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aka Jamal Rogers

Chat Moderator
13,910 Edits since joining this wiki
November 16, 2010
  • I was born on May 18
  • My occupation is High School Junior
  • I am Male

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There you go :) Do you know now how to do it ?  RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 11:54, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, it was added a long time ago by Cloudkit. It just automatically updated when I created the second archive. I just moved it on the top of the page so it can be clearly seen. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 11:57, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


I have created another template, its name is Template:Incorrect page, and should be issued when someone creates an incorrect page. I'm planning to make a couple of more of these, they use that kind of stuff on the CoD Wiki and IMO it's not that bad. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 15:56, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Agree with you. I knew Zancudo River redirects to Lago Zancudo, but I never knew they used to be separate pages. If Raton Canyon and Cassidy Creek are both separate pages, then it should be the same thing about the Zancudo River RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:39, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot to told you. You may have missed a message from Sean that he left on your talk page here, saying that he was planning to run for rollback rights (LOL). I cleared it because there was no purpose of such ridiculous message here. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:55, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I always said he is Trevor's twin brother ^^. Oh, and by the way please do not answer to him anymore. Act as if he is a stranger. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:59, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry about him, he's the most pessimistic person in the world. Congrats and good luck :) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:40, October 13, 2014 (UTC) Oh, and BTW, any news from the Wikia staff ? 

Lago Zancudo/Zancudo River

Done. I agree with you, they should be split up. DocVinewood (talk) 19:15, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


Hey man, congratulations for getting a job, because there's nothing better than having our money without depending on the others, i'm still about to get a job, but you know, in Brazil this is kinda hard, but I WILL get a job, no matter how long it takes :D Signature (Talk) 19:41, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


Don't know if it happened to you but the "Content" section on the top of the page has disappeared. Also, Staff and Community Noticeboard have vanished from the "Community" section. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:52, October 13, 2014 (UTC) 


I notice you are following along behind monkeypolice, I'm working at the moment, can you make sure he/you adds the "content creator" and "Rockstar Verified Jobs" categories too? Smurfynz (talk) 21:21, October 13, 2014 (UTC) 

Weird things

I know this is all weird, that's what happened: A user just hates Rain because he reverts this user's edits, then I had to calm him down an Ilan didn't agree with rain saying "I don't give a fuck about you" to the user, and by a minute ago, I just reported a spammer and undone his edits, I was like THE patroller now, luckily, Leo was here and gave the spammer a warning Signature (Talk) 18:02, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

No,it's RazorShooter, he now learned that civility is very important, something that some users like the Wiki contributor doesn't ever learn Signature (Talk) 18:08, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand why these people even criticize Rain, I think they can't stand it because Rain is here for about 3 months and he is already a patroller, it shouldn't be so easy to be a user in this wiki you know... Signature (Talk) 18:13, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

IMO Cloudkit is not that bad, the only patroller that i've never seen doing anything important is that guy Tony 1998, but Cloudkit is also definitely not the best Patroller here, also, Ilan is an awesome bureaucrat, but I don't think he agree with my job here or even likes me, but when I have a problem, I will always talk to him Signature (Talk) 18:23, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, who knows what will happen, i'll try to become a patroller in three months, after the new year, did you see what I did yesterday? If you check the Exports and Imports page, it will show all the cars with their respective days and prices, also, I added the price of each vehicle in their respective articles

As Ilan just said, my job is "flawed but i'm getting better" Signature (Talk) 18:33, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


Huh, Sean is still there? Anyways, I'm not so sure myself. I'm waiting for Tom to return to me so we could discuss about it. Personally, I'm doing meh, with very little free time in hands. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 18:08, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

I'm aware of Razor's doings. If he'll continue being uncivil and edit war, I'll block him. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 18:18, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Faune Page

I need your opinion on something here. 558050 Talk 15:40 15 October, 2014 (UTC)

Sean and Razor

Oh man... Ban them, I thought Razor wasn't that bad, but when I saw this, I got myself shocked with such an attitude, they are very bad, why report patrollers just because they don't like them? That was bullsh*t, now they deserve a ethernal ban Signature (Talk) 14:24, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Poor Rain, just a few weeks as a patroller and people already criticizes him :/ I didn't want him to be a week off here Signature (Talk) 00:42, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


Yeah, they've started bothering me saying ignore them and how the community here is full of retards. Taken direct from a page on another wiki where I am an administrator. Leo68 (talk) 14:27, October 16, 2014 (UTC)


Yes, I see that. They left a message to me as well. I'm going to contact Wikia about that too. I don't believe you two will get demoted for the current dispute. Just remember to remain mature and polite while dealing with other users. No "Who do you think you are?" or anything.

On another note; Rain was given a warning for causing an edit war on my talk page, as well as removing another user's messages for me, which is not allowed (and that's goes unspoken, removing other users' messages on ANOTHER person's talk page, without the person's permission). Regarding the second 'warning,' I only pointed out that this is NOT how a Patroller should behave.

If Sean will return, report him to either me, Tom, or another admin. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 20:40, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

I got your back, bro :)

Sean returned with another account... User:Jamal Rogers ;) I reported him to Ilan and Tom but then he started vandalising my page so a VSTF user User_talk:Cyanide3 got involved directly for the first time that I have seen.

Hopefully we might get some action now since GTA Wiki Bureaucrats can't seem to block his IP even after 10 sockpuppet accounts, yet they IP Blocked XPanettaa.

He's just tried to re-register and was IP autoblocked:

Autoblock #6208 22:57, 18 October 2014 Cyanide3 (Talk | contribs) account creation blocked (Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Jamal Rogers". The reason given for Jamal Rogers's block is: "Vandalism")

Smurfynz (talk)


I think not longer as a week and they will be send an e-mail to Smurfynz or send a message here in the GTA-Wiki. When I used Special:Contact the staff for the german community send me a message back at the next day.

"(...)but how do I know if it was successfully sent to them?"

You will get a e-mail with the content, that wikia got your contact form.

- Cyanide3 11:39, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Vespucci Beach Sidewalk

Hey, I'd like to hear your opinion about this when you have time. Thanks! DocVinewood (talk) 18:34, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Block log

See, the last users are all Sean, that's very interesting hahaha

Anyway, what do you think about Leo's activity to separete Wrecks and Beaters? I suggested it to him and he agreed Signature (Talk) 20:09, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

That profile with your real name was in the last of us wiki too, to taunt me, but I don't even reply him, I just let he says anything, I don't wanna waste my precious time discussing with him Signature (Talk) 20:18, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Weapons in GTA V

On this page it says GTA V was the first game to feature weapon stats but in GTA San Andreas there are weapon stats( poor,gangster and hitman).-Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 21:41, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


I saw that Sean left you another bunch of nonsensical stuff on your talk page on WD Wiki. Please do not reply to him, do as Smurfynz does, you may just want to read it, it's absolutely worth it :). By the way, I would like to know if you can do inquiries to Ilan when I have some instead of me. With what happened recently I'll think it will be better. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 14:18, October 18, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Smashbro, I was watching your topic with Rain, and Rain was also talking about demoting Cloudkit01, so, I hate to say that, but I actually agree with you both, I always liked his edits, but they're not as significant as Smurfynz' edits, as Rain said, Smurfynz pretty much deserves the spot over Cloud, all he does is adding links in the articles, he could keep doing this, but as he doesn't add important information in the wiki and he NEVER EVER answer users' messages or vote for users' promotion, so, he doesn't really deserve the spot, now me, you and Rain disagree with him being a patroller, but in a friendly way, so, we could talk to an admin or a Crat here, should we do this or not? Signature (Talk) 22:12, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Cool, BTW, can I vote for promotion or demotion? Because as I saw in the promotion pages, only staff members have voted for both cases Signature (Talk) 00:51, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'll contact him, so we'll talk about Cloud's situation, then we'll see if we really need to talk to Ilan about this Signature (Talk) 14:43, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm in, i'll talk to Ilan right now Signature (Talk) 16:33, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for your help adding the new links to the sidewalk page. DocVinewood (talk) 17:54, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, a user keeps adding fake information to the beta vehicles,beta characters and beta realeases articles, and he has done this three times in a roll, and as I can't use the rollback tool, I have to ask you to do it, all of his edits are fake info, he was block three days ago for that and he keep doing this Signature (Talk) 19:25, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


If you want to post a demotion note regarding Cloud, you have my permission, but I strongly suggest asking Tom about this too. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 10:11, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sean vs everyone now

Look at this and this, now even WildBrick is being taunt by Sean, hahaha, who will be the next? This dude need serious help Signature (Talk) 17:53, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

He is probably 12, it's like those people that think like this: "oh he doesn't agree with me,so he sucks", how I wish his parents took him out of the computers, he should go to the school or something like that, it's very very very annoying to have such a stubborn user like him here, see XPanettaa can't come back as his IP was blocked, but that's not enough, Sean go through all the wikis to insult us, this is the most childish thing i've ever seen Signature (Talk) 18:53, October 20, 2014 (UTC)


I have talked to Tom about Cloudkit, he told me he doesn't support the demotion, but as I asked him, he's going to leave Cloud a message about answering other users.

In case nothing changes after that, then a request for demotion should be opened. Tom said we can do this without him. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:00, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

I didn't mention the voting, but I think he knew that, since I made him read Ilan's message.
But I agree with him, demotion is a bit extreme (the AK-28 case for example). Like I said, Tom will leave a message, and in case nothing changes, we'll take care of this. But honestly I feel demotion is inappropriate right now. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:10, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
The best thing you can do is put up the request and see how the voting goes. Leo68 (talk) 22:56, October 20, 2014 (UTC)


Since you're a pro and I don't know how to make transparent PNG files (derp :P), could you make of these three files transparents PNGs like you did formerly ? Thanks. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 19:56, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yep. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:09, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Well, actually it's all done (it's the Watch Dogs font), you just have to make it transparent and set it at the correct size. Thanks :) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:14, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Download it hereRainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:18, October 20, 2014 (UTC)



Hey Smash, could you help me with something ? I'm working on "trivia splitting", i.e. splitting the trivia into different sections (one per game). There should be a category "General" with facts referring to the different renditions of the weapon/vehicle, and one with trivia facts related to a single game (see an example here). Since there is a lot of work to do and I know you are regularly here, maybe you could help me ? Thanks. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 08:58, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Anywhere you'd like :) It has to be done in vehicles and weapons pages. Me and AndreEagle17 started, but there's still a lot of work to do. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 16:49, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Figure out that that's what we have planned with Tom :) BTW, have you seen Sean's new attempt ? RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:29, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Add <span style="color: white"><div style="position: fixed; bottom: 22px; right: 0px; padding: 7px; background: #0071c5;"></div></span>. color determines the color of the text, background the color of the background (you need the colors hex, it'll be there. And right before </div>, you insert the text you want (you can also add images). RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:38, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

No problem :) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:11, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Trivia Work

Hi Smashbros, i just wanted to say, ive come up with an idea for all the trivia work we are doing:

The Sub Headings should be into HD And 3D universe if:

  • if there are facts to do with all games in that category

The Sub Headings should be GTA SA, GTA LCS, GTA VC, GTA CW, GTA III, GTA IV, GTA V etc if:

  • If the info is specific to that game

Default Radios should be put into the General collumn

Thanks, hope you understand that! Monkeypolice188 (talk) 18:57, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


I'll be glad to help with the trivia! Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 19:24, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Done. About Michael, we should leave "American", since him being Irish is an unconfirmed (but likely) theory. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:24, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Driver WIKI

Is there a seperate wiki for Driver 3 (Driv3r)

If so, i dont know much about the Driv3r game, only driver sf, and Parallel lines really. i know the Driver wiki, but im not sure if you mean driver 3 wiki or driver wikiMonkeypolice188 (talk) 20:35, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

oh, ive seen that wiki, its for Driver 3 specificaly, i work on the Driver wiki, for all Driver Games. There should be a wiki for each indivual games from Driver because of that seperate wiki really. oh well, tell me if you know anything about the Driver series aswell as Driver 3 (Driv3r) Monkeypolice188 (talk) 20:41, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Michael

We do not fully know Michael's Irish genes. He is of Irish descent, but it is unknown how much. I think we should keep his nationality as American. The Irish bit is already in his trivia. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 22:16, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


I'll try to when I have the time. Leo68 (talk) 02:40, October 22, 2014 (UTC)


Now Sean has been harassing me again on the CoD Wiki, asking me to forgive him, blablabla. So, I was going to suggest you : what about we leave him a large message on the WD Wiki, a LAST one (after that, we forget him), to tell him why we won't forgive him and suggest him to stay in the Grand Theft Wiki ? Leave me your opinion. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 07:51, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Seeing how he wrote to me on the CoD Wiki, yes I think so. But we should advise him to look for other friends, maybe on the Grand Theft Wiki, but to finally leave us. I have important matters in life so I can't dedicate 100% of my time to him. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:22, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that yesterday. Strange coincidence. He probably saw my messages to Tom :) Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:28, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
Eventually he's going to show up someday, and we'll message him instead of Tom. That could work aswell. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:32, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
I was working on it but first I had to spent a while on making up with new sig :) Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:37, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Military Image

I certainly agree with you! Monkeypolice188 (talk) 20:22, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Military

I indeed did add the Air Force pilot image. Although someone kept it after making an Infobox. At the time, the main military image was too low quality. Perhaps the Air Force image can go into the Gallery. I agree with you. We're going to need a better main pic. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 21:32, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Vehicle speeds

User:Bigbear93 has been modifying the top speed stat and trivia of the Entity XF and Adder pages. I assume he is getting these numbers from his stats, but these should not be valid as speed records. People have been doing 300+ mph in Adders since the game came out by "downhilling" with Franklins special ability. People have glitched topspeed records from using the gate launch glitch.

I think we need to roll back his edits. Smurfynz (talk) 00:10, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Taken care of. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 10:41, October 23, 2014 (UTC)


Hi and Thanks for warn me about the mistaken grammar , I good at vocab but not as good as my grammar , so im sorry for my grammar and to difficult you to undrestand what i Write ,and Im will improve my grammar , thanks :)

Other wikis

Not a problem for me bro, i'd like to do that :)

I just want a vehicle navbox on that wiki, just like the GTA vehicles navbox Signature (Talk) 00:02, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

I can try to do that, anyway, if you make that navbox, here's the source:

{{|name = Vehicles |title = Vehicles in Scarface |bodystyle = width:650px; |titlestyle = background:#222222; |groupstyle = background: #222222; font-weight: bold; width:50px; text-align: center; |liststyle = background: #555555; |belowstyle = background: #222222; text-align: center;

|group1 = Exotic cars |list1 = Albatross | Ambassador | Ariel MK III | Bacinari | Bandit ST | Bodog Stampede | Brahma | Bulldozer | Caballo El Ray | Conick N29 | Delphine | Fellini | GPV Offroad | GS Wolhabend | Lakota Fastback | Lightning | Mojave | Monterery Shark | MPD Cruiser | Odin VH88 | Orient YV | Panther | Pumah | QM Convertible | Rattler | Santa Monica | Stampede | Stretch Limo | Tomahawk SS

|group2 = Civilian cars |list2 = Ambulance | Bus | Chevrolet Blazer pickup | Chevrolet Step Van | Corfu | Cube Van | Epsilon | Hippie Van | Honda Accord | Jupiter | Mack MR | Mercutio | Mullet | Shag Van | Station Wagon | Volkswagen Cabriolet

|group3 = Exotic Boats |list3 = Antique Trickraft | Attack Boat | Cigarette Boat | Cigarette Gun Boat | Fan Boat | Floatplane | Jet Boat | Picklefork | Powerboat | Racing Boat | Sports Fishing Boat | Yacht

|group4 = Uncontrollable |list4 = Big Ship | Forklift | Frigate | Helicopters | JLG Tractor | Pirate Boat | Sail Boat | Frigate }} Signature (Talk) 00:06, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, may you show me how it looks now? I wanted the source, so I could add this right now, and BTW, how can I help you in the Driv3r wiki? Signature (Talk) 12:11, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Uhmmm... I wish everything was okay there LoL as I said to Rain, that wiki is like a egypt temple or pyramid, i'm the only alive user there, and somehow I can't make a navbox and a quote template there, and I also wanna know how can I help you in the Driv3r wiki Signature (Talk) 19:51, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Oh man! Thanks for that! That's all I wanted :) and I can find a way to change the color, now, just ask me how can I help you in the Driv3r wiki :P Signature (Talk) 00:26, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I am a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog, but the problem is that I didn't ever play Sonic on the nintendo wii, I just played wii sports and mario kart for wii, but as I have enough knowledge, I can try some edits on that wiki Signature (Talk) 13:27, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I think I gonna put some infoboxes and a better description on the vehicles, something like "good handling, nice brakes, outstanding top speed and fast acceleration" Signature (Talk) 20:05, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'll go there, but if I don't do it so often, it's because i'm busy on the Scarface wiki, i'm about to finish my job there Signature (Talk) 13:42, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

this wikia is silent

Hey,Smash looks like everything is so quiet in this Wiki.Do you have time to clean up some pages in Wiki.Thank you.798537 (talk) 13:10, October 24, 2014 (UTC)


No worries. Ilan blocked him, and I got messages such as "suck my dick" on the WD Wiki (amazing). Someday I hope he will give up. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:02, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Not a chance. As Smurfynz said, he is smart enough to use multiple IPs. I just hope we won't have to stand him for the whole time. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:08, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
ALL OF US are tired. I knew persons like him but they quickly gave up because they realized how useless their behavior was. But him, honestly I really don't know what's his goal, or what is he attempting to do. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:13, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
Since Wikia cannot do anything about it, do you think there's an alternative solution ? Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:20, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, we'll have to find one. I don't want to have to deal with him forever (I'd rather leave Wikia). Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:33, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
I suggested attempting to talk to him. What do you think ? Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:39, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
Not even suggesting him to make friends in the Grand Theft Wiki ? Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:44, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
In my opinion it was just provocation. Anyway I have abandoned the Watch Dogs Wiki (I have removed all my favorite Wikis so he won't find me anywhere I go). I'll do my contributions there as my unregistered account. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:48, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Other wikis (cont.)

I'm currently formatting the Driv3r wiki, but that wiki severely lacks templates, not even the infobox exists, but i'm on my way to make it better like i'm doing in the Scarface wiki, BTW thanks for the help on the Scarface Signature (Talk) 14:16, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

New WIKI!!

HI Smashbro, i am proud to say, i made a seperate wiki for the Driver: Parallel Lines game, like the Driv3r Wiki, it is only for Driver PL!! It is called the Parallel Lines Wiki Driver: Parallel Lines Wiki

Monkeypolice188 (talk) 12:40, October 31, 2014 (UTC)


Reading his last comments, I now saw that Sean has decided to give up on his numerous attempts to come back on the Wiki. I'm very glad he finally realised that it was the smartest thing to do. Maybe someday he will finally change. Glad that WildBrick was right. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 21:11, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Fail #1. Sad. Smurfynz (talk) 22:46, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


Done. If you want to create a redirect page, create a page, and in source editor add : #REDIRECT [[PageName]]. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:21, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


Yeah, I also think this wiki is quite dead, last year when GTA V was about to be released, it was likely the most alive wiki in the internet, now it looks quite dead, like the Bully wiki :\ very sad to see this Signature (Talk) 12:09, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Driver PL Wiki

I recentley made a new wiki specially for the Driver 4 game, i'm working on that now, i can't find much to edit about on GTA Wiki now.Monkeypolice188 (talk) 14:30, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Because its not very popular right now as i only started it yesterday, mostly on my own (help with RainingPain17), to find it, youll have to go onto my profile and look at my favorite wikis, its called Driver: Parallel Lines Wiki.Monkeypolice188 (talk) 14:42, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


I made something about what you asked, check my sandbox. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 14:43, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Less active yes, dead, no. A "dead" wiki is like the Watch Dogs Wiki, it is abandoned by the bcrats and not many edits. Here it is still good, the new release of GTA V should attract people. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 15:13, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
Dialogues are a good idea ! For some reason, they used to exist (I remember that when I used to visit the Wiki at least two years ago), but were deleted, so maybe there's a reason of the absence of these pages. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:39, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
Weird. Maybe it's an auto-block mechanic or something like that. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:43, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
I noticed Randomized being "Blocked". You can auto-block yourself ? O_O Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:46, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Dialogues

Of course. If one GTA game has a dialogues page, then we must be consistent and do it for other games. Unfortunately, I do not have any GTA games on the PC. I'm sure some other editors can help! Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 17:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


Infernus Homage - can be either "a" or "an" depending on US pronunciation (hard H, emphasis on 1st HOM syllable), or rest of the world who keep the original French silent H and emphasis on 2nd syllable AGE.  :) I had been debating myself whether to change that a to an "an" every time I looked at that Infernus page.  Smurfynz (talk) 08:28, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Hey and an apology 

Hey smash, im sorry ok what I did on the Wanted in GTA V talk page okay, but smurfynz keeps reverting my edits and says english, im stupid :,(. Also, It does need protection because we both are the ones edit warring not just me, him because he reverts every single edit I make please see the history. Also my english sucks im canadian 123johnpaul (talk) 21:24, November 2, 2014 (UTC) 123johnpaul. 

Things are out control from me and Smurfynz. He insulted me on my talk page with the topic GET LOST here 

User talk:123johnpaul and he told me (which is both rude and true) that my english sucks. Please help me and him. 123johnpaul (talk) 21:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC) 123johnpaul 


I'm going to leave him a final message and I encourage you to leave him a complement. If ever he causes disputes again, report to iLan. Smurfynz was a good contributor, sad to see he's gone. BTW, nice profile pic. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:56, November 3, 2014 (UTC)


It was sad to see that he is gone, he was an excellent contributor, but JP made him lose his patience, I too feel that JP should be blocked, he victimizes himself everytime, but he is definitely not Sean, at the least, Sean knows how to spell, this is not the first time JP causes trouble, it only depends on Ilan Signature (Talk) 17:03, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

I have left a message on Mokeypolice's talk page, saying that he can handle Smurfynz's job here, as he is very good at that point, i'm almost finished on the Scarface wiki, just some other vehicle articles should be, Cloud left, so, I think we can now send a demotion request for him, not by now, but by the new year, the time is coming for him already Signature (Talk) 17:31, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

If I had just a bit of knowledge of the Nintendo Wii and its games, i'd be there, but Wii for me is like a iPhone when it was released (I didn't know anything about that), but in the Driv3r wiki i'm there sometimes Signature (Talk) 17:41, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Neon lights

Hey man, should we create an article for the Neon lights, as in Chinatown wars, the modified vehicles had neon lights, in the previous gen version of GTA V, the Space Docker has neon lights and in the enhanced version of GTA V you can modify your vehicle to have neon lights, what do you think about this? Signature (Talk) 12:18, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, as the Space Docker's neon lights counts as DRLs, but first we should discuss with more staff members, to make sure that page doesn't get deleted again, a page for both neons and DRLs Signature (Talk) 18:35, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'll talk to him right now, as soon as he logs in, we'll have the confirmation for this Signature (Talk) 18:44, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

In the Scarface wiki, there's just a few cars remaining, in the Driv3r wiki, there are a bit of incomplete articles that I need to work on Signature (Talk) 18:50, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

As soon as the advanced version comes, this wiki will be more active I think Signature (Talk) 18:54, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

And the first thing i'm about to do is merge Dodo Seaplane with Dodo, because rockstar said that it is called just "Dodo", and we know that vehicles change their type in different universes, see those examples:

  • Manana changed from a compact city car to a lowrider
  • Blista changed from a minivan to a compact car
  • Blade changed from a lowrider to a muscle car
  • Sentinel changed from a 4-door sedan to a sports coupé and a convertible
  • Buffalo changed from a muscle car to a 4-door sports car

The only case we should keep separete is when it is too different, like the Benson, the Blade (boat) and the Romero (GTA 2) Signature (Talk) 19:08, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly my point, i'll wait until november 18 to see if it's really named "Dodo" Signature (Talk) 19:27, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

As if it wasn't enough

I just knew that Sean is brazilian, not Malaysian, look at this, as far as I know, "A wikia contributor" is Sean, this is a main characteristic of brazilians, they like to fight or cause confusion...

E ninguém xinga brasileiros falando alguma coisa sobre o país deles, só brasileiro xinga brasileiro

So, I just saw that because he was in the Scarface wiki and created a useless and nonsensical article, he takes that advantage because there are no active admins on that wiki Signature (Talk) 15:49, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, as he is Brazilian, I could just visit his family and say "POR FAVOR,PROÍBA SEU FILHO DE USAR O COMPUTADOR" (or I should say "please forbid your son to use a PC"), he is the most annoying person in the internet...

BTW I created a blog to vote for recreating the DRLs page, could you vote please? :) Signature (Talk) 18:27, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Driv3r wiki

Man, Rain suggested me to ask for bureaucrat rights on the Scarface wiki, I just sent an adoption request to the community central, as I am the only alive user on the Scarface wiki, so I should suggest you to ask for bureaucrat rights in the Driv3r wiki as well, you are editing the Driv3r wiki the same way as I am on the Scarface wiki, if you're up to that, just go on the Community Central, read it and send a request, at the least I think you should send one Signature (Talk) 14:26, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Uh what do you mean "I think I am a bureaucrat"? I mean, if you send a request in the community central, you can be a real bureaucrat in that wiki, just make sure that the last admin or crat there is inactive for a long time ago, in the Scarface wiki for an example, the last admin was there in 2008 Signature (Talk) 22:04, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Just go at the home page and add the link in the request, it'll be nice to have you as a crat on the Driv3r wiki :P Signature (Talk) 22:23, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Should I get GTA V for the PC?

Hi Smash I heard that GTA 5 is coming out for the PC and I was wondering to myself maybe should I buy it or not? Because It looks smooth and way better then old gen consoles, Im confused and asking this to other Should I get or not? Your Opinion. Liquid4life (talk) 21:30, November 8, 2014 (UTC) Liquid4life 


Dang, I didn't even noticed that. I don't know, why would that name pop up after his sig ? Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 22:18, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Holy shit... That could be him again, my gosh, he will never give up till we do, Ilan and Tom should be very angry already, is there any better solution? Man, this is getting even harder Signature (Talk) 01:05, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Well, we can't just let him here, this would create a massive edit war over the articles Signature (Talk) 01:15, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

I'm wondering if I really become a crat in the Scarface wiki, if Sean shows up on that wiki as well, i'll have to block many sockpuppet accounts whithin a week Signature (Talk) 01:28, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

It would be adviced for you too if you decide to become a crat in the Driv3r wiki Signature (Talk) 01:41, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Oh well, that's how life works, i'll probably know that when I finally get to work xD good luck, me and Rain will cover your wikia work Signature (Talk) 01:59, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha sure I will, i'm currently trying to get a job, but when I get one, i'll be very happy, there's not better thing than having our own money Signature (Talk) 12:27, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

I am not 123johnpauls sock

Hi Im here to tell you things are not fucked up, I was trying to fill the rest in I was trying to say before my dumb CPU freezed. I was trying to say: 123johnpaul should get blocked more, for what he did I hate him. Liquid4life (talk) 22:17, November 10, 2014 (UTC) Liquidlife 


Pure coincidence. Everything that has a ball-like form, with a red top and a white bottom doesn't always look like a pokeball. Don't forget this is a car from real life, not from a Japanese series. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 18:19, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Scarface wiki

It's official now, Wendy gave me admin and crat rights, now that wiki is 100% safe of Sean's vandalism :P Signature (Talk) 13:46, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha I like to hear that :P I'll send a request on december, this time i'm determined to carry on with the good job, i'm even thinking about creating a few templates. Signature (Talk) 16:40, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Enhanced version

Man, I thought that GTA wouldn't impress me anymore, but I was wrong, I have never seen a game that lets you eat a Peyote Plant and turn into a random animal! And look at the vehicles for the enhanced version, man, I love GTA San Andreas but GTA V is pretty much tied for me, there are many things missing, like the Kart, the Vortex, the Jetpack, two other cities, but I never imagined how funny GTA V could be xD Imagine GTA VI Signature (Talk) 17:28, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

It is very cartoony, yet I still think it's very funny xD I can't wait till I can buy a PS4 Signature (Talk) 17:49, November 19, 2014 (UTC)


Man, I don't know, it can be a good idea, but the Horns article is kinda heavy to be merged, but we can still simplify it and add to the page or even write a section with a "main article" template to visit the Horns page

And yeah, I can't believe how immature people can be, this guys doesn't know anything about the wiki and yet they think they can't do whatever they want -.-' I had to report this... this... moron! He deserves a 10-years block Signature (Talk) 23:06, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

GTAV Vehicle interiors/dashboards in Enhanced edition


Not sure whether to add this to the Vehicle Features page or create a new one. There are a limited number of interior models and they are shared between different vehicles. Haven't started taking serious notes or screen grabs yet (need to get some time on the PS4 this weekend) but for example the Peyote and Hotknife have the same dash and the Blista Compact and Futo share theirs too. 

Might be a case of listing 20 or so unique interiors with the vehicles that use each one.

Smurfynz (talk) 23:27, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

That's good, a short section with a "main page" looks nice :) it's a feature, we were going to add it to the Vehicle Features anyway Signature (Talk) 23:46, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Ah and BTW, I posted a video to CJ Jr. showing a Blue Whale, you should see that, it's incredible :D Signature (Talk) 00:17, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, I have the Social Club account and the PSN account, I think I can get everything already hehehe

I noticed something here, in the videos it shows that the stock cars are called:

  • Pisswasser Dominator
  • Burger Shot Stallion
  • Redwood Gauntlet
  • Sprunk Buffalo

And yet, they're just listed as "variants" in the vehicle articles... However, the Go Go Monkey Blista has its own article, when the stock cars have better performance than their civilian variants, the Monkey Blista has the same performance as the Blista Compact... This is a Hard decision...

Should we split each stock car or should we merge Go Go Monkey Blista with Blista Compact? Signature (Talk) 00:34, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Well, to get a Rockstar Social club account, sign up here and connect your account to the X360 account, then connect it on the 360 as well I think.

About the Go Go Monkey Blista and the Stock cars, it's a really hard decision, so we better talk to WildBrick142, he is the best guy to say if it should be merged or not Signature (Talk) 00:49, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha I don't play most of these xD yet i'm still thinking about getting CoD AW and Far Cry 4, as well as Infamous Second Son, The Last of Us and Uncharted 4 when it's released Signature (Talk) 01:06, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

TBH I hated CoD since MW3, but I changed my mind after I have played CoD Ghosts, CoD became a better game since then, the guns are cool, the gameplay is funny, so i'm really thinking about getting the CoD AW

Fay Cry, they tell me to play Fary Cry 3 every time, but I just said "meh", but I think I should play it then play Far Cry 4 Signature (Talk) 01:10, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

I can imagine, Far Cry 4 will have brazilian dub :D brazilian voice actors are so awesome, as well as the game Signature (Talk) 02:06, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

LOL (read the entire crap especially when he goes paranoid).
I can't even comment this. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:34, November 20, 2014 (UTC)


Man, hahahahaha ROFLMAO XPanettaa became a clown xD Signature (Talk) 17:43, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

That's it, when I think my life is sad, i'll remember that there are guys like these, crying to be unblocked and thinking that they can do whatever they want xD Signature (Talk) 17:50, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

I've had nothing to do with this repeat offender debacle for a while now (thank God!) but I did have a look at that link. That guy who responded with "if you burn your arse, you must sit on the blisters" cracked me right up! :D --Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 09:10, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
Look at the message he left, he even recognize he tried to force Ilan into unblocking him. What a joke. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 18:16, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
Look your Watch Dogs Wiki wall. He wants to convince you to help him to force Ilan into unblocking him. He harassed Ilan and Tom on several Wikis to get unblocked and, as you can see, he tried to involve the staff in this. BIG LOL. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 18:25, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
PS: Check my blog, I found out that you are ranked #2 in global and article editing :P Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 14:35, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

From XPanettaa on your WD Wiki wall

"Well, how many times did I tell you to respond to me? You're a... you're a very difficult, busy, inactive and ignorant person to respond to me after when I responded to you to do it."
He has turned into a living joke now.
If he continues to harass you, I suggest you to contact the Wikia Staff do deal with him. He's becoming a seriously annoying and immature person. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 11:50, November 23, 2014 (UTC)


Message to everyone: I have read an article that gta v  wii be coming out on Wii U, Nintendo said there might be a good chance of it getting realased, but Rockstar yet did not confirmed? Reply Agree if you agree or Disagree if you disagree ArtificalPro (talk) 13:31, November 23, 2014 (UTC)


Hey bro, last week I had problems with image policy again, but Rain told me carefully what I should've done, after this, I showed him two pictures and they finally followed the policy, these three pictures are on the pages: 

So I guess i'm on right way I think...

Anyway, i'm impressed how Sean learned enough now, by giving a advice do KidPanettaa, he finally grown up a bit, I said that to him after what I saw in the community central Signature (Talk) 17:07, November 24, 2014 (UTC)


I have encountered several of these in Chicago (i.e. in a garage near the Chicago South Club's underground club and in the Brandon Docks power station), and the jokes are different when you encounter others. Yep, it's definitely hilarious! Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:30, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Yep, it's time to bring back activity on this Wiki. Great news, NinjaFatGuy promoted me to admin after my request, so I'll be able to take care of vandalism. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 20:25, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Blue Whale

We need yet to know if they are killable or not, someone who has the enhanced version should test it, but i'd feel bad to kill a Whale, they're so innocent, i'd kill a player who does that in GTA Online Signature (Talk) 22:25, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha just like me, I never kill dogs in GTA, instead I run away from them, because I feel bad even when Jimmy slaps a dog accidentally in Bully, when mountain lions spawn in GTA V, I don't kill them, instead I just stun them and run away, they'll wake up and start running, but when i'm too far from a car, I just change characters to prevent killing the lion or the lion killing the character, but I swear, if I see someone in GTA Online killing a animal, i'd kill them with a Rhino, a Buzzard, a Minigun and after they are killed three times i'd put a bounty of 10K and after they are killed again i'd call Merryweather to take them out Signature (Talk) 12:23, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

I feel the same for any dog, anyway, did you see the message that Sean left me on my talk page? The print is at Rain's talk page Signature (Talk) 17:38, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

KidPanettaa is definitely a troll, sending the same message over and over again, when I saw this:

"I need to be unblocked on the GTA wiki because I saw something wrong in a user's page!
"Yeah, who's user page?"
"I don't know"

Then I felt like CJ in the mission Green Goo, when he starts laughing at The Truth because he says "I don't know yet" Signature (Talk) 18:18, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

White Lies Beneath

I was going to add that in the trivia section, but I found it somewhat "Sky is blue", if you think it's relevant enough, i'll agree, because I don't remember any mission that made us get only 10 bucks, this is by far the smallest amount of money in the series (and for such a hard job) Signature (Talk) 02:12, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Paprazzo missions all pay $0. The only payment you get is if you elect to kill Beverly at the end.

I think Abigail drops more cash than Beverly if you elect to kill her. I can't remember for certain though. smurfy (coms) 02:16, November 26, 2014 (UTC)


See transitive verb definition #3. It is 100% synonymous with choose.

And so ends your English class for this evening

;-)   smurfy (coms) 03:43, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

True enough, I just have a pet hate for choose. You'll note I even used elect in my last comment to you about Abigail above. smurfy (coms) 03:50, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

I give up from Driv3r wiki

Man, Sean has created another sockpuppet account in this wiki, I thought for a moment that he was going to be a better person, he didn't, he's still the same annoying kid, he doesn't ever stop sending me messages on that wiki, that's because the Driv3r wiki is the only wiki that he can't be blocked, so he stay sending me messages over and over again, and that's always the same thing: "Oh i'll stop harrasing you" or "i'll never be back here again", but I heard this for over nine thousand times, so I decided to leave the Driv3r wiki, I know it's sad, but I can't stand this anymore Signature (talk) 18:04, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, now I know that hope is not lost... Signature (talk) 18:11, December 4, 2014 (UTC) and -_- Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:25, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

GTA V & San Andreas

I also think that the blog should be closed now, I HATE this kind of discussion of "opinion", it's enough already of people discussing which is the best game, my favorite GTA game is GTA V, by a time ago, GTA San Andreas was my favorite GTA game until GTA V, before GTA V, I thought "oh, no other game will be better than SA, then I came to this point of prefering GTA V, also, it's unnecessary to say that "there are 10 reasons to hate this game"

Honestly, I don't hate any GTA game, San Andreas is still my second favorite game and I don't have anything to complain, don't you think it's boring to complain at a game and instead just play it? There will always be someone to defend a game, this is just as unnecessary as this fight against PC gamers and console gamers... (Hello Rain, I know you are reading this, once again, i'm not talking anything about you, remember all the respect I have for you) Signature (talk) 19:13, December 5, 2014 (UTC)


I refer to them as toasters on wheels, because the entire thing is a box. It also looks like the original maker just drew a box, added wheels, a Mercedes badge and knocked it out at a stupidly high price. It may have even been a designer's son's drawing of a car. Leo68 (talk) 01:57, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. Put it halfway through the crusher, take it out fix the dents and put it back on the road. Leo68 (talk) 03:29, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Older GTA's

I did, my first GTA was GTA 2, it was awesome back in the day, then I bought GTA 1 just to check if it's as awesome, in reality, it was pretty boring, GTA 2 also became boring after GTA III was launched, I was thinking about downloading the two GTA londons, but i'm sure i'll not have fun at all, top-down perspective is a past thing Signature (talk) 21:53, December 6, 2014 (UTC)


These characters never appear in game. They are just promos. Nonetheless, I'll discuss it with Illan. Leo68 (talk) 17:02, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

They are not relevant, I don't see the point of them. Leo68 (talk) 17:06, December 10, 2014 (UTC)


Well, I didn't find it so relevant, but yes, this may be re-added to the trivia section, also, if you add it to the section, you may add it to the "aka" bar too, saying that it is called "Black Tank" by the police radio chatter Signature (talk) 00:16, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Look above the door

LSPD Rockford Hills Station 2 -GTA V

Police headquarters

It's marked over 2 doors. smurfy (coms) 00:18, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Some might argue that it could just be the "City of Rockford Hills Police HQ" rather than the LSPD HQ, however it's the only station with HQ signage, in the building that also houses the LSFD HQ. The only police and vehicles that spawn there are LSPD. If anything, Mission row is smaller than Vinewood and Vespucci stations. I've just taken a better Snapmatic of the signage.  smurfy (coms) 00:27, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Midnight club wiki

How did it look before you became an admin? I mean, before I came to the Scarface wiki, it had NOTHING, nothing about cars, character's articles were messed up, games had users' opinion and weapons' articles were directly copied from wikipedia... Now the wiki is like a abandoned city with only one man, despite the fact that UltimateNinja comes by sometimes, to give the wiki a lift. Signature (talk) 14:35, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

The Scarface wiki was a mess before I showed up, you saw it, no navbox templates, no quote templates, unnecessary pages, some pages had nothing on them, some pages were directly copied from the wikipedia and some other pages had personal opinion, UltimateNinja94 helped me out on the weapons articles, there are four active users there, including me, I modified the wiki's background, the main theme and some other stuff, I added three templates from this wiki here, the Images needed template, the cleanup template and the warning template, they are similar, but not directly copied, the warning template for an example, is red with a different warning signal and the images has a different camera icon, the major changes on that wiki was the vehicles and now, the missions, i'm currently working on it, adding videos, walkthrough and remaining missions... I don't wanna sound arrogant, but I think I have done a good work on that wiki. Signature (talk) 12:15, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Unnamed APC (or whatever it is)

I named it as an APC because it is similar to the hidden FBI Truck, so I speculated it to be an APC, but i'm just waiting for the update to rename this beast, I also want to know the name of the Hind-based helicopter Signature (talk) 13:16, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

I'd be upset for not having the Apache back, but i'd be glad to have such a deadly and beasty helicopter in the game, for sure I wanted the 3D universe Hunter back, just like I wanted the 3D Universe Jester and Alpha, mainly the Alpha, I don't know what did Rockstar had in mind to add that bathtub on the game, what made me happy in the Heists update was the Hydra and the Kuruma, man, I waited the whole year to take the Hydra in GTA V and now we'll have it, I wanted the Hunter too, but as a Apache chopper, but since the Hind-based chopper is deadly and it can be the Hunter, then screw the Buzzard, for the Hunter i'd pay 10 millions xD

The unnamed APC may be named "tiger", "leopard", "pantera" or "Alex the dancing Lion" (lmao), I just want to wait and see, this vehicle may be very interesting, I like these Russian-based combat vehicles, just like the APC from TBoGT, I also like the Rhino, but a combat company is never too much fun :D Signature (talk) 18:37, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

The main reason to love the Hunter is the fun I had in GTA Vice City with it, it's just unstoppable, it's like a god in vice city, no helicopters could take it, the Hydra is also fun, when I had one in GTA San Andreas, I just took it to fly it around the state and park it just like a car in Las Venturas xD

What I still wondering is why people complain about GTA V not having a Jetpack, I mean, it was fun back in the day, but in GTA V it would make no sense at all, it would be more of a Saints Row game than a GTA game itself, I think it's better not to have the Jetpack in GTA V, the Hydra and the Hunter are okay, Jetpack? Maybe for the next GTA, along with the Skateboard. Signature (talk) 19:50, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

There are like dozens of vehicles I want back in GTA V, these include:

  1. Hijak Deluxo
  2. Ocelot Windsor
  3. Pegassi Meteor (Lamborghini Countach)
  4. The GTA IV Turismo
  5. Elegy
  6. Zirconium ZR-350
  7. Freeway
  8. Zombie
  9. Clean Voodoo (well, if there's now a clean Rat-Loader, why not a Clean Voodoo?)
  10. New Vapid Contender (Based on the Ford Raptor)
  11. New Imponte Clover (06 Pontiac GTO)
  12. Tampa
  13. Savanna
  14. Dundreary Hermes
  15. Moonbeam (love that minivan)
  16. Revenant
  17. Declasse Yosemite (Chevy Silverado)
  18. BF Club (Golf)
  19. Rustler
  20. Kart
  21. Vortex
  22. Rideable Skateboard
  23. And finally, the APC

Is it too much? hahahaha xD Signature (talk) 20:15, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha I was just talking to a friend about the Toyota Prius, it's the most hated car in america, but I don't think it's because it's a hybrid, but it's because it's ugly and slow, look at the Surge, it's a electric car and it performs very well and it's far more attractive than the Shitettante, just like how the Chevy Volt is more desirable than the Prius, I also like the Panto, I own a Panto in GTA Online, it performs well and looks cool when modified (no sticker bombs), I like the Asea too, as I wish to have a Sonic in real life, there are some pointless cars in GTA V and I think many of them will be removed when GTA VI comes, as Vice City is not a place for every style of car, even if it features a trailer park and a Little Havana district like it did in Vice City Stories. Signature (talk) 13:11, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

So much probable, I don't think they would make only Vice City like in the 3D Universe, they'll probably make a new location, if it's everglades, they'll add the Vortex back, but I think they'll remove many cool vehicles as well, such as the Bodhi, the Rat-Loader, the Roosevelt, the Dumper... It would be sad to have they all removed, also, i'm sure many people will miss GTA V and praise it when GTA VI comes, just like they did with GTA IV, this I am certainly aware of...Signature (talk) 18:34, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Watch Dogs

I liked some features of Watch Dogs, though many things in that game discourages me to play it, such as the physics, the gameplay, the characters... I want to play it, but i'm afraid I get even more disappointed than I already am watching the gameplay. Signature (talk) 18:34, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

I will play it, I don't hate the game, yet, some details are really disappointing, like when you park a car in the train tracks and the train just stops immediately from above 100 mph, and the pesdestrians lacks the ragdoll animation, as shown in the video I posted in the blog, but i'll play it, even with all that disappointment, it's still a good game to play. Signature (talk) 19:27, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Now THIS is cool, I didn't like the fact that the train stops from 100 mph to 0 immediately, but this I liked, causing chaos between trains and stop wherever I want to stop... It should be noted that GTA IV and GTA V lacks the ability to control a Train, I think it would be fun if we could, in WD we basically do it, we just don't need to be in the cockpit to do it. Signature (talk) 21:31, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

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