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The Tom

aka Tom

9,345 Edits since joining this wiki
August 3, 2010
  • I live in England
  • My occupation is Student
  • I am Male

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Hope you don't mind, but I've archived your talk page. :) -- iLan (XDEdits ) 13:21, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

BAWSAQ Problem

As I am trying to get the most out of the assassiantion missions in GTA V, it does not want to let me buy Stocks with Michael, what could the problem be? Matt Seay (talk) 21:57, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Beta Releases

Hello Tom.

Can you help during my "Beta Releases" edit?. I add more Beta stuff from VC & III, but they always get removed!.

Can you please help?. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Claude Speede (talkcontribs)


Hello, could you rename some pages? Davis Avenue instead of Davis Ave, Strawberry Avenue instead of Strawberry Ave, LS24 instead of LS 24 and Del Perro Restaurant Plaza instead of Del Perro Plaza (Restaurant). Also, Las Lagunas Blvd. should be deleted, since all the info is in the Las Lagunas Boulevard article. Thanks! DocVinewood (talk) 15:09, October 9, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Tom, don't you think the staff is inactive a bit ? The admins have gone dark, Dan has made a couple of edits recently but did not answer messages on his talk page. Except the Patrollers, only you and Ilan are active, and two admins is not enough in my opinion. What do you think ? RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 07:15, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Alright. Could you issue a block to this user  ? He is the 10th sockpuppet account of a same guy that's been causing edit wars on this Wiki, and insulted me, Smashbro8 and AndreEagle17. I asked Ilan to do it but he probably missed my message. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 16:59, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Exactly :) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:05, October 11, 2014 (UTC)


There's a disrespectful user insulting, could you do something about it ? Thanks. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 18:06, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


I'd like to talk with you on chat when both you and I are available on the same time. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 12:34, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for removing Molly Schultz from the Antagonists list, I didn't find her that bad, she is just a "minor" antagonist and don't deserve to be in the major antagonists list Signature (Talk) 20:36, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

IMO a character that deserves to be antagonist for GTA IV would be Vlad, HE is a true antagonist, what do you think? Signature (Talk) 20:47, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


I think you'll find the IP address of this user is not the same as the real one but is probably likely to be one of two that should now be permanently IP blocked from this wiki at least. Smurfynz (talk) 09:43, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


Hi, me and Smashbro8 were talking about opening a demotion request for Cloudkit01 on the RfP page, but Ilan said we should talk to you first. So, what do you think about it ? 

PS: I saw that Sean created a new account, "Smurfynz 2", if you see it, please block him as soon as you can. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 10:20, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

You can find the reasons hereRainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:02, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Of course. Smashbro8 already attempted to reason him, and it ended up with Ilan giving a warning to Cloudkit (see here). We don't hate the guy, but personally I think there are users like Smurfynz, WildBrick or AndreEagle17 that deserve the spot more than him. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:14, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Well, no we haven't. We thought Ilan's message would be enough.
If you do not support the demotion, I can understand that, but you can at least leave him a message. Explain him a couple of things about what Smashbro mentioned (such as checking his talk page, and also that his talk page is not made to answer other users, this is also why other users do have talk pages). RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:36, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for doing this :) RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 17:51, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Still have issues with this user adding unverified BETA elements and irrelevant content (see here for an example), and edit warring. Thanks for taking care of this. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 20:36, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hey just a minor thing

I noticed a minor error in your profile it says"I'm also and Administrator on the Sleeping Dogs Wiki, and The Godfather Wiki." in place of an you typed and just saying and not wanting to be a smartass karanmd (talk) 12:16, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Another SeanSiew sockpuppet impersonating other users

User impersonating me this time, trying to vandalise user and talk pages. I have reported to Wikia staff (along with his dozen other IDs). Please, tell me, is this guy actually being smart enough to have multiple IPs because that would really be a surprise to me. Smurfynz (talk) 09:42, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, I have this user who's been adding nonsense to the Penris page. First time I gave him a warning, but he repeated. RainingPain17 (Talk - Edits - Blogs) 21:40, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of this. But now this user is adding nonsense in the Emerald Isle and Catalina pages. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 21:28, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
Taken care of.


Could you change "WIWANG" and "WIWANG Tower" to "Wiwang" and "Wiwang Tower"? I named the company in capital letters looking at its logo, but I think it's more correct and looks better without them. Also, a GTA Online race is called "Wiwang Park", which proves this is the correct form. Thanks! DocVinewood (talk) 18:44, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


I have a little complain about a user named RainingPain17 undoing my edits for the Entity XF page for performance. I have valid proof for the car being faster than 240 mph, and he keeps changing it. Here is the valid proof for the vehicle from my XBOX Screen. Image

What a Shame

That it took my tantrum and departure to get some action. You might want to take care of his sockpuppet while you are at it, just in case.

Thanks, and bye Smurfynz (talk) 21:00, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Daytime running lights page

Hey Tom, I was talking to Smashbro8 right now, we had the idea of recreating the Daytime Running Lights page, which was deleted some time ago by LS11sVaultBoy, but we think that the feature is quite relevant for the game, as is the Door Ajar Chime and the Horns, it's not only about the vehicles' headlights that can't be turned off while driving them, it's also about the neon lights that appeared in Chinatown Wars and in the enhanced version of GTA V, this can be seen in the Zentorno article, what do you think about we recreate the page? Signature (Talk) 18:47, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

I know, the reason for the deletion was that the page was "irrelevant" while three patrollers and me found it relevant enough, but we want a page for the DRLs and the neon lights, the DRLs page was my motivation to create the Horns page, I think it is as relevant as the Door Ajar Chime page Signature (Talk) 19:28, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

There was a 3-1 arguement for keeping the article so I mentioned it to Tom (the administrator) and he took it down immediately. I think there shouldv'e been a vote at least as there was a 3 for yes and only 1 for no. Leo68 (talk) 22:44, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

If the majority deem it relevant then it should be allowed, so go ahead and recreate it. Tom Talk 17:53, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
@AndreEagle 17 and Leon Davis : I'd rather make a vote again to ask the current community about it. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:57, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
In the vote, it has been suggested to make a Vehicle Features page for DRLs and Neon Lights & the door chime. So, should I make it or should I recreate the DRL page, with info for neons as well. Leo68 (talk) 21:59, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea. You may as well recreate the DRL page since it has the info for that already, and then add the info for the other stuff to it. I can rename that page and delete the old ones. Tom Talk 01:05, November 8, 2014 (UTC)


This user has been removing content from pages. Exemples can be found here and here (both the "Death" section and the character sentence exist on 90% of the pages. We, of course, warned him, but his only response is to remove the warnings from his talk page (he already attempt to wipe the warnings he received). Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 18:43, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

hey i was just wondering about one of the image policies. is it violating image policy to save a screenshot from, then add it onto this wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisguy55 (talkcontribs)


Remember 123johnpaul ? Well, there is a new user here named Liquid4life, and on this edit, the name "123johnpaul" appeared next to his sig. Smashbro told me about it and his (Liquid4life) first reaction was to say "I am not his sockpuppet" (+ an emoticon as he likes), and removed the "123johnpaul"here. I'd say we've uncovered another sockpuppet. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 22:06, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Another sockpuppet...A user named Joanathan6506 has been banned a while ago by Thomas0802 for violating the image policy. He has made his second sockpuppet account. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 12:46, November 11, 2014 (UTC)


It may be a dumb question, but why don't we use this as a welcome message instead of the (short) usual one ? Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 15:01, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'd like that. Instead of a short and not-so helpful message getting a large welcome message with more indications looks better. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 19:43, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Claude Speede

Already blocked two times for edit warring. Regularly adding unsourced Beta content. I recently left him a message to tell him to provide source not to get his edits reverted, but nothing works; I reverted one of his edits and he still put back his unsourced content.
Needs to be dealt with. Thanks. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:00, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Actually Rain, he's been blocked three times already, now he really needs a indefinite block, no more wiki for him Signature (Talk) 16:03, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Be aware that he'll create a sockpuppet account, just to resume his ineffable ways of adding unsourced beta-related edits. Just a heads up. "Don't worry,--File:4-300x216.jpg--it's only collateral damage." 05:43, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sure. I may not be able to track his IP, but I can keep an eye out for him, making similar edits, even though others will be ahead of me. "Don't worry,--File:4-300x216.jpg--it's only collateral damage." 01:46, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Still hasn't got the message. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 12:01, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

New editor

Hi Tom,

I'm a little confused with this flash new editor the Wiki is using. I haven't used it much yet so I'm still learning the ropes. Is it still possible to attach a link with a different wording in the text of the page - similar to how it was done in the old editor? For example, can have a link to "Cluckin' Bell" appear as "chicken restaurant" on the page? Enigma24 (talk) 23:12, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Ilan once attempted to add it (I noticed there was already a community discussion a while ago about it, and the result was positive), but reverted it for some reason. If you intend to put it, tell me first because I have made a shorter/cleaner variant, that might be better (if you want to check it, it is in the bottom of my sandbox. Thanks. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 08:27, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

I have added an image to make the message look like "less empty". We can obviously pick another one but I think adding an image to the template is much better.
PS: User:UnregisteredSexOffender has a rather inappropriate username. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 08:04, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
I made this, it's a few screengrabs from GTA V artworks that we might use for Welcome messages. If you think one fits well, it's all yours. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 16:37, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
I asked Ilan for his opinion, he suggested this as the Welcome image (it comes from the same artwork as your avatar). And he unlocked the Wanted Level in GTA V page, and guess what, ArtificalPro is definitely JohnPaul. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 20:29, November 25, 2014 (UTC)


This user is causing vandalism, please block him for good Signature (Talk) 02:53, November 22, 2014 (UTC)


This look like 123johnpaul, doesn't it? Check his contribs, they are very johnpaul-ish. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 14:05, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

It's one of 4 possibilities, JP being one of them, but he wasn't my 1st choice. Smurfynz (talk) 21:46, November 23, 2014 (UTC) 

Who do you think it is? Tom Talk 23:29, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
I didn't really dig too far, but when I saw him join and virtually the 1st thing he did was: [1]  and create an underage template, my spidey senses started tingling :) Also check his Club Penguin history compared to a couple of other recent nuisances (XP/RS). JP is certainly a possibility though, based on timings (block vs join) Smurfynz (talk) 23:37, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
Having now dug a little deeper, I would tend to lean towards JP after all. :) Smurfynz (talk) 02:03, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
Hook, line and sinker, too easy. Thanks Ilan for unlocking the bait (although I do have valid edits to make tomorrow). smurfy (coms) Vote: How old is Michael? 13:16, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
That can be only him. Typical "JohnPaul" sky is blue trivia on the same page. A block has to be issued. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 17:29, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Tom. smurfy (coms) 23:45, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Parent Page

Hi Tom,

This is Knakveey from Wikia's Community Dev team. With your permission/help, we were hoping to put up a ParentPage on this particular wiki. Here is an example of a very thorough ParentPage. However, it can be as simple as this template. This will probably take up to an hour to do if you follow the simple template. I'd prefer that you or one of your admins do this if possible, since they know more about the series. Otherwise, I'm happy to do the work myself. Let me know if this will be ok with you and here is an FAQ in regards to what ParentPages are.

Thanks a bunch,

Knakveey (talk) 22:42, November 24, 2014 (UTC)Knakveey

Michael age vote on his talk page

Hey Tom. There is a vote going on about how Michael's age should be presented on Michael's talk page. Go check it out for yourself, and a vote would be appreciated. Maybe even spread it out to a more visible page rather than the talk page, like on the main page. Thanks ;) DrewieStewie 23:58, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Voting is pretty clear-cut at the moment. smurfy (coms) Vote: How old is Michael? 07:26, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Cool, can you update the page and the infobox (since I can only change the page text, not the infobox)? smurfy (coms) 23:45, November 25, 2014 (UTC)


Ohhh, sorry for the late reply; missed your message. Anyways, nope, there is no reason for why this template isn't used as the welcome message; if I remember correctly, we voted in favor of it. However, I tried to put it as the welcome message once or twice, but it didn't appear. Maybe we should ask from Dodo. It is more or less his forte, after all. -- iLan (XDEdits ) 13:21, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for the welcoming message. I appreciate it a lot. :)

IDanny (talk) 15:20, November 25, 2014 (UTC)


Do you think its possible, for GTA V to realase for the Wii U? Or is it just a rumor?, I dont know though, Nintendo said they have a good chance of gta v coming to Wii U, but rockstar yet did not confirmed, I know its weird playing GTA on Wii, but games like manhunt came out on it. Do you think its possible It can come out on the Wii U? ArtificalPro (talk) 20:21, November 25, 2014 (UTC)ArtificalPro 

Dude Why?

Hi man can u tell me why you deleted my Cop 55 page? i mean bacause it was a real car that was cut from the game and the sound was found in the files.

Why did you deleted it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockstarFanboy (talkcontribs)

Image policy and 1080p captures from PS4

I've been second-guessing myself about uploading the HD (1080p) capture images from PS4 without downsizing. I know all the Rockstar screenshots that have been re-published here were 1080p but I am a bit dubious they fit the wiki fair use policy. If you guys are happy with them, I'll keep doing it (with a clearer conscience). smurfy (coms) 02:43, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Message

Alright, it's made up and all good to go. One thing: JohnPaul made a new sock.

Here is the message you need to insert in MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user (switch in source editor and copy the source code).
Ilan took care of it, it should be working now. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 18:54, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic. Although there is just a minor error to fix: there is a "Manual of Styleto" instead of "Manual of Style to". Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 20:55, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Street Names

Hi, could you rename these articles? Dutch London St, Calais Ave, Jamestown St and Chupacabra St don't follow the same format of the other pages. Also, Caesar Place should be renamed Caesars Place. Thanks! DocVinewood (talk) 16:03, November 28, 2014 (UTC)


Here is one more sockpuppet for JP (I had doubts about it, but looking at his contribs it's him). It'll be good to lock this Wanted Level in GTA V page since he's there only to add his usual nonsense in the same page. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 13:20, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

And, yet another one.

And, by the way, his unsubtle accusations against JohnnyD are obviously nonsense.  smurfy (coms) 02:47, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Nonsense editor

Here. Has ignored warnings from Rainingpain and I. Can you perhaps give him a more strenuous talking to? I don't know if I'd call him a vandal, his intentions may be genuine, but it's mostly just wrong. 90% of his edits get reverted.  smurfy (coms) 11:24, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Final Intro Cutscene still need to be deleted though. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 22:19, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
PS: I caught what appears to be Claude Speede's sockpuppet. Name's User:Pastor Richards. Very similar contribs. Check by yourself then decide. Jugg RainingPain17 Talk 23:28, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

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