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==Out of town==
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==RFP==
I'll be in West Virginia for a week, maybe more. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:27, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, I've made an [[GTA_Wiki:Requests_for_Promotion#Smurfynz_-_Patroller|RFP]], can you please swing by and vote. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 23:51, January 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I'm still in WV and will be for at least another week, maybe more. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:30, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
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==People leaving==
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I had to agree with everything you said in your profile, I love the GTA series, but I think, honestly, users should have a higher knowledge about the series before thinking about being a staff member, you can see, many users left because they simply love GTA SA and they hate GTA V, if you ask them how many GTA games they have played, they'll only say GTA SA and GTA V (and probaly GTA IV too), I for an example, have played all the GTA games except GTA London and GTA Advance, there are some users like me in the wiki, such as 558050 and WildBrick142, they have played all games, IMO to be a staff member, the users should play at least five GTA games, to be exact: Vice City, San Andreas, IV, Ballad of Gay Tony and GTA V. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] <small>([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]])</small> 23:05, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Help==
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:Well said Jeff. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 23:08, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
any kind of good help would u do for me[[User:Hadisa16|Hadisa16]] ([[User talk:Hadisa16|talk]]) 05:28, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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::Yeah, I don't really like how people call themselves "GTA experts" if they have only played 1 or 2 games. Unless they have read the Wiki heaps, knowing everything about SA doesn't meant you know everything about GTA in general. <span style="color:green;">[[User:LegenDove]]</span> 14:39, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
:What do you want help with? <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 13:05, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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==People Leaving==
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I was talking exactly about this with AndreEagle17 a few days ago (we talk in portuguese, so I guess none of you understood), people losing interest in the wikia or GTA. I also believe that is something perfectly normal, checking the profile of some of the ex-members of the staff I noticed how many people were demoted because of inactive, so all happening is not something new for the GTA wikia.
   
==Correct==
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:I don't know if theres any way to avoid promoting people that will lose interest in GTA after a while, I even sugested to AndreEagle17 to raise from 2 to 6 months the amound of time that someone needs to be on the wikia to become a patroller. Thats because, if someone joins the wikia after buying GTA V and he is only playing the game because of the hype and not because he is a true fan of the series, he probably will have already lost interest in the game after 6 months if not less, so we don't run the risk of promoting someone that will leave the wikia after just a couple of months, like the recent case of RainingPain. It's not 100% secure of course, but I guess it could help. --[[User:558050|558050]] ([[User talk:558050|talk]]) 23:41, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi Jeff, I want to know , what are the things that I didn't follow the GTA Wiki rules in it so I can correct my mistakes.[[User:Kingrhem|Kingrhem]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|talk]]) 20:19, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Out of interest ==
   
==About the block==
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Are you interested on coming back on the team as a patroller or administrator? [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 18:09, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Why I was blocked for responding to jbanton's unprovoked pissy comment? I left my first opinion and then was belittled with "do some research" and:
 
   
" a view that indicates little research done before speaking. I suggest people do some research before voting if they wish to agree with this statemnt."
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:Not really, I don't edit enough. I'd come back as a bureaucrat with the understanding that I'd step down once we had a third person ready to promote because staffing and running a wiki is what I'm good at, but I don't really edit content hardly ever and that means I don't have any business being a patroller or admin. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:20, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
He has some sort of issue with me, and I have done nothing to him. If that is how he picks apart everyone then he does not have the temperment to be an admin. I called him insecure for his uncalled for attack on me, and then was met with a 3 day block, (thanks for just one) but he started it. I don't go around looking for fights. In fact me and Dodo have gotten past are conflict and have no problems now. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 02:22, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
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::"I'd come back as a bureaucrat" That's great to hear. I had been reading and trying to gauge whether it would be worth asking you to "step into the breach" temporarily but thought you felt bound by the "no take-backs" agreement you had with the others. I'd say if Dan and Vaultboy Tom agree, you should be in without needing any election. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 20:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I was less than happy with JBanton's comment that he's been "tempted to take a dark route", but if you see a fight brewing between you and another user it's best to talk to one of the bureaucrats instead of just laying into him. Can you tell me how all this started? I'm on my way to bed but I'll try to get the problems sorted between the two of you tomorrow. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:04, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I am cool with you coming back as a temporary bureaucrat until we found a third person to take over the position permanently. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:48, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Community Noticeboard==
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::::Well, no take-backs is a rule so I guess I'll file a request for promotion on the Promotion board then. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:49, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Check out the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard]].  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 03:59, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Archiving the Noticeboard==
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:::::Sure go ahead. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:51, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, I was thinking after we get Boomer8's purposal finalized, I should archive the community noticeboard because the page is large and up to 10,000 size in bytes.
 
   
[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 15:47, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
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::::::It's up. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:56, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Libel==
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:::::::I sent you two emails. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 21:07, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Hey Jeff. I created the [[Libel]] page without knowing there's already a page about it ([[LibEl]]). I added the content from the original page to the second one and improved it. I think [[LibEl]] should be deleted because is not abbreviated as '''LibEl''', but simply '''Libel'' (see the logo).
 
   
[[File:Libel-GTAIV.png|200px]]
 
   
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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== RfP ==
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Can you vote at requests for promotion. --[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 22:34, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
:No worries, I'll just redirect it. Redirecting's often better than deleting. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:06, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
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==Congratulations==
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Congratulations on re-gaining your Bureaucratic rights. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 18:34, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
::Ok, thanks. :) <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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== Chat ==
   
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Can you get in chat? [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:08, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
== RE: Delete ==
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:Yeah, hang on a sec. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:09, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi, sorry about that. I'll make sure I will just add the template at the top for the future. Ciao :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 15:55, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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==Meatpuppetry==
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Jeff, could you explain why Boomer's vote was removed and what is "meatpuppetry"? ex: [http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Requests_for_Promotion?diff=742505&oldid=742494 This] [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 19:45, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Gurning Chimps page==
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:Per our policy [[GTA_Wiki:Meatpuppetry]], it is against the rules for editors to edit on this wiki soley to support or advance the agenda of another editor. Boomer hasn't made any edits to GTA Wiki since he left in May 2014 that didn't directly involve trying to help Sasquatch101 in some way or other. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:50, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edit on the Gurning Chimps page? VEO15's info is wrong.
 
   
[[User:Gurning Chimp|Gurning Chimp]] ([[User talk:Gurning Chimp|talk]]) 16:09, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:: Okay, now I understand, should a user edit on a wiki only to fill another user's agenda, he is violating the policy, I think this is fair, thanks. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 19:55, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
==There Needs to Rename One Page==
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==RfP==
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I have no clue what makes you think that you can take my vote down and say I'm prohibited from voting. Sorry pal, but I've been contributing to this wiki for around 3 years, and I'll be dammed that I won't have a say in this wiki's future. I know you hate it when you don't get your way, but that doesn't mean you can twist the rules in your own favor. [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 19:59, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
<span style="line-height:20px;">I think [[Carl Johnson's father|this]] page should be renamed to '''Mr. Johnson''' 'cause the page 'bout [[Mr. Cipriani|Toni Cipriani's father]] ain't called '''Toni Cipriani's father''', it's called '''Mr. Cipriani'''. So I think there needs to do the same with this page.</span> [[User:Povke|povke]] ([[User talk:Povke|talk]]) 18:06, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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==About Sasquatch101==
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I told this already in the [[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion|RfP]] page, but I will say to you again. Doesn't all this '''Yes (with conditions)''' already show that we are not ready to accept Sasquatch as part of the staff yet? You can't vote '''Yes''' for someone and still need to remind him of basic things to do like, be active and polite. If all this people who voted '''Yes''' doesn't trust the guy to do this little things, how he can be a fully patroler then? For me, this entire voting should be already finished. Do you honestly trust Sasquatch to handle this position? Do you believe that if another major vandal attack like the one before happens again, he will not do all that clusterfuck again? Because the only people that I believe would answer Yes to both of this questions, are Sasquatch puppets, and I know what you already think about then. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:54, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I think it's fine where it is, but you can feel free to start a rename proposal on the article's talk page. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 23:28, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:For the record, I'm not saying that the guy can never become a patroller ever again. If he behaves like an active and polite regular user here for some time, I'm wiling to vote Yes for him. But the fact that he vanished for so many time, and when he finally appears again, is to apply himself to be an admin, and then apply to be a patroller like if nothing had happened, only bothers me even more. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:58, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Userbox==
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::I don't agree that the Yes WIth Conditions thing is a good idea - if anything I think it's unfair to the person with the job to have a stigma of having it hanging over their head like that. In my opinion either we trust someone enough to promote them, or we don't. Like I said, my big worry is that Sasquatch can't handle his temper when he's pressed enough. He'll be a model editor for a year straight and then flip out unexpectedly. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 21:03, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, I saw in your profile the userbox "This user doesn't believe in any GTA Myths" , however I liked the userbox ( as I don't believe too ) and I would ask you where I can find it, because I didn't found in the category. Thanks
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 16:35, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:I "hard-coded" it into my page. I'll make a template out of it, just gimme a minute or two to remember how. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 17:13, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Exactly, this stigma is bad for the person being promoted and the person who voted. Anyway, I just can't picture Sasquatch handling things very well for too long, wherever I think of him, the first think that pops into my mind is this incredibly [[User_blog:Sasquatch101/Why_San_Fierro_is_better_than_Los_Santos_in_real_life.#comm-112589|childish complain]] that he had against GTA V. I don't know why. It was the first time that I talked with him and I guess it sticked with me. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 21:19, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
::OK, you can add it to your userpage with <nowiki>{{Userbox:NoMyths}}</nowiki>. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 23:19, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Sasquatch will fail probation I think. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 21:21, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Rename==
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:::::I see that you blocked Boomer8 permanently, I can't even imagine how well he must be taking that. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 21:26, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, there is a page with wrong name. The page is [[:Category:Westen Company Vehicles|Westen Company Vehicles]], it's need to be renamed to Category: Western Company Vehicles. [[User:Kingrhem|Kingrhem]] <sup>[[User_talk:Kingrhem|talk]]</sup> 12:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== A Particular User... ==
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::::::This happens every single time with Boomer. I actually think Sasquatch would do much better without Boomer always in his ear assuring him that he's perfect and stridently attacking anyone who suggests otherwise. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 21:30, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hey, Jeff, I should warn you about a particular user: [[User:Povke]].
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:::::::He really does that every time? Jesus. I wonder how this devotion for Sasquatch even started, I mean, theres friendship, but this is already starting to become weird. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 21:37, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
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===He's Active?===
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I disagree. Apart from the RfP and community noticeboard, the only activity since early November has been to reinstate links to the Myths wiki over the last cuple of days which I would argue serve the Myths wiki more than they served this wiki. The September/November contributions wouild be less than what the demoted (inactive) guys had been doing in the last 4 months. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 01:55, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:I've thought this over for a few hours and I think we should leave Myth hunter's vote up. If we're fanatical about meatpuppetry, there's going to be an Incident any time two guys who generally agree on things take the same side on an issue. I'd rather not bring it into consideration unless the editor in question is behaving really disruptively. That's the difference between Boomer/Sasquatch and any other set of editors who are friends. Myth hunter may be a friend and supporter of Sasquatch but he doesn't go around insulting the entire community for not worshipping him. I didn't realize that the only thing Myth hunter was doing was adding links to Myths Wiki though - that does change how I feel about him being here and voting on things a bit. Just not enough that I want to go around telling him he can't vote - telling people they can't vote should be a last-ditch thing to prevent disruption. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:17, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::No, I was talking about Sasquatch's activity or lack thereof. He's the one that hasn't been contributing at all in terms of eligibility for promotion. MythHunter has been a little more consistently adding a couple of relevant edits a month, similar to the rate we were declaring the staff inactive, but not rated as completely inactive for a user by any means. Certainly not to the extent that would give rise to accusations of meatpuppetry and he should still be considered an eligible voter. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 04:28, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::My fault, was reading on mobile and missing what was replying to what. Back home now though. My point on sasquatch's eligibility for promotion remains though. [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 04:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC) 
   
About seven months ago, this user operated on two accounts: accounts [[User:Povilas Povke]] and [[User:Povke PK]]. What he used to do that he would edit on his Povke PK, then switch to Povilas Povke then he would revert all of his PPK's edits and vice versa. If I can recall Ilan or Tom blocked both of his accounts for this. He came back under new accounts, such as [[User:PK LT EU|this]] [[User:PK LT|this]], and [[User:PK=Povke|this]], whick are all blocked.
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::::::I agree. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 05:16, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
I suggest we block him, but because he only made five edits and they're not negative, let's just keep a sharp eye on his actions.
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== New admin ==
   
Out,
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I think we should knuckle down soon and start recruiting a new administrator. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 10:29, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 02:56, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:I noticed that no one explained to him that multiple accounts were against the rules, so I left a very clear, very stern explanation on his talk page. I don't really expect him to listen to it (since he should've known he was doing something wrong when his other accounts kept getting blocked), but sometimes it pays to have good faith, and sometimes it's best to warn before punishing because if you don't malcontents whine about "corruption" and "abuse of power" and other such nonsense. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:24, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:Trouble with this is that most of the patrollers have only been promoted this month. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:15, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::Understood. At first, I saw two accounts named almost the same. I didn't mind it, but when I saw what he was doing, I was about to tell an admin or a bureaucrat, but I saw Ilan blocking him immediately. His edits and undos on his accounts proved his blocking reasons, then he kept on coming back. Now that he hasn't done anything bad and he knows about the multiple accounts rule when/if he reads your warning, it's best to not worry about him/her/it.
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::Yeah, I don't want to promote an underqualified admin. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:19, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::[[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 23:41, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Neither do I. The longest serving patroller is Cloudkit I think. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:20, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
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::::How's he been doing at controlling his temper? I know that was sometimes an issue with him back in the day. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:21, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
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:::::I think he is okay with it now. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:22, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Community Noticeboard problem==
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::::::He didn't vote or participate in any of the recent promotion requests, but he is active. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:31, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
*Hi Jeff, I'm trying to write my new article (idea) in the community noticeboard but I can't change to the source mode. What happened and what I need to do?
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 08:09, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
No more problem, now it's resolved.
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:::::::I am thinking probation for him if he ever does decide to apply for adminship. Mind you, I personally think we should do that for new staff members. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:32, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 20:34, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==[[Fruit Computers]]==
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::::::::I'd probably vote for him if he ran, but I'm not going to ask anyone to run. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:36, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jeff. I was thinking that we should separate the Fruit Computers page in to 2 different ones (3D Universe & HD Universe). They have many products in both universes and it might be hard for readers to understand that.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
:I will go forward and do it.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
== 2 photos need deleting ==
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:::::::::Neither am I. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:49, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hey Jeff, could you delete [http://gta.wikia.com/File:Apc_tankgta5.png this photo] and [http://gta.wikia.com/File:WTF_ROCKSTAR.png this photo] , as they are both fake.. Ciao [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 08:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
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==Rename==
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Hey Jeff. Could tou rename this [[The Hater (GTA IV)|page]]? Theres no other "hater" in the series, so I don't know why they put this name in the page. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#FF6600">'''DLVIIIL'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 19:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
==Watch Dogs Affiliation==
 
I just checked the community noticeboard and saw that the Watch Dogs Wiki affiliation request failed on account of not getting a 70% vote in favor. The Watch Dogs Wiki logo though is still in the Affiliates section on the main page; so in it probably should be removed. I'm just saying this because I know you're busy much of the time and may not notice. Anyways talk to you soon. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Boomer's block==
 
Hi. I heard about Boomer's block. I don't know how to tell you but... Ilan told me a while ago about what a good editor Winter Moon was. I'm not defending Boomer, but he was quite right in that post. You should encourage Winter Moon to be more active.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:BTW, you forgot to add a punctuation sign after "by their request" on the Policy page. I would do it myself but is locked.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::I didn't block Boomer for thinking Winter Moon ought to be demoted for being inactive, I blocked him for personal attacks. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:24, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::Agreed with that. Boomer should have said it kindly, since Winter Moon never said bad things about Boomer. BTW, I think I should stop talking about Winter's demotion. I don't want it to look like I'm saying it because I want to get promoted. :( About that, no matter if WM is demoted or not, do you think I could apply sometime soon? I should ask the other bureaucrats too, though.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::Once the current dustup settles I plan to propose raising the staff limit by 1. Like I said before, if GTAV comes out and Winter Moon is still barely active, then maybe Messi and myself will be more inclined to support demoting him. And when someone proposed raising the admin limit by 5, there were some good points made that even if raising it by 5 was too many, 1 or 2 might be good. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Demotion alternative==
 
:If Winter Moon is demoted, you may apply. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 18:55, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::Hey Jeff. I left a possible alternative to the wintermoon demotion issue. I don't want to get back into it so I just want to let you know its in the comments section of the demotion request. But just for the record, I can apply for admin if wintermoon is demoted right? Once again my whole ideaology is explained in the comments and I think it is at this point the best way to deal with a possible demotion. Thanks, [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:05, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::If Winter Moon is demoted I think the best option would be a Admin-Bureaucrat only vote. There are many patrollers who want to be promoted, and I consider the patrollers will only care about their requests. But for '''now''', Winter Moon '''is not''' demoted, so let's not speculate.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::Hmmm, so what about now? Anyways...<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:::::Hey Jeff. Do you like soccer? If so, who's your favorite player?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::::::Only sport I watch is NFL. I used to watch a bit of soccer, but my home team (Baltimore Blast) folded and I quit. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:40, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::::::Yes, it's a bad thing when your team foldes. It makes you feel you don't like that sport anymore, anyways.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
==Demotion Deleted?==
 
Hey Jeff. I just came on tonight and saw that you took down the wintermoon demotion vote. I saw what boomer said and I aggree with you, but after you rightfully filtered the request, why would you remove it? I have no beef with WM. I respect the fact that he is a senior editor here and has done many worthy contributions. Boomers request was not exactly what I would have proposed. So with your blessing, could I craft a proper and respectful alternative to a demotion of wintermoon. It is no secret that I would love to be a possible candidate for admin, but this isn't about that. Wintermoon's situation could be handaled in a way that won't make him feel disrespected, but also allow growth for the wiki. I hope you'll agree to my proposition as I would like to have you and others see my proposal before you make up your mind. Thankyou[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:46, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Can you wait about a week? Messi, Tom and I have to have a talk, and there's something else going on that I have to hear back from Wikia Central about. Like I kept on saying, I'm not opposed to demoting Winter Moon if that's what the community thinks is right, but the prior discussion was turning into a mess of ideas that need to be considered individually and not in the context of demoting someone. I now think we ought to gain community consensus on how to deal with "just barely active" administrators before we vote on demoting Winter Moon. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:56, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I wonder, does Winter Moon even knows that he's up for demotion? <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
::Yeah Jeff, sure I'll wait a week or so. Also I think it is a great idea to persue a community vote regarding activity requirements. Anyways thanks for being open minded to what my viewpoint is and I hope that this dilemma can be resolved in a way that will be best for the wiki. Thanks. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:41, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I think it should be like Dodo said in the previous session, if WM is demoted, the next admin should be a decision from the Admins/Bureaucrats, because every patroller want to get promoted and it wouldn't be normal 7 requests in the [[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion|page]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 09:54, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Vandal Report==
 
Hi Jeff. This [[User:Sean.drew.535i|user]] is screwing up vehicle page by adding info that is not accurate, and this [[User:Danny Gracyne|one]] edited the Community page changing some votes from polls.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
:BTW, would you mind to vote on the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard|Flag request]]?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
==Hey Jeff==
 
Hey Jey. I just wanted you to know that I am going to submit my request regaurding Wintermoon on the community noticeboard tonight. We spoke last week and you said it would be ok if I wait a week or so before any requests are filed. I just want to let you know first hand because I am doing this with the utmost respect for Wintermoon. At the end of the day I respect the work he has done, and only want that tradition of excellence to continue strongly. Thankyou for your consideration. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:20, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Vote==
 
I just finished the filing the request. Could you [http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard#Request_that_Wintermoon_be_demoted_to_Patroller vote] on it. Thanks. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:12, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==The request fails==
 
Hey Jeff. The demotion of Wintermoon looks dead. I know he has done nothing wrong but I dont think he even cares about being an admin anymore. Could there be a new section with part-time admins in the GTA Wiki Staff? I'm just thinking out loud. I respect the communitys decision and will not push anymore. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:09, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:The vote's going to run for the official amount of time, through the 11th. After it closes I'll think about what to do. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:28, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Understood. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:51, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I don't mind putting him as a part time admin as you can add me as a part time B'crat as apart from personnel related tasks, I have no real plans to edit fully until V is out. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:24, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== "70% no" ==
 
 
On the current controversial noticeboard topic it says a 70% no vote would achieve demotion, but surely voting against the motion would lead to the motion not being carried? (meaning no demotion) Shouldn't it be 70% in favour that leads to the motion being carried?
 
 
Either way, the motion has quite clearly failed. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 11:31, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Danny Tamberelli page==
 
Hey Jeff, I made a new page call [[Danny Tamberelli]], I want to upload a image of him, but I only found the image of him on Wikipedia page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Tamberelli him], would it be okay if I do that Jeff, let me know okay, so thanks. [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 14:40, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==RE:==
 
I have just gotten your message and I just want to let you know I'll drop the whole Winter Moon demotion thing since it failed. I'm done with the whole monotony of this dicussion. But I still do think something has to happen so more active patrollers can have a shot for a fair request to become an admin.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 02:03, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:Hmmm, well, I'm fine about it. Dan told me WM logged on recently, and he also responded to his message. If he would atleast participate on the Community Noticeboard from time to time there would be no reason to have him demoted. I also totally agree with the decision. About the "shot" Boomer is talking about, I think we should organize a request on the Community Noticeboard for adding more Staff, but that's not urgent. And after what happened with WM's demotion I don't think anyone wants it too soon. I don't want it either.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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==Admin==
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Hey Jeff, I was just checking your conversation with Dan, well, I think we need another admin but not right now, and I would say that the most qualified patroller is [[User:Smurfynz|Smurfynz]], but he just got promoted this month, I say give him a year or less and maybe he send a promotion request. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 20:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Heads up==
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== FYI ==
Hey, Jeff. Some bonehead [[User:ISlate]] is running around deleting things from pages and adding garbage like "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOlol" etc. etc.
 
   
Take care, man. [[User:HebbyDGouchemen|<font color="purple">HebbyDGouchemen</font>]] [[User_talk:HebbyDGouchemen|('''talk here''')]] 14:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
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Left you a few more emails. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 09:53, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Hey Jeff==
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==My Inactivity==
I was just going through my old talk page messages, and when I got to the end I can honestly say I feel like my reputation means shit on this wiki. It was just last March when I applied for admin, and even though it failed, Messi, Mikey, and Thomas all said they would vote yes in my next request. Then Dodo and I had our run in; and after that everyone has lost respect for me. Now there are admin limits, everyone has lost faith in me and overall I have a VERY unlikely chance at becoming an admin. No BS, do you think I'll ever become an admin? I have created a page for every street in GTA IV w/ cross street discriptions. Plus countless other edits that are of quality. Why does the overall staff not want be to become an admin? I just feel that the staff won't ever give me a chance. I don't know. Whats done is now done and I have to live with it. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, Jeff. Long time, no speak. Listen, I apologize for my inactivity and my demotion. It's that I've been busy with school and I haven't had Internet in my home for a few months. And yeah, three edits for January isn't enough. Once I get Internet ("hopefully" by next month), I can retain my moderator position.
   
:I'm going to apologize in advance for this comment, because it's mean spirited and it's going to offend some people, but it has to be put out here.
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--'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''<small>([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talker]]</small>''' * <small>[[User blog:Tony_1998|Blogger]] * </small> '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Stalker]])</small>'''-- 20:28, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
:There's a real maturity issue going on here with the staff and some of the patrollers especially. I've always stood up for people's rights to have opinions, I helped the Winter Moon demotion issue move along, and all I get is accusations that I've got some sleazy motivation to protect him. The motion wasn't popular, it didn't come close to passing, and frankly, when the few people who voted in favor of the demotion then go high five each other and celebrate how awesome they are for "standing up to the bureaucrats", it's damned obnoxious. People don't seem to know the difference between "adding content" and "adding unnecessary and redundant categories to everything". People are using these friends lists to form cliques and get back at each other over disagreements by removing each other from them. Boomer and Dodo acted so aggressive and suspicious during the initial demotion request against WM that Messi asked Wikia to run a checkuser on them because we thought they might be the same person. I blocked Thomas and undid it 15 minutes later, but Thomas's English is so poor that he didn't understand me when I told him he was unblocked, both he and Boomer are inches away from having demotion requests filed against them.
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:You didn't get demoted from patroller, you just got moved to inactive. The wiki's rule says that we don't demote patrollers for inactivity and admins/bureaucrats who go inactive only get demoted to patroller, but the patrollers don't seem to understand that and keep filing demotion requests. If I'd been a bureaucrat at the time I'd have deleted the demotion and just moved you to inactive. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 20:30, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:::What? There was a '''single''' "inactive/demote" discussion and it was raised because all 5 had made enough irregular edits to avoid the automatic 3 month inactivity timer so couldn't really just be made inactive without discussion. Most of the patrollers and editors seem to have correctly understood that Tony would just be moved to inactive in accordance with the rule. In fact, 2 of the votes to [[GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_6#Tony_1998|'''demote '''Tony]] came from the two Bureaucrats. Leo and I had to [[User_talk:Messi1983/Archive_10#Demotion_2|remind Dan]] that all inactive staff should have retained Patroller rights unless they resigned. Before you fire "lack of understanding" shots, maybe you should check your aim.  [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 00:52, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
:And I'm just disgusted with the wiki right now and completely not in the mood to edit, let alone try and make policy proposals to let people run for administrator positions, especially since I'd be voting 'no' on just about any RfA anyway.
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==Bureaucrat==
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I spoke recently to Dan about becoming a Bureaucrat to fill the empty space you are temporarily occupying. I will consider Bureaucrat later in the year because I have bureaucratic rights on another site. For now I'd like to adjust to admin and see how I handle it. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 00:18, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I strongly suggest you and all the other patrollers drop the subject of admins for a long while, and by 'long while' I mean 'until GTA5 comes out and we see what kind of vandalism load we're dealing with'.
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==Rule change vote needed==
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Please see [[GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard#Patroller_to_Administrator_Qualification_Criteria|my post on the community noticeboard]] requiring Bureaucrat/Admin voting. Thanks [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 01:48, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
:You can feel free to talk to Messi or Tom and see if they're feeling any more sympathetic to admin-hopefuls than I am. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 08:00, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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==Myths Wiki Links==
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Hey McJeff. Why are you removing the links from the GTA Myths Wiki. On the Community Noticeboard, we agreed to have it once again as an affiliate of the wiki. I recently saw what happened with Boomer8, if that's the reason why you are removing the links, but I think removal of the wiki as an affiliate should be discussed with Sasquatch101 and MythHunter. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:21, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
::Yes, I was supporting WM's demotion because he didn't edited for one month, but sincerely I was not doing it to get promoted. Right now I don't want to. I just realised a few days ago that I blame you for my mistake of having a bad behaviour. Sincerely it would be better for all of us to remain a patroller, school year is starting and we have to learn a lot for the exams that will decide our highschool. I won't have time to visit the wiki too much. You can go on with the checkuser thing, convince yourself I'm not lying. Shit.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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:It just wasn't relevant to that particular article. Sorry for forgetting to use an edit summary. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 01:35, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::The checkuser was completed weeks ago, it proved you and Boomer innocent. If it hadn't, you'd both be banned. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 14:50, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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:It's okay, it happens. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:59, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
::::Ok, can we stop this WM demotion/patroller promotion thing? It's getting annoying. And Sasquatch, don't be so offensed, I'm agreed with McJeff that most of your edits are adding categories and adding pages that have nothing to do with GTA (PS4, Xbox One), awful grammar also (Cemetarys). And let me remind you that I only said that you weren't prepared for the job, then you continued the fight after I stopped. Let's drop the stick. I will.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
::::Dodo why are you jummping on me about BS grammatical errors that are one in a thousand. Not to mention your grammar isn't that pretty neither; I just don't see the need in needling someone over it. I don't want to get into it with you Dodo, I was talking to Jeff first.
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== Reply ==
:::::Jeff, why is it that I am so disliked by just about everyone? If you think I shouldn't be an admin based on the edits I have made then that is just not true. I make quality articles (every street in GTA 4). I don't just add pointless categories like male/female categories that everyone has jumped on. So Jeff I'll leave it at that, because I won't be distracted from my patrolled duties by the hopes of being an admin anymore. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 18:30, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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The promotion went as expected and that's fine. The whole situation that happened with Boomer though seems to be a little harsh. From what I read Boomer said no personal insults towards Messi and was just having an argument. I mean debate is healthy and good for anything (i.e. wikis, democracies, ect.) and I saw no indication that Boomer crossed a line and became hostile. I think Boomer just felt that he was being excluded from voting based on your and Messis' view that he is a meatpuppet. I can say that he speaks with a lot of passion and does generally agree with me as we have been editing together for over a couple years. He was very loyal to me during the whole Myths wiki fiasco that went down during the Gunshow2 incident. You know how crazy that was and I very much appreciate your help on that. Me and Boomer have a lot of history, we both love myths and I can say that he is a loyal, trustworthy editor and would be a great person to have here on the GTA Wiki.
   
::::::[[File:No War-Not GTA Related.jpg|200px]]<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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Thanks,
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--[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:44, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
   
::::::I hate to intervene into your conversation, but since my name got brought up I guess I'll chime in. Jeff you're obvoiusly holding some grudge against me and I don't know why. I have already messaged you so we can to move on from the WM thing and have not brought anything relating to that subject up since then. Now you're contemplating demoting me! You should take your own advice: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:STICK Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass]. I am offended that Messi had to ask Wikia to have a checkuser test done on Dodo and I. We are both great contributors and for him to take it to that level is disgraceful. Please don't talk behind my back; if you have something to say, say it to my face.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 06:09, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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==Image Policy for personal pages/sandboxes==
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Hey Jeff, I was watching a discussion right now and it was a case similar to mines (which happened some time ago), the thing is:
   
::::::::There is nothing disgraceful about asking for a checkuser to make sure that two users are not the same. When two users have the number 8 at the end of their name, agree with each other nearly all of the time, then I had to make sure that you two were not sockpuppets. There is nothing disgraceful about checking that. I was doing it for the good of the wiki, cause we cannot have sockpuppets on here. Being a patroller who abides by our rules, even you should understand that. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:33, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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My friend [[User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188]] added pictures to his personal page and his sandbox and he still received a warning for image policy, but [[User:RainingPain17|RainingPain17]] gave him an advice, which was to talk to you about this, as I had the same problem, I should ask, do we really need to add licenses to our personal pages/sandboxes? Why? [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]) 21:33, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Horses in GTA V ==
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:Image policy gets weird sometimes. If it's a picture for personal use, you can always just upload it and ask a b'crat or another knowledgeable editor to add an appropriate license afterwards. I'll take a look at the picture in question now. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 22:49, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
* Will there be Horses in the game
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== Rename page ==
*Will you be able to ride them. [[User:Owen1983|Owen1983]] ([[User talk:Owen1983|talk]]) 09:28, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Hi, Jeff. Could you please rename [[Dropping In...|this page]] (by what I said in the [[Talk:Dropping In...|talk page]])? Thanks. --{{SUBST:Usuario:Platybus/Firma2}} 04:15, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
#We don't know. Only dogs and deers were shown.
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Hello McJeff. I was just playing through GTA V again(the PS3 version, yeah I know I'm a hipster or something I just can't afford a PS4 atm, anyway), I got passed Meltdown, I felt like switching to Trevor and he was in his underwear, and I decided to go to his safehouse in Sandy Shores to change, and I found Michael chilling in the seat outside the trailer. I have a photo for proof but that's all I got. I was wondering if this information could go anywhere, I mean it if's worthy of going anywhere. If it doesn't I totally understand. Please reply back when you can. [[User:Jim Logan|We are Diamond Dogs]] ([[User talk:Jim Logan|talk]]) 05:02, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
#Again, we don't know.
 
   
:-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 14:29, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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==[[User:Nicky.haugh|Fanfiction]]==
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Thanks for that, I was wary of being accused of picking on the guy, so I thought I'd give him one opportunity to fix it himself.  [[User:Smurfynz|smurfy]] <sup><small><small>([[User_talk:Smurfynz|coms]])</small></small></sup> 23:52, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
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:You weren't picking on him Smurf, you were following the policy. His edits were borderline vandalism and he put a "spoiler" tag on his personal page, so it was right that they were being undone/changed. [[User:SJWalker|SJWalker]] ([[User talk:SJWalker|talk]]) 00:10, February 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Boomer8 ==
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==GTA London 1961 characters page==
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Hello there McJeff. I've recently done a lot of work on the GTA London 1961 character page, since it was just a copy of the article for characters in GTA London 1969, which is incorrect as they feature mostly different (minor) characters. I see that you have undone my edits, may I respectfully ask why this has been done? [[User:Darth crucifious|Darth crucifious]] ([[User talk:Darth crucifious|talk]]) 12:40, February 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
I blocked Boomer for a week for bad attitude. It is bad attitude to deem my checkuser as disgraceful, saying I stooped to another level and this "Please don't talk behind my back; if you have something to say, say it to my face.". If you wish to overturn the block, go ahead, but I suggest he has a week out to reflect and think. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 06:56, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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==Your opinion==
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http://gta.wikia.com/Faggio?action=history
   
:A week is exactly what our policy said he should get. His first block was for a day. His comment to me, he didn't get blocked for but it was made very clear to him that it was a blockable comment, that would've been 3 days. And so his third offense is for a week. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:45, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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There is an ongoing edit war over the number of gears of the article. One [[User:WildBrick142|user]] says that it has three gears according to the game files. [[User:AndreEagle17|Two]] [[User:Monkeypolice188|others]] disagree with it due to the lack of gear changing sound in the game itself.
   
==[[Hot Dog Homicide]]==
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Since it seems the issue is not about to be resolved yet, I thought it would be better to have your opinion about it. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 21:08, February 20, 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this one. What if "Homocide" was a pun on words? Someone should check it. I'd do but I never played GTA III and I don't own it.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
:I looked it up on Youtube, it's spelled with an I. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 19:55, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
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:Don't worry, get someone to lock the page, i have removed all of it anyway [[File:MONKEYPOLICE188.png|100px|link=User:Monkeypolice188]] ([[User talk:Monkeypolice188|talk]]) | ([[Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|stalk]]) 21:11, February 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
::Ok, thanks for clarifying.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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==Comments==
   
:::Hey, Jeff, wanna talk on the Wiki Chat sometime?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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Dear McJeff, I really like this wiki as I use it a lot to inform myself about the GTA game that I'm about to play. But, can this wikia have comments instead of talk pages? Just a thought. {{unsigned|Angryvideogamebird}}
   
::::Sure. What times are you usually in the chat? <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 17:37, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
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:Sorry, but this wiki voted to keep talk pages. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:58, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::::I'm here most of the day, but I'm not sure. 9-13 AM GMT+0 (I live in GMT+2). If I'll see you online we'll talk. :) <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
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== Help ==
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Hey Jeff. I was just on the GTA Myths Wiki and am shocked at what I saw. remember that user what was rigging votes and causing all those problems, well he is back with multiple accounts and is vandalizing the wiki regularly. He is now uploading new (racist) images that are deleting the ones with the same name. Is there any further protection I can add to the wiki to prevent these attacks? In the mean time I'll just keep a watch out.
   
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--[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Staff page==
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==Gunshow2 detected==
I noted there are two 'Promotion' sections on the Staff page, and they both pretty much the same (although the first section is more detailed than the second section). Should we remove one or keep the two sections as they were? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 16:30, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:GodBlessTheNSDAP|GodBlessTheNSDAP]]. Look at his profile. For me it's a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">stalk</span>]]/[[User blog:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">blog</span>]]) 13:07, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Bot permission ==
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:Yes it is a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. I have blocked him for sockpuppetry. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 15:08, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi! I looked up section about granting users new permissions, but I haven't found anything about bots. I was thinking of performing interwiki action between english gtaWiki and polish one. In wikipedias I had to apply for bot flag (in order not to spam in recent changes). How is it done here? As a bot operator I've got experience on wikia as well as on polish wikipedia as WebmajstrBot (over 5000 edits), so I think that changes commited by my bot won't damage this wiki :) [[User:OzgaBot|OzgaBot]] ([[User talk:OzgaBot|talk]]) 16:17, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Possible Absence notice :( ==
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== RE: ==
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Thanks for the advice. I'll get right on those things. Hopefully this won't be a problem much longer. --[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 05:00, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi there, in about twenty-four hours time I'll be leaving on a five week holiday. I'll not have Wi-Fi access because I would like to save some cash for GTA and a new HDTV. I may still be able to use the internet via mobile, but my access to editing could drop to minimal at best. I'll try do my best while away and then return to business as usual when I return to the UK on 1st September. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 10:30, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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==Found the Source==
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Hey Jeff, long time no speak. Anyway, I believe I have found what someone sent me to be the source of these racist vandals. [http://8ch.net/cow/res/61527.html Check it out] and tell me what you think.
   
==Community Noticeboard==
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==Videos==
Check out my new idea at the [[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard|Community Noticeboard]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 19:53, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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I need your opinion about them [[Forum:What about videos & video policy?|here]]. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ([[User talk:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">stalk</span>]]/[[User blog:AndreEagle17|<span style="color:black">blog</span>]]) 15:17, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Spam ==
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==Leaked Info==
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Keep an eye out. This [[User:ApexReclaimer01|user]] posted a leaked image of the new [[Kuruma]] set to be featured in the [[Heists Update]]. He then set up a [[User:Binhvip2456|second account]] and posted the same image. He has been banned on both accounts. We don't need another sockpuppet. The guy uses random numbers and letters for his titles and the image appears to be in the same image it is outside the La Mesa LSC. If the image appears again before March 10, ban the uploader immediately. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 07:24, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hey Jeff, just to point out that [[User:Coachoutlet01]] is creating spam blogs about random things. Cheers [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 11:33, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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==Edits Vandal==
   
:Looks like Ilan got him. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 15:42, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, a [[User:DomWoody|user]] practically destroyed your userpage, don't worry, he's blocked! [[File:MONKEYPOLICE188.png|100px|link=User:Monkeypolice188]] ([[User talk:Monkeypolice188|talk]]) | ([[Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|stalk]]) 19:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

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RFPEdit

Hey, I've made an RFP, can you please swing by and vote. smurfy (coms) 23:51, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

People leavingEdit

I had to agree with everything you said in your profile, I love the GTA series, but I think, honestly, users should have a higher knowledge about the series before thinking about being a staff member, you can see, many users left because they simply love GTA SA and they hate GTA V, if you ask them how many GTA games they have played, they'll only say GTA SA and GTA V (and probaly GTA IV too), I for an example, have played all the GTA games except GTA London and GTA Advance, there are some users like me in the wiki, such as 558050 and WildBrick142, they have played all games, IMO to be a staff member, the users should play at least five GTA games, to be exact: Vice City, San Andreas, IV, Ballad of Gay Tony and GTA V. Signature (talk) 23:05, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Well said Jeff. Leo68 (talk) 23:08, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't really like how people call themselves "GTA experts" if they have only played 1 or 2 games. Unless they have read the Wiki heaps, knowing everything about SA doesn't meant you know everything about GTA in general. User:LegenDove 14:39, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

People LeavingEdit

I was talking exactly about this with AndreEagle17 a few days ago (we talk in portuguese, so I guess none of you understood), people losing interest in the wikia or GTA. I also believe that is something perfectly normal, checking the profile of some of the ex-members of the staff I noticed how many people were demoted because of inactive, so all happening is not something new for the GTA wikia.

I don't know if theres any way to avoid promoting people that will lose interest in GTA after a while, I even sugested to AndreEagle17 to raise from 2 to 6 months the amound of time that someone needs to be on the wikia to become a patroller. Thats because, if someone joins the wikia after buying GTA V and he is only playing the game because of the hype and not because he is a true fan of the series, he probably will have already lost interest in the game after 6 months if not less, so we don't run the risk of promoting someone that will leave the wikia after just a couple of months, like the recent case of RainingPain. It's not 100% secure of course, but I guess it could help. --558050 (talk) 23:41, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Out of interest Edit

Are you interested on coming back on the team as a patroller or administrator? Messi1983 (talk) 18:09, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Not really, I don't edit enough. I'd come back as a bureaucrat with the understanding that I'd step down once we had a third person ready to promote because staffing and running a wiki is what I'm good at, but I don't really edit content hardly ever and that means I don't have any business being a patroller or admin. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:20, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
"I'd come back as a bureaucrat" That's great to hear. I had been reading and trying to gauge whether it would be worth asking you to "step into the breach" temporarily but thought you felt bound by the "no take-backs" agreement you had with the others. I'd say if Dan and Vaultboy Tom agree, you should be in without needing any election. smurfy (coms) 20:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
I am cool with you coming back as a temporary bureaucrat until we found a third person to take over the position permanently. Messi1983 (talk) 20:48, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Well, no take-backs is a rule so I guess I'll file a request for promotion on the Promotion board then. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:49, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
Sure go ahead. Messi1983 (talk) 20:51, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
It's up. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:56, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
I sent you two emails. Messi1983 (talk) 21:07, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


RfP Edit

Can you vote at requests for promotion. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 22:34, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

CongratulationsEdit

Congratulations on re-gaining your Bureaucratic rights. Leo68 (talk) 18:34, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Can you get in chat? Messi1983 (talk) 19:08, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, hang on a sec. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:09, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

MeatpuppetryEdit

Jeff, could you explain why Boomer's vote was removed and what is "meatpuppetry"? ex: This Signature (talk) 19:45, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Per our policy GTA_Wiki:Meatpuppetry, it is against the rules for editors to edit on this wiki soley to support or advance the agenda of another editor. Boomer hasn't made any edits to GTA Wiki since he left in May 2014 that didn't directly involve trying to help Sasquatch101 in some way or other. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:50, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, now I understand, should a user edit on a wiki only to fill another user's agenda, he is violating the policy, I think this is fair, thanks. Signature (talk) 19:55, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

RfPEdit

I have no clue what makes you think that you can take my vote down and say I'm prohibited from voting. Sorry pal, but I've been contributing to this wiki for around 3 years, and I'll be dammed that I won't have a say in this wiki's future. I know you hate it when you don't get your way, but that doesn't mean you can twist the rules in your own favor. Boomer8 (talk) 19:59, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

About Sasquatch101Edit

I told this already in the RfP page, but I will say to you again. Doesn't all this Yes (with conditions) already show that we are not ready to accept Sasquatch as part of the staff yet? You can't vote Yes for someone and still need to remind him of basic things to do like, be active and polite. If all this people who voted Yes doesn't trust the guy to do this little things, how he can be a fully patroler then? For me, this entire voting should be already finished. Do you honestly trust Sasquatch to handle this position? Do you believe that if another major vandal attack like the one before happens again, he will not do all that clusterfuck again? Because the only people that I believe would answer Yes to both of this questions, are Sasquatch puppets, and I know what you already think about then. DLVIIIL Talk 20:54, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

For the record, I'm not saying that the guy can never become a patroller ever again. If he behaves like an active and polite regular user here for some time, I'm wiling to vote Yes for him. But the fact that he vanished for so many time, and when he finally appears again, is to apply himself to be an admin, and then apply to be a patroller like if nothing had happened, only bothers me even more. DLVIIIL Talk 20:58, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
I don't agree that the Yes WIth Conditions thing is a good idea - if anything I think it's unfair to the person with the job to have a stigma of having it hanging over their head like that. In my opinion either we trust someone enough to promote them, or we don't. Like I said, my big worry is that Sasquatch can't handle his temper when he's pressed enough. He'll be a model editor for a year straight and then flip out unexpectedly. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:03, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Exactly, this stigma is bad for the person being promoted and the person who voted. Anyway, I just can't picture Sasquatch handling things very well for too long, wherever I think of him, the first think that pops into my mind is this incredibly childish complain that he had against GTA V. I don't know why. It was the first time that I talked with him and I guess it sticked with me. DLVIIIL Talk 21:19, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
Sasquatch will fail probation I think. Messi1983 (talk) 21:21, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
I see that you blocked Boomer8 permanently, I can't even imagine how well he must be taking that. DLVIIIL Talk 21:26, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
This happens every single time with Boomer. I actually think Sasquatch would do much better without Boomer always in his ear assuring him that he's perfect and stridently attacking anyone who suggests otherwise. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:30, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
He really does that every time? Jesus. I wonder how this devotion for Sasquatch even started, I mean, theres friendship, but this is already starting to become weird. DLVIIIL Talk 21:37, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

He's Active?Edit

I disagree. Apart from the RfP and community noticeboard, the only activity since early November has been to reinstate links to the Myths wiki over the last cuple of days which I would argue serve the Myths wiki more than they served this wiki. The September/November contributions wouild be less than what the demoted (inactive) guys had been doing in the last 4 months. smurfy (coms) 01:55, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

I've thought this over for a few hours and I think we should leave Myth hunter's vote up. If we're fanatical about meatpuppetry, there's going to be an Incident any time two guys who generally agree on things take the same side on an issue. I'd rather not bring it into consideration unless the editor in question is behaving really disruptively. That's the difference between Boomer/Sasquatch and any other set of editors who are friends. Myth hunter may be a friend and supporter of Sasquatch but he doesn't go around insulting the entire community for not worshipping him. I didn't realize that the only thing Myth hunter was doing was adding links to Myths Wiki though - that does change how I feel about him being here and voting on things a bit. Just not enough that I want to go around telling him he can't vote - telling people they can't vote should be a last-ditch thing to prevent disruption. Jeff (talk·stalk) 04:17, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
No, I was talking about Sasquatch's activity or lack thereof. He's the one that hasn't been contributing at all in terms of eligibility for promotion. MythHunter has been a little more consistently adding a couple of relevant edits a month, similar to the rate we were declaring the staff inactive, but not rated as completely inactive for a user by any means. Certainly not to the extent that would give rise to accusations of meatpuppetry and he should still be considered an eligible voter. smurfy (coms) 04:28, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
My fault, was reading on mobile and missing what was replying to what. Back home now though. My point on sasquatch's eligibility for promotion remains though. smurfy (coms) 04:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC) 
I agree. Jeff (talk·stalk) 05:16, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

New admin Edit

I think we should knuckle down soon and start recruiting a new administrator. Messi1983 (talk) 10:29, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Trouble with this is that most of the patrollers have only been promoted this month. Messi1983 (talk) 19:15, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't want to promote an underqualified admin. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:19, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Neither do I. The longest serving patroller is Cloudkit I think. Messi1983 (talk) 19:20, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
How's he been doing at controlling his temper? I know that was sometimes an issue with him back in the day. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:21, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
I think he is okay with it now. Messi1983 (talk) 19:22, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
He didn't vote or participate in any of the recent promotion requests, but he is active. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:31, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
I am thinking probation for him if he ever does decide to apply for adminship. Mind you, I personally think we should do that for new staff members. Messi1983 (talk) 19:32, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
I'd probably vote for him if he ran, but I'm not going to ask anyone to run. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:36, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Neither am I. Messi1983 (talk) 19:49, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

RenameEdit

Hey Jeff. Could tou rename this page? Theres no other "hater" in the series, so I don't know why they put this name in the page. DLVIIIL Talk 19:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

AdminEdit

Hey Jeff, I was just checking your conversation with Dan, well, I think we need another admin but not right now, and I would say that the most qualified patroller is Smurfynz, but he just got promoted this month, I say give him a year or less and maybe he send a promotion request. Signature (talk) 20:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

FYI Edit

Left you a few more emails. Messi1983 (talk) 09:53, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

My InactivityEdit

Hey, Jeff. Long time, no speak. Listen, I apologize for my inactivity and my demotion. It's that I've been busy with school and I haven't had Internet in my home for a few months. And yeah, three edits for January isn't enough. Once I get Internet ("hopefully" by next month), I can retain my moderator position.

--Tony1998 (Talker * Blogger * Stalker)-- 20:28, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

You didn't get demoted from patroller, you just got moved to inactive. The wiki's rule says that we don't demote patrollers for inactivity and admins/bureaucrats who go inactive only get demoted to patroller, but the patrollers don't seem to understand that and keep filing demotion requests. If I'd been a bureaucrat at the time I'd have deleted the demotion and just moved you to inactive. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:30, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
What? There was a single "inactive/demote" discussion and it was raised because all 5 had made enough irregular edits to avoid the automatic 3 month inactivity timer so couldn't really just be made inactive without discussion. Most of the patrollers and editors seem to have correctly understood that Tony would just be moved to inactive in accordance with the rule. In fact, 2 of the votes to demote Tony came from the two Bureaucrats. Leo and I had to remind Dan that all inactive staff should have retained Patroller rights unless they resigned. Before you fire "lack of understanding" shots, maybe you should check your aim.  smurfy (coms) 00:52, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

BureaucratEdit

I spoke recently to Dan about becoming a Bureaucrat to fill the empty space you are temporarily occupying. I will consider Bureaucrat later in the year because I have bureaucratic rights on another site. For now I'd like to adjust to admin and see how I handle it. Leo68 (talk) 00:18, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Rule change vote neededEdit

Please see my post on the community noticeboard requiring Bureaucrat/Admin voting. Thanks smurfy (coms) 01:48, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Myths Wiki LinksEdit

Hey McJeff. Why are you removing the links from the GTA Myths Wiki. On the Community Noticeboard, we agreed to have it once again as an affiliate of the wiki. I recently saw what happened with Boomer8, if that's the reason why you are removing the links, but I think removal of the wiki as an affiliate should be discussed with Sasquatch101 and MythHunter. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:21, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

It just wasn't relevant to that particular article. Sorry for forgetting to use an edit summary. Jeff (talk·stalk) 01:35, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
It's okay, it happens. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:59, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


Reply Edit

The promotion went as expected and that's fine. The whole situation that happened with Boomer though seems to be a little harsh. From what I read Boomer said no personal insults towards Messi and was just having an argument. I mean debate is healthy and good for anything (i.e. wikis, democracies, ect.) and I saw no indication that Boomer crossed a line and became hostile. I think Boomer just felt that he was being excluded from voting based on your and Messis' view that he is a meatpuppet. I can say that he speaks with a lot of passion and does generally agree with me as we have been editing together for over a couple years. He was very loyal to me during the whole Myths wiki fiasco that went down during the Gunshow2 incident. You know how crazy that was and I very much appreciate your help on that. Me and Boomer have a lot of history, we both love myths and I can say that he is a loyal, trustworthy editor and would be a great person to have here on the GTA Wiki.

Thanks, --Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:44, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Image Policy for personal pages/sandboxesEdit

Hey Jeff, I was watching a discussion right now and it was a case similar to mines (which happened some time ago), the thing is:

My friend Monkeypolice188 added pictures to his personal page and his sandbox and he still received a warning for image policy, but RainingPain17 gave him an advice, which was to talk to you about this, as I had the same problem, I should ask, do we really need to add licenses to our personal pages/sandboxes? Why? Signature (talk) 21:33, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Image policy gets weird sometimes. If it's a picture for personal use, you can always just upload it and ask a b'crat or another knowledgeable editor to add an appropriate license afterwards. I'll take a look at the picture in question now. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:49, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Rename page Edit

Hi, Jeff. Could you please rename this page (by what I said in the talk page)? Thanks. --{{SUBST:Usuario:Platybus/Firma2}} 04:15, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hello McJeff. I was just playing through GTA V again(the PS3 version, yeah I know I'm a hipster or something I just can't afford a PS4 atm, anyway), I got passed Meltdown, I felt like switching to Trevor and he was in his underwear, and I decided to go to his safehouse in Sandy Shores to change, and I found Michael chilling in the seat outside the trailer. I have a photo for proof but that's all I got. I was wondering if this information could go anywhere, I mean it if's worthy of going anywhere. If it doesn't I totally understand. Please reply back when you can. We are Diamond Dogs (talk) 05:02, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

FanfictionEdit

Thanks for that, I was wary of being accused of picking on the guy, so I thought I'd give him one opportunity to fix it himself.  smurfy (coms) 23:52, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

You weren't picking on him Smurf, you were following the policy. His edits were borderline vandalism and he put a "spoiler" tag on his personal page, so it was right that they were being undone/changed. SJWalker (talk) 00:10, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

GTA London 1961 characters pageEdit

Hello there McJeff. I've recently done a lot of work on the GTA London 1961 character page, since it was just a copy of the article for characters in GTA London 1969, which is incorrect as they feature mostly different (minor) characters. I see that you have undone my edits, may I respectfully ask why this has been done? Darth crucifious (talk) 12:40, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Your opinionEdit

http://gta.wikia.com/Faggio?action=history

There is an ongoing edit war over the number of gears of the article. One user says that it has three gears according to the game files. Two others disagree with it due to the lack of gear changing sound in the game itself.

Since it seems the issue is not about to be resolved yet, I thought it would be better to have your opinion about it. Rain (Stalker) 21:08, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, get someone to lock the page, i have removed all of it anyway MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:11, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

Dear McJeff, I really like this wiki as I use it a lot to inform myself about the GTA game that I'm about to play. But, can this wikia have comments instead of talk pages? Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryvideogamebird (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Sorry, but this wiki voted to keep talk pages. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:58, February 22, 2015 (UTC)


Help Edit

Hey Jeff. I was just on the GTA Myths Wiki and am shocked at what I saw. remember that user what was rigging votes and causing all those problems, well he is back with multiple accounts and is vandalizing the wiki regularly. He is now uploading new (racist) images that are deleting the ones with the same name. Is there any further protection I can add to the wiki to prevent these attacks? In the mean time I'll just keep a watch out.

--Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Gunshow2 detectedEdit

GodBlessTheNSDAP. Look at his profile. For me it's a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 13:07, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Yes it is a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. I have blocked him for sockpuppetry. Messi1983 (talk) 15:08, February 23, 2015 (UTC)


RE: Edit

Thanks for the advice. I'll get right on those things. Hopefully this won't be a problem much longer. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:00, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Found the SourceEdit

Hey Jeff, long time no speak. Anyway, I believe I have found what someone sent me to be the source of these racist vandals. Check it out and tell me what you think.

VideosEdit

I need your opinion about them here. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 15:17, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Leaked InfoEdit

Keep an eye out. This user posted a leaked image of the new Kuruma set to be featured in the Heists Update. He then set up a second account and posted the same image. He has been banned on both accounts. We don't need another sockpuppet. The guy uses random numbers and letters for his titles and the image appears to be in the same image it is outside the La Mesa LSC. If the image appears again before March 10, ban the uploader immediately. Leo68 (talk) 07:24, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Edits VandalEdit

Just to let you know, a user practically destroyed your userpage, don't worry, he's blocked! MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 19:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

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