same person. I blocked Thomas and undid it 15 minutes later, but Thomas's English is so poor that he didn't understand me when I told him he was unblocked, both he and Boomer are inches away from having demotion requests filed against them.
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Thanks for letting me know. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 16:38, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
:And I'm just disgusted with the wiki right now and completely not in the mood to edit, let alone try and make policy proposals to let people run for administrator positions, especially since I'd be voting 'no' on just about any RfA anyway.
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==I Need Your Opinion==
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Hey McJeff. Can you answer this question I have? It is okay on Wikia for other users to make fun of and laugh (joking or not joking) of users? Would that be considered cyberbulling? I asked you because I feel you would know the answer and you are a very wise person when it comes to Wikia and how it works. Thanks! [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 00:19, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
:I strongly suggest you and all the other patrollers drop the subject of admins for a long while, and by 'long while' I mean 'until GTA5 comes out and we see what kind of vandalism load we're dealing with'.
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:It's probably not okay, but you'll have to give me more information about what's going on before I can really answer. Who's saying what about who? <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 01:05, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
:You can feel free to talk to Messi or Tom and see if they're feeling any more sympathetic to admin-hopefuls than I am. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 08:00, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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::It's not here. It's on another wiki that I'm a rollback on and this user and another user who joined cyberbullied me, and one admin believed it was okay for them to "troll" and make fun of me. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 02:17, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
::Yes, I was supporting WM's demotion because he didn't edited for one month, but sincerely I was not doing it to get promoted. Right now I don't want to. I just realised a few days ago that I blame you for my mistake of having a bad behaviour. Sincerely it would be better for all of us to remain a patroller, school year is starting and we have to learn a lot for the exams that will decide our highschool. I won't have time to visit the wiki too much. You can go on with the checkuser thing, convince yourself I'm not lying. Shit.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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:::If an administrator of another wiki is openly encouraging other users to mistreat you, the thing to do is use Special:Contact on THAT wiki and explain to Wikia Staff. If you'd tell me which wiki and what happened, I might be able to give better advice.
   
:::The checkuser was completed weeks ago, it proved you and Boomer innocent. If it hadn't, you'd both be banned. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:50, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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:::The thing is, Wikia doesn't usually get involved when the problem with a wiki is incivility/"cyberbullying" by staff or general incompetence on the part of a wiki's staff. There's a couple wikis on Wikia that I would contribute to but don't because of unpleasant staff. It's just the way Wikia is. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::Ok, can we stop this WM demotion/patroller promotion thing? It's getting annoying. And Sasquatch, don't be so offensed, I'm agreed with McJeff that most of your edits are adding categories and adding pages that have nothing to do with GTA (PS4, Xbox One), awful grammar also (Cemetarys). And let me remind you that I only said that you weren't prepared for the job, then you continued the fight after I stopped. Let's drop the stick. I will.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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::::So honestly, say a staff member on any of the wikis you edit on, including here, gets insulted by a regular user or group of users and the admins think it is funny. How would you handle that situation cause that's what I had to put up with on another wiki that I'm a rollback user on. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 04:18, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
::::Dodo why are you jummping on me about BS grammatical errors that are one in a thousand. Not to mention your grammar isn't that pretty neither; I just don't see the need in needling someone over it. I don't want to get into it with you Dodo, I was talking to Jeff first.
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:::::I've asked twice for you to tell me which wiki this is taking place on. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:54, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
:::::Jeff, why is it that I am so disliked by just about everyone? If you think I shouldn't be an admin based on the edits I have made then that is just not true. I make quality articles (every street in GTA 4). I don't just add pointless categories like male/female categories that everyone has jumped on. So Jeff I'll leave it at that, because I won't be distracted from my patrolled duties by the hopes of being an admin anymore. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 18:30, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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::::::Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't notice you were asking me that. It's on the Watch Dogs Wiki. I was cyber bullied or made fun of on a chat though. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:02, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
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:::::::In chat? That makes it tougher to deal with because if it's on the wiki, you can prove it via 'difs' and complain to Community Central.
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:::::::If you don't have proof, the only thing you can do is tell a bureaucrat and hope he listens. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:10, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::::[[File:No War-Not GTA Related.jpg|200px]]<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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::::::::That's the problem. The bureaucrats were in the chat, and one of them found it funny that these two users were making fun of me when they should have been blocked. Plus, they disrespected me, and other staff and users. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:24, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
::::::I hate to intervene into your conversation, but since my name got brought up I guess I'll chime in. Jeff you're obvoiusly holding some grudge against me and I don't know why. I have already messaged you so we can to move on from the WM thing and have not brought anything relating to that subject up since then. Now you're contemplating demoting me! You should take your own advice: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:STICK Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass]. I am offended that Messi had to ask Wikia to have a checkuser test done on Dodo and I. We are both great contributors and for him to take it to that level is disgraceful. Please don't talk behind my back; if you have something to say, say it to my face.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 06:09, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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:::::::::Well, I'm sorry I can't give you an answer that doesn't suck, but if that's the situation there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. I suggest not editing on that wiki anymore. Remember that someone being a bureaucrat doesn't automatically mean they know what they're doing - any newb with an idea for a new wiki can become a bureaucrat and some of them don't know how to edit or treat their users right. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:49, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::::::There is nothing disgraceful about asking for a checkuser to make sure that two users are not the same. When two users have the number 8 at the end of their name, agree with each other nearly all of the time, then I had to make sure that you two were not sockpuppets. There is nothing disgraceful about checking that. I was doing it for the good of the wiki, cause we cannot have sockpuppets on here. Being a patroller who abides by our rules, even you should understand that. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:33, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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:::::::::Don't feel bad. I really appreciate you helping me out with the situation. Best thing to do is to forget it and just do what I have to do there as a rollback. Thanks a lot for your help McJeff! See you around soon! [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:53, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
== Horses in GTA V ==
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==Stepping Down?==
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Any reason why you're stepping down as Bureaucrat? Had no idea. [[User:Leon Davis|Leon Davis]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 04:25, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
* Will there be Horses in the game
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:It's all on my user page. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
*Will you be able to ride them. [[User:Owen1983|Owen1983]] ([[User talk:Owen1983|talk]]) 09:28, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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==Help==
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Hey McJeff. I need your help again, but it's not based on what happened last time. Recently on the Watch Dogs Wiki, I fought a vandal attack that was almost exactly like the one with Insidious, aka JoshuaLeverburg, on this wiki. I remembered that you and Wikia were trying to create these abuse filters to automatically block vandals so I have two questions. Do those filters still work on this wiki? Also, if so, is there a way to add them to the Watch Dogs Wiki? Thanks! [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:10, June 17, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
#We don't know. Only dogs and deers were shown.
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:To use vandalism filters, you have to have Wikia staff activate them - they're turned off by default. My recommendation is to use http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact and explain to them the kind of vandalism you're dealing with. Since that editor likes to create useless pages, you may ask Wikia if they will disable page creation for "new and unregistered" editors. Ask them to enable the "default anti-vandalism filters" too. Be sure to link them to [http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:9660 this thread] so they can see the vandal's threats in its own words. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
#Again, we don't know.
 
 
:-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 14:29, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Boomer8 ==
 
 
I blocked Boomer for a week for bad attitude. It is bad attitude to deem my checkuser as disgraceful, saying I stooped to another level and this "Please don't talk behind my back; if you have something to say, say it to my face.". If you wish to overturn the block, go ahead, but I suggest he has a week out to reflect and think. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:56, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:A week is exactly what our policy said he should get. His first block was for a day. His comment to me, he didn't get blocked for but it was made very clear to him that it was a blockable comment, that would've been 3 days. And so his third offense is for a week. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:45, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==[[Hot Dog Homicide]]==
 
I'm not sure about this one. What if "Homocide" was a pun on words? Someone should check it. I'd do but I never played GTA III and I don't own it.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:I looked it up on Youtube, it's spelled with an I. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:55, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::Ok, thanks for clarifying.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:::Hey, Jeff, wanna talk on the Wiki Chat sometime?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::Sure. What times are you usually in the chat? <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 17:37, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::::I'm here most of the day, but I'm not sure. 9-13 AM GMT+0 (I live in GMT+2). If I'll see you online we'll talk. :) <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
 
 
==Staff page==
 
I noted there are two 'Promotion' sections on the Staff page, and they both pretty much the same (although the first section is more detailed than the second section). Should we remove one or keep the two sections as they were? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 16:30, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Bot permission ==
 
 
Hi! I looked up section about granting users new permissions, but I haven't found anything about bots. I was thinking of performing interwiki action between english gtaWiki and polish one. In wikipedias I had to apply for bot flag (in order not to spam in recent changes). How is it done here? As a bot operator I've got experience on wikia as well as on polish wikipedia as WebmajstrBot (over 5000 edits), so I think that changes commited by my bot won't damage this wiki :) [[User:OzgaBot|OzgaBot]] ([[User talk:OzgaBot|talk]]) 16:17, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Possible Absence notice :( ==
 
 
Hi there, in about twenty-four hours time I'll be leaving on a five week holiday. I'll not have Wi-Fi access because I would like to save some cash for GTA and a new HDTV. I may still be able to use the internet via mobile, but my access to editing could drop to minimal at best. I'll try do my best while away and then return to business as usual when I return to the UK on 1st September. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 10:30, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Community Noticeboard==
 
Check out my new idea at the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard|Community Noticeboard]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 19:53, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Spam ==
 
 
Hey Jeff, just to point out that [[User:Coachoutlet01]] is creating spam blogs about random things. Cheers [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 11:33, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Looks like Ilan got him. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:42, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 

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RetirementEdit

Old man, you're retiring?! :o

Thank you for all those months (years?) of helping and leading this community!

Good luck with whatever you'll choose to do next!

-- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 07:48, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Jeff, you're retiring? :( I can not find words to thank you because you have chosen to promote me. This took me by surprise, as I haven't been active in the last couple of months, due to learning for the important exams I'll take this year. I hope you won't leave the wiki definetely. Thanks again. Cheers. Dodo8 Talk 08:17, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

FarewellEdit

Hey Jeff I just noticed that you resigned from b'crat. You were always a fair guy and kept the wiki running right. I respect your selfless decision to step down and hope you will still be present around the wiki. Sasquatch101 (talk) 04:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

PromotionEdit

Hey Jeff. Could you vote on my request at GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion. Thank you. Sasquatch101 (talk) 22:21, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Honest OpinionEdit

I completely agree, I was going to remove it initially but Sasquatch is taking everything I do at the moment as a personal attack so I was trying to find some middle ground. He has this idea that I hate him, which isn't true, I just don't like the way he went about trying to get promoted, or the way he reacted to my opinions on that.

I didn't know Boomer had done this before, that changes things. Did you see his reason for initially giving a no to Smashbro's request for promotion? Because Smashbro is a Saints Row fan. Anyway, I'll give him a warning and see how he reacts. This whole extra admin thing started because the more inexperienced users had never had to deal with a vandal before. I can't get over the fact that they voted yes to Sasquatch's request for promotion - which I removed - just because he's in America and said he could be active at that time. Being in a certain timezone is not a valid reason to be promoted, as I'm sure you'll agree. They can't seem to accept that being able to block a user will only stop a persistent vandal for a minute while they get a new account. Going to Wikia - which they ended up doing - is exactly what we end up doing anyway.

Thanks for giving your opinion mate, it's always valued. Tom Talk 09:29, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

No problem, I had no idea that that was even possible. Tom Talk 17:25, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, cheers. How exactly does it work? Like, how does it tell if a user is a vandal? Tom Talk 18:18, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
If I explained in public, he might figure out a way around it. If you've got email I can explain that way. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:38, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Sent. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:35, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sasquatch's BlockEdit

I know you and me have had our differences but you must agree that an infinite block for Sasquatch is absolutely insane. He was a great editor here and just because of one run in with Tom should never warrant that. I just can't come to understand how he can get the same punishment as a vandal. Boomer8 (talk) 02:20, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

The only thing Tom did differently than I would have is I'd have only blocked Sasquatch for 2 weeks initially instead of for a month. Sasquatch received two blocks during the incident with Dodo8 for personal attacks and incivility, this was his third offense and it was a severe one.
I keep explaining that when it comes to malicious behavior, I don't care as much about the words used so much as about the intent. In intent, Sasquatch's behavior on GTA Myths Wiki was every bit as bad as the vandal's behavior on this wiki.
I'm aware that you have always supported Sasquatch uncritically (you were the only person to vote 'yes' on him in the administrator election) and that you're probably incapable of viewing this situation objectively, so I won't be discussing it any further.
Lastly, I'm not staff here anymore. I only came back to try to get Wikia to set up the abuse filters. If you really think Tom was that abusive and out of line, take it to Messi or Ilan, not me. Even if I completely agreed with you, I wouldn't be able to help. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:12, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: BoomerEdit

I think he just needs to cool off and try and look at everything objectively. Tom Talk 09:00, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Abuse FiltersEdit

Great, thanks for that. 

I completely agree with that block, his resignation rant was the last straw. Him resigning has probably just saved me having to go through the demotion process again, he's completely out of line. He might believe that all he's doing is sticking up for the little man but his language makes it an attack, his ignorant and compeltely biased rants against us were just ridiculous. 

I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for everything mate. Tom Talk 16:35, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

I ApologizeEdit

Hey McJeff. I apologize for all that. I was actually just inviting him to my wiki (Wii Wiki) because I didn't want to cause trouble on the wiki. That's why I'm not really hesitating to tell The Tom about what Sasquatch wants him to do for him. I've read the policies and I won't do it again. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 19:12, May 7, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Grand Theft WikiEdit

We had a discussion about them few months ago, but I've just found that one administrator of the GTW, IanPhoenix, is plagiarizing content. He is copying tons of pages from us and creating the plagiarized pages on GTW. He has been doing this for a good time and nobody noticed it. He has not been recently promoted so as an admin of their website he needs to know that both sites have history and this kind of conversation of plagiarizing content and other rivalry issues between both wikis was controlled and organized a long time ago. As an administrator of our site, I would try to figure out things with him, calmly. But as you're the most ideal person to handle with it, and in case if you need to contact Gboyers (if he's still living) again, I came to you with the problem. Thanks. --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 16:49, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Grand Theft Wiki is 98% dead. I don't like it, but I don't see that it's doing enough harm to be worth the hassle trying to make them stop. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:17, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
Sure they are dead. To be honest, I liked the fact that he gives at least the source of the article, the GTA Wiki. But it would sound a little bit unsatisfied after the users here work hard to write an article and the guys at GTW just have to do that simple copy-and-paste job. Well, I don't have nothing against it, but I think some users here would have. Anyway, there's really no harm. --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 20:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Edit

Seen it. I've protected Sasquatch's talk page here, and I'll keep an eye on that Brandon-guy's edits. As it is currently midnight here in Israel, I'll join this discussion first thing in morning. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 19:55, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Edit

I've warned him and he seems to have stopped, I figured something happened between him and Sasquatch, but to me he just seems like a new user who has no idea what he's doing. Tom Talk 21:25, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE: 3 ThingsEdit

They're both blocked. 187 videos... You don't happen to know of a mass deletion tool do you? 

A Myths Wiki admin complained about Sasquatch to me, so I'll see if that issue is resolved before unblocking him. 

Thanks for letting me know. Tom Talk 16:38, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I Need Your OpinionEdit

Hey McJeff. Can you answer this question I have? It is okay on Wikia for other users to make fun of and laugh (joking or not joking) of users? Would that be considered cyberbulling? I asked you because I feel you would know the answer and you are a very wise person when it comes to Wikia and how it works. Thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 00:19, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

It's probably not okay, but you'll have to give me more information about what's going on before I can really answer. Who's saying what about who? Jeff (talk·stalk) 01:05, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
It's not here. It's on another wiki that I'm a rollback on and this user and another user who joined cyberbullied me, and one admin believed it was okay for them to "troll" and make fun of me. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 02:17, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
If an administrator of another wiki is openly encouraging other users to mistreat you, the thing to do is use Special:Contact on THAT wiki and explain to Wikia Staff. If you'd tell me which wiki and what happened, I might be able to give better advice.
The thing is, Wikia doesn't usually get involved when the problem with a wiki is incivility/"cyberbullying" by staff or general incompetence on the part of a wiki's staff. There's a couple wikis on Wikia that I would contribute to but don't because of unpleasant staff. It's just the way Wikia is. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
So honestly, say a staff member on any of the wikis you edit on, including here, gets insulted by a regular user or group of users and the admins think it is funny. How would you handle that situation cause that's what I had to put up with on another wiki that I'm a rollback user on. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 04:18, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
I've asked twice for you to tell me which wiki this is taking place on. Jeff (talk·stalk) 15:54, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't notice you were asking me that. It's on the Watch Dogs Wiki. I was cyber bullied or made fun of on a chat though. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:02, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
In chat? That makes it tougher to deal with because if it's on the wiki, you can prove it via 'difs' and complain to Community Central.
If you don't have proof, the only thing you can do is tell a bureaucrat and hope he listens. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:10, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
That's the problem. The bureaucrats were in the chat, and one of them found it funny that these two users were making fun of me when they should have been blocked. Plus, they disrespected me, and other staff and users. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:24, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
Well, I'm sorry I can't give you an answer that doesn't suck, but if that's the situation there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. I suggest not editing on that wiki anymore. Remember that someone being a bureaucrat doesn't automatically mean they know what they're doing - any newb with an idea for a new wiki can become a bureaucrat and some of them don't know how to edit or treat their users right. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:49, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
Don't feel bad. I really appreciate you helping me out with the situation. Best thing to do is to forget it and just do what I have to do there as a rollback. Thanks a lot for your help McJeff! See you around soon! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:53, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Stepping Down?Edit

Any reason why you're stepping down as Bureaucrat? Had no idea. Leon Davis (talk) 04:25, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

It's all on my user page. Jeff (talk·stalk) 15:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

HelpEdit

Hey McJeff. I need your help again, but it's not based on what happened last time. Recently on the Watch Dogs Wiki, I fought a vandal attack that was almost exactly like the one with Insidious, aka JoshuaLeverburg, on this wiki. I remembered that you and Wikia were trying to create these abuse filters to automatically block vandals so I have two questions. Do those filters still work on this wiki? Also, if so, is there a way to add them to the Watch Dogs Wiki? Thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:10, June 17, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

To use vandalism filters, you have to have Wikia staff activate them - they're turned off by default. My recommendation is to use http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact and explain to them the kind of vandalism you're dealing with. Since that editor likes to create useless pages, you may ask Wikia if they will disable page creation for "new and unregistered" editors. Ask them to enable the "default anti-vandalism filters" too. Be sure to link them to this thread so they can see the vandal's threats in its own words. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

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