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Welcome to '''GTA Wiki's Community noticeboard'''.
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Welcome to '''GTA Wiki's Community Noticeboard'''.
   
 
'''Archives'''
 
'''Archives'''
*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 1|Archive 1]] ''(June 2011 - July 2011)''
*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 2|Archive 2]] ''(July 2011 - April 2012)''
*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 3|Archive 3]] ''(November 2012 - June 2013)''
*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 4|Archive 4]] ''(June 2013 - August 2013)''
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 5|Archive 5]] ''(August 2013 - January 2014)''
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 6|Archive 6]] ''(January 2014 - January 2015)''
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 7|Archive 7]] ''(January 2015 - April 2015)''
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 8|Archive 8]] ''(May 2015 - October 2015)''
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*[[GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard/Archive 9|Archive 9]] ''(October 2015 - March 2016)''
 
Talk page rules apply here.
 
Talk page rules apply here.
   
 
This noticeboard is for discussion and voting on changes to the wiki, reporting vandalism and wiki rule breaking, and reporting bad or unfair behaviour from GTA Wiki staff.
 
This noticeboard is for discussion and voting on changes to the wiki, reporting vandalism and wiki rule breaking, and reporting bad or unfair behaviour from GTA Wiki staff.
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Votes for the expiration of a Patroller's probation will also be held here.
   
 
For requests for promotion, please go to '''[[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]'''.
 
For requests for promotion, please go to '''[[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]'''.
 
We currently have a lot of staff so there will be no more Patroller requests for a while. Current Patrollers may request to be promoted to Admin status by voting on the Requests for Promotion Page.
 
   
 
'''Voting Rules'''<br />
 
'''Voting Rules'''<br />
 
Since voting about a change can cause arguments, here are the rules.
 
Since voting about a change can cause arguments, here are the rules.
 
*Anyone can start a topic for a community vote.
 
*Anyone can start a topic for a community vote.
*Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another users vote.
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*Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another user's vote.
 
*Voting usually lasts 3 to 5 days.
 
*Voting usually lasts 3 to 5 days.
   
==Featured Images==
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'''Please input your new requests above the old ones. That way, we can easily spot it rather than looking for it.'''
Hi guys. Basically, I think that we should take down the Featured Images section of the main page. I think this because I believe that it looks messy, boring and frankly, I never notice it. So yeah, I think it should be taken down. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 16:55, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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==[[Grand Theft Auto V/Title Update Notes]] Page Improvement==
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No big explanation needed about the problems with the page because... well, [[Talk:Grand Theft Auto V/Title Update Notes|it's been discussed a bunch of times, always leading with Smurfynz being "right"]]. I lay forth three ideas on how we can improve the page:
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#We make seperate pages of the title update notes in the year they were released in. For example: [[Grand Theft Auto V/Title Update Notes - 2013]].
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#Or we dedicate each update list with their own page.
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#Or we use tabbers for each of the update list section... which I suggested, but y'know, Smurfy would rather go offroading in a [http://dailynewsdig.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/phantom-donk-575x303.png Rolls-Royce Phantom donk] than to have that.
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Lemme know which idea you want by voting '''Idea''' '''1, 2, '''or''' 3''' (or by '''one, two, '''or''' three'''). --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 02:23, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:09, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Idea 1''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 02:55, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''Idea 1''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 06:11, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''1''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:41, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Could Be''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Idea 1''' --<span style="background-color:transparent; border:4px ridge limegreen;">[[File:MH007Signature.png|0x20px]] [[User:MythHunter 007|<span style="color:;">'''MythHunter 007'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MythHunter 007|<span style="color:;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> [[File:MH007Signature.png|0x20px]]</span> 11:07, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Idea 1''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 11:11, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*Yeah, maybe change it to the latest screenshots of GTA V? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*The first option seems to have a lot of potential. Users would be more interested in the latest updates and this would be easy for navigation. However, the third one is still a good option. Either case, it is better than cluttering the current page, to the point it will be stuck forever. <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 02:55, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
**Agree [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:25, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*Idea 1 is both the most logical and efficient for organisation and layout. Sure it'll work. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 06:11, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
*Latest screenshots sounds good. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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==Bot Jobs==
*I agree with the idea, and Instu's idea is good too, but I think the purpose of that particular section is showing "good quality" images, I think that's the only reason for it being placed there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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:'''''Closed as <font color=limegreen>Please refer to my talk page for specifying jobs</font> by''''' <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:06, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
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Please specify here what you would like the Wiki bot to do. I ain't very good at programming, so I'm taking it one step at a time, running a few trials soon. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 12:58, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
   
==Introducing the new Welcome Automessage!==
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:Could you contact staff so they can give your bot a bot tag? It's pretty hard to keep up with the wiki activity since the bot edits clog up both WikiActivity and RecentChanges. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 16:30, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 9 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
Ladies and Gents. [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]] and I have here, the wiki's replacement to that redundant and old automated message. '''The [[Template:Welcome]]'''. This will get the wiki's contributors more interested in editing and will flourish a lot of trusted editors, let alone Staff. Please imput your votes about adding this message in lieu of the old automated message and comments about this template below. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 07:29, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
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::Um, they already flagged the bot. Is that what you mean by Bot Tag? <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:32, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Of course!''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Nice one guys''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes from me - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 13:58, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Triple Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:04, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
   
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:::Bot tag is a user right tag which means the bot edits don't show up in WikiActivty and only show up in RecentChanges if the "Show Bots" option is tagged. So far I can see bot edits everywhere and according to [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3AMonkeyBot188&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= this page] it isn't flagged. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 16:34, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
   
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:::That's odd, I received an email saying it had been flagged. I've paused the bot in the mean time, and asked Sannse to tag it. Thanks Rain. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:38, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
   
===Comments===
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===Jobs===
*Sure, go ahead. [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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* <s>Remove images from these categories: [[:Category:4-Door Sedans and Coupes]], [[:Category:2-Door Sedans and Coupes]] and [[:Category:Exclusive Enhanced Version Content in GTA Online]]</s>. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|<font size="4" face="Trebuchet MS">'''TGS96'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''stalk'''</font>]]</sup> 13:10, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*I've corrected the links to Staff pages so there aren't any dead links, all it needs now is a link to the policy and I think it'll be very good. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*It'me again: <s>Replace [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Image_policy this template] with the new [[Template:ImageLicense|image license]] template</s>. BTW, the bot is awesome. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|<font size="4" face="Trebuchet MS">'''TGS96'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''stalk'''</font>]]</sup> 14:08, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*The template looks very great and that would be an amazing Welcome Automessage, the new user will read it and maybe this template will reduce the vandalism or wrong-editing or false-content adding to the Wiki. Unbelievable amazing. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*Italicate "<nowiki>==Grand Theft Auto</nowiki>==" <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:05, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*I like it! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*Various common spelling mistakes to be found and fixed. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:05, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*It took you a while to finish it, Tony, but it's great!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
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*Replace <nowiki><gallery></nowiki> with <nowiki><gallery position="center"></nowiki> <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:06, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
*Looks good! Maybe add a splash of colour to it? :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Since this template amassed some positive reviews, we should proceed on adding it to'' mediawiki.css,'' but let's wait for a couple days until we get the whole staff a chance to look. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 00:06, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I like that idea of yours Tony! [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Staff status==
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==GTA Wiki Bot==
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - 4 votes of 'No' and 2 votes of 'Yes' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey guys, so I've decided to go ahead after a discussion off-site with VaultBoy, and consider creating a bot. I believe McJeff once had one and it turned out well, and Tom also was gonna create one a while back, but forgot. What do you guys think? No votes, just comments - for now. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:12, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
The status of the staff member should be written under his name, to let any user know who to contact form staff members. A lot of wikis have done this thing, one of them is the [[w:c:battlefield|Battlefield Wiki]], see there [[w:c:battlefield:Battlefield Wiki:Administrators|staff]].
 
 
for example:
 
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center" style="font-size:90%"
 
|[[File:McJeff-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:McJeff|125px]]
 
|[[File:Messi1983-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:Messi1983]]
 
|[[File:TheTom-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:The Tom]]
 
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!{{Flagicon|United States of America|Flag of the United States}} [[User:McJeff|McJeff]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:The Tom|The Tom]]<br />Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
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{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center" style="font-size:90%"
 
|[[File:LS11sVaultBoy-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:LS11sVaultBoy|125px]]
 
|[[File:MikeyKlebbitz-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Mikey Klebbitz|125px]]
 
|[[File:WinterMoon-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Winter Moon|125px]]
 
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!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Portugal|Flag of Portugal}} [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Unknown|Unknown}} [[User:Winter Moon|Winter Moon]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
|}
 
--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 01:03, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*I don't see the point, considering that most of us are active. Adding this would promote patrollers to write demotions against semi-active admins/bureaucrats.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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*I thought about using a bot a while ago when I decided to get rid of these non-existent categories: [[:Category:4-Door Sedans and Coupes]], [[:Category:2-Door Sedans and Coupes]] and [[:Category:Exclusive Enhanced Version Content in GTA Online]]. It is a pain to manually remove them from all the images they are listed in (over 1400 images, which is why I gave up), so we can use a bot to get this job done quicker than any normal user. Yep, a bot can be useful. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|<font size="4" face="Trebuchet MS">'''TGS96'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''stalk'''</font>]]</sup> 14:14, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
*Well, I agree with Dodo. Besides it, I don't think Messi is semi-active. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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**I second that. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 15:11, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
*As per Dodo. Plus, Tommy, check Dan's page. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*A bot will be good for doing tedious and boring tasks (like adding categories), so yeah, why not? [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 15:19, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
*I think it is actually quite a good idea. It helps users learn about the staff more and helps them know what member of staff is active for them to talk to, incase they are in need of help. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*With comments like this, I'll start at the weekend some time. It'll be named MonkeyBot188. Wild, how can I get it to do tasks like that, btw? <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:21, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
*I don't see the point in doing this, either. [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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**Honestly? I don't know. :p I'm not that great at programming. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 15:36, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
*It is what it is. If a user needs help and messages a semi-active staff member, then the whole purpose of the staff is pointless. The user doesn't get help, and if a semi active alert was in place, that user would get a quick response from an active staff member. Why cripple the system? Lets improve it! [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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***No trouble mate. See, I'm gonna talk to Staff about making one, and I was thinking of just creating the account, getting the basics sorted, then from there, slowly improvise with it to get the most of its functions, with the programming and such. It requires a .net extension download which I think does most of the word for you. I'll look into it more over the coming days. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:44, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
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****[[w:c:c:Help:Bots|This covers most of the basics]]. {{Signatures/RainingPain17}} 18:00, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
==Adding flags to the different language GTA Wikis==
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==New policy(ies) + Demotion system overhaul==
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 3 votes of 'Yes', one vote of 'Undecided' and 0 votes of 'No' --[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 17:00, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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:'''''Closed as <font color=limegreen>Successful</font> by''''' <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:12, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
I got this idea. We should add the flag icon near the name of the different language GTA Wikis.
 
   
for example:
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Yo guys. So, I've decided to create a new policy (two really, in the same page since they're relatively similar). Firstly, '''oddjob-ing'''. Don't be fooled by the rather humorous name. Oddjob-ing is the act of staff members carrying out minor edits on only a monthly basis to secure their staff position. Minor edits are usually coding fixes, unnoticeable spacing errors, or general single-instance grammar fixes on articles. Users caught doing this over a few month's time should be treated as inactive and a demotion should be filed against them. I have several staff in mind that act in such a way.
   
<span style="text-align:center;">The GTA Wiki is also available in:</span>[[file:Flag of Spain.svg|20px|link=http://es.gta.wikia.com/wiki/]][http://es.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Español], [[file:Flag of Italy.svg|20px|link=http://it.gta.wikia.com/wiki/]][http://it.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Italiana], [[file:Flag of Portugal.svg|20px|link=http://pt.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ ]][http://pt.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Português], [[file:Flag of Iraq.svg|20px|link=http://ar.gta.wikia.com]][http://ar.gta.wikia.com عربية].
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Similarly, my second part of the policy, '''Jobsworth-ing''' is the act of staff (only those who follow the first policy above) making edits which otherwise ''break'' articles, be it link errors (no, not incorrect links. Link errors where coding is exposed), template errors, or file breaking, and then the failure of fixing the article before becoming inactive once again. This policy demonstrates the lack of care and attention inactive staff have, outlining their poor use of revision check, and lastly, their lack of inactivity to fix such edits.
   
--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] (<span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">[[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]]</span><span class="ts-slide">[[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]</span></span>) 00:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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On that note, it brings me onto my last proposal: demotion overhaul. Currently, Admins are demoted after 3 month's inactivity - this doesn't need to be changed (well, see the bottom of this proposal). What '''does''' need to be changed is the exception made for patrollers under such circumstances. Patrollers are currently given a 3 month basis before they're declared inactive. But they aren't demoted. So, under that rule, forgive me if I'm wrong, but that effectively means a patroller can become inactive for 1 million years and still hold their staff position. Clearly hasn't been a policy taken into mind for JBanton and several former patrollers who were demoted for lack of activity, therefore this proves we need to stop making exceptions and nail down a firm policy to correctly handle inactive staff - patrollers. I propose the same rule as Administrator demotion applies to Patrollers - 3 month's inactivity results in demotion. As for Admins, I'd say demotion to powerusers, not Patrollers - inactive staff don't deserve to keep some form of staff position, even if it's lower in hierarchy.
   
===Votes===
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That's me done. Cast your votes and comments on the change. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 05:47, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:24, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Undecided''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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====Votes====
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:01, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' --<span style="background-color:transparent; border:4px ridge limegreen;">[[File:MH007Signature.png|0x20px]] [[User:MythHunter 007|<span style="color:;">'''MythHunter 007'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MythHunter 007|<span style="color:;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> [[File:MH007Signature.png|0x20px]]</span> 09:52, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 10:43, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Thegtaseeker96|<font size="4" face="Trebuchet MS">'''TGS96'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''stalk'''</font>]]</sup> 14:18, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>Mr. Ferrari</b></font>]] <sup>([[User talk: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS">talk</font>]])</sup> 17:36, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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====Comments====
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*Just to be clear on the maintenance of this, users who go against the 2 new policies will be alerted that they are nearing the boundaries of the issue, then eventually be demoted if they continue to do so for a month more. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 05:57, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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*I agree and I propose something more: a special warning template only applied to Staff Members when they break these policies. This could be useful to notify the inactive staffer and also for other users (not only Staff) to keep track of the situation should he decides to reapply or request a promotion. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|<font size="4" face="Trebuchet MS">'''TGS96'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Thegtaseeker96|<font face="Century Gothic" color="Gold">'''stalk'''</font>]]</sup> 14:18, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
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**Nope, not necessary at all. It's not a policy you can "break", it's a strict guideline rather than a policy. No need for an optimised warning template. A simple reminder will do just fine. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:28, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
   
*Seriously, why are all your projects related to the templates I created?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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==Map Overhaul==
**Believe me it's nothing related to you, I saw the [http://pl.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Polish GTA Wiki] has done this thing. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 09:48, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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Not many of you may have used the [[Special:Maps|Maps]] feature here, but after noticing how bland and out-of date the maps are (mostly), I've decided to have a massive revamp of them. I recently started by deleting some of the current maps so I could get fresh new copies. It will take a while, but I'm thinking of getting all games' maps into the maps feature. There's currently a map glitch which prevents me from uploading NEW maps (only using the supplied templates is possible ATM), which Wikia staff are aware of and have told me they'll fix it ASAP. The project will be put off a little because of this, but I don't even think this needs a vote - it's self explanatory - I'm doing it anyway xD <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:05, March 28, 2016 (UTC)
***Yes, but you're using my [[Template:Flagicon|template]]. Anyways...
 
****The template is not 100% needed we can replace it with 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****I replaced the template with a 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:36, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*See, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I've came to the conclusion that there is no reason not to have these flags there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes, but not the normal flags. Real flags have different ratios, and look odd. If the request is approved I'll search for some other flag pictures.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Search for whatever you search for that's why you're the expert! Btw how can you know the codes of the colors? is it Wikia Developers Wiki? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 19:33, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It seems like an unnecessary feature to me, I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, so I'll assume it's just cosmetic. I don't feel strongly enough either way to actually vote so I'll leave this with everyone else. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:31, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*According Tom's opinion, I don't think it's really necessary. But maybe it should help users to search the Wiki quickly. I'll think a little more. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Affiliations to R* games' Wikis==
 
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - five votes of 'No', and only four votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:43, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
This is a big project, like Rockstar Games has been developing games for more than ten years, Rockstar made a lot of fans around the world. Most of the users here on the GTA Wikia integrate with other Wikis too, most of them are from R* games. I'm giving the idea, that we should make affiliations to Wikis that are from Rockstar content. They are so good like us and most of our users, even Staff members, contribute to those Wikis, I'm proposing, that we should show our loyalty to these Wikis and that will maybe make us more noted by the other Wikis. The proposes are the Max Payne Wiki, Red Dead Wiki, Rockstar Games Wiki, L.A Noire Wiki, Bully Wiki, Manhunt Wiki and Midnight Club Wiki.
 
 
:Note : If you want to strike one of the Wikis that you disagree with affiliation or you find not good or elevated, comment in the comments section and maybe we can create an extra discussion page for it. So let's show that we are a graceful Wiki and we want to show generosity to other R* Games too.
 
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 18:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No '''- [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 20:05, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 12:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No (for most of them [read my comment])''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' (for most of them) -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*This is a great idea. We should affiliate with each one of them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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**I think I'm changing my mind we should affiliate with R* games wiki only because we have a lot of shared articles with R* wiki. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:09, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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==Badges==
*I agree with you on affiliating with only R* produced games. I love the idea of linking up all the R* games wikis as that will create a great network for fans to easily navigate from on to another. Great proposal of killing seven birds with on stone. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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''Closed as '''unsuccessful''' by'' [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 11:55, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*This would attract new users to the GTA Wiki and the same to others. It's a win-win situation.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*All my prior comments about 'affiliated wikis' stand. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Wait, wait. All the R* Wiki'''s'''? I thought it's the actual Rockstar Wiki (the text was too long to read). It's a '''No''' from me.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> ''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''
 
*The Rockstar Games Wiki, is OK, since it's run by Ilan and Bunny, but the rest, I'm not sure... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**The Max Payne Wiki and the Red Dead Wiki are also okay. I serve as an admin on both.
 
***Hmm...sometimes I go to Red Dead and L. A. Noire, but not usually to Max Payne...are you sure? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It looks like most of the people accept only an affiliation the with [http://rockstargames.wikia.com/wiki/Rockstar_Games_Wiki Rockstar Games Wiki]. I'll wait a little more and see what we can do. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 14:57, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Yes, only Rockstar Games Wiki.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*Yes for Rockstar Games, Max Payne, Red Dead and L.A.Noire. No for the others. Manhunt Wiki is a fucking disaster and has no active admins and/or useful editors. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
**What about the Agent Wiki, Ilan? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*This Noticeboard is getting a little bit dusty, isn't? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 22:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==New Templates (Inactive staff members)==
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Why don't this wiki have any badges. I think it should have badges. Badges will increase the users here. [[User:Myth hunting master|Fear The Thunder]]
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - six votes of 'No' and only two votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:41, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
I have created template for inactive [[GTA Wiki:Staff|staff]] members, and I hope you count them as official templates
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Patroller (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Administrator (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Bureaucrat (inactive)}}
 
</pre>
 
 
-[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:59, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''Yes (with a sprinkle of No)''' -- [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''NO''' - [[User: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>Mr. Ferrari</b></font>]] <sup>([[User talk: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS">talk</font>]])</sup> 19:35, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes (with a notice)''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 19:59, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Not Really...''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 20:57, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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*'''Yes (conditional)''' - [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 09:19, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 19:27, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No (Never)''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 09:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No''' - [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 11:53, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Comments===
 
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*I agree with adding it, but most of us just state reasons why we are inactive so the users' acquaintances won't worry on what he/she/it is inactive for. --[[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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*What? You mean leader-board achievements? So what, people can points-game? Absolutely '''NO''' way. No. Just no. [[User: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>Mr. Ferrari</b></font>]] <sup>([[User talk: That Ferrari Guy|<font face="Comic Sans MS">talk</font>]])</sup> 19:35, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
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*I don't know what do you mean with "badges" on the wiki. - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 20:57, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
*Nice idea Rhem. I completely agree with it. I just want to notice it that this template should be locked and only staff members can use it if they become inactive. Actually I think too that the normal templates for B'cat, admin and patroller should be locked too. BTW it is possible to lock a template? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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**I believe that "[[User:Myth hunting master|Myth hunting master]]" is referring to achievement badges, such as the ones on our sister wiki, [[w:c:gta-myths|GTA Myths Wiki]]. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 09:31, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
**Only admins can lock templates -- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:01, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*I am willing to have badges on this wiki, but only for a very restricted scope of achievements: namely the number of edits and perhaps edits to specific page categories. We already have edit badges as Userboxes, so I do not see why we cannot have a very small number (perhaps no more than 10-20, or perhaps even as little as four (one for each edit milestone - 500, 1,000, 5,000 and 10,000)) for a bit of material for bragging rights, but no more. This should prevent any "points-gaming", but also allow for a little something for editors on this wiki to work for. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 09:19, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
***Although the votes have all been positive so far, I think there should be at least 5 votes before closing this. If the templates are approved, I'll lock them. I, myself, think that adding a note to the talk page would get the job done, but I think it'd be best if we waited for (at least) three more votes. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*We've been asked this millions of times before, and I can't emphasise enough how much bullshit it causes.
*I created this one a while ago: [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And no offense intended, but don't call yourself a template expert when everything you did was to change the text.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
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:# Pointgaming, as Ferrari already pointed out, is too much to cope with, especially on a wiki that is (usually) very hectic and active. A wiki with hundreds of users, and hundreds of active users, means this is bound to be misused.
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:# Competition - There's literally no point, some of these badges are just out of pure LUCK, so really it's hardly even fair.
**I have an idea but the original staff templates have to be unlocked --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:49, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:# Users will have to "start again" - What about me? ZS? GTAInc? Wild? Tom? Why introduce this ''now'', after we've all gained thousands of edits? It's ridiculous. Userbox "badges" are enough. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 09:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
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*As far as I know, Konan, the limitation of badges is pretty hard, as you'd have to individually delete badges (they automatically add to the wiki when activated - loads of them). Also, there are no milestone badges AFAIK - only "you made the 1000th/2000th/3000th edit" kind of thing (out of pure luck). <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 09:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*@Cloud as much I love 'fuck no' votes, I'm changing it to 'No'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:38, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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**I see. Admittedly, I know very little of how the badges system works "under the hood", but I still feel that a very limited amount of badges will do this wiki some good. I do not know exactly how difficult it is to actually remove unwanted badges, but surely there should be a way to delete them en masse? If not, and if it is too difficult to implement the feature as desired, perhaps you are right, and the badges should not be enabled. Also, do not badges automatically get awarded to users who already meet the prerequisites for earning them once the feature is turned on? I would assume that they would. Finally, with regards to your point about this wiki being very active, I wish to note that one of the other wikis that I occasionally edit on ([[w:c:halo|Halo Nation]]) does have badges, and like this wiki, is also very active, yet still ordered. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 10:35, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
*Can any active admin unlock staff templates, I won't vandal them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:57, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*Over the last few years, this has come up again and again. The reason that everyone agreed on a few years ago was that we would never have badges because it would seriously mess up the wiki; users would be coming to pointsgame and won't be editing just to increase the quality. For example, Wildbrick added over 1,000 (maybe 2,000) images to the wiki last month, not for edits but for quality, whereas if we had badges he may have done that just to fly up the leaderboard and the images may have been of terrible quality. The only reason Myths Wiki has them is because it is a relatively small wiki compared to the GTA Wiki so bad edits are easier to track compared to on here. Also, as the Myths Wiki has seen countless times, pointsgaming and just general leaderboard position can lead to a lot of fights and people leaving. For a wiki the size of this one, badges are just a bad idea. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 11:53, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
:*Why do you want them unprotected? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:00, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:**Just unlock them it's a new idea non of the wikis have tried this, for examble 
 
<pre>
 
{{​Administrator}}
 
</pre>
 
 
or
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator|active}}
 
</pre>
 
 
gives the normal Admin template 
 
 
and 
 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator|inactive}}
 
</pre>
 
 
gives 
 
<pre>
 
{{Administrator (inactive)|inactive}}
 
</pre>
 
 
*Nope.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
 
**Why nope? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 15:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
***I already told you, check [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And it looks much better.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]] </span>''</sup>
 
 
****Your template gives the reason why the staff member is inactive, I can do that in the same template as the staff member, but the templates are still locked :( --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
****I prefer [[Template:Semi-Active|Dodo's template]]. It's cleaner and you can give your own reason why you're not on the wiki.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
****There really is no point with this inactive template proposal, as it will encourage inactivity, which is currently a problem on the wiki. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons==
 
I created this [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons|page]], and I hope you count it as an official manual of style. I know it's still not done yet, but I'm still working on it.
 
:[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
 
*Rhem, there's a problem: [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weaponry|this page]] already existed, Tony created it. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
**You decide which one to take, maybe we should have a community voting to decide which manual to take - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 20:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
***I'm not sure which to choose...they are very like, one another. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Rhem, you are obligated to import your added content that my page is lacking to my created MoS/W. [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:14, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Featured articles system==
 
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font>; 10 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 12:07, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:[http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_3#Featured_Article_section ''Previous discussion on the subject'']
 
 
So yes, I'm bringing this subject again, as it seems we have forgotten about. My one question for now is, do you want such feature on our wiki or not?
 
 
Yes, I know we need 'Manuals of Style' for several articles categories such as characters, missions, buisnesses, gangs/groups and a few more. No need for vehicles, [[User:JBanton|J]] created [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Vehicles|one]].
 
 
If you have any suggestions, post them here.
 
 
:-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 16:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:35, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:40, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 01:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 07:12, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:02, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:34, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*I think we could use those "Manuals of Style", and since GTA V is just around the corner, we could use with some guides that could help more un-experienced users (of course, the more experienced ones would follow the guides themselves, too). - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:38, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I think it would help readers if the articles for a certain discipline (i.e character, business) had a similar structure, so they can find information easily and conveniently, this is one benefit of having manuals of style. In order to help editors, having one over arching MoS that then contains links to more specific ones, [http://watch-dogs.wikia.com/wiki/Watch_Dogs_Wiki:Manual_of_Style sort of like this] (but more complete obviously) could help. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:48, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes of course, in each discipline/type this ''system'' should be followed, '''principally''' by missions. I see often the Trivia after the Video Walkthrough and etc... A order like =1. Mission, 2. Mission Objectives, 3. Reward, 4. Trivia, 5. Video W., 6. See also (References and link to detailed page of mission walkthrough) for example. And of course this Manual should be included in the Welcome Template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
:*Yeah, [[User:Tony 1998|T]] had already proposed that, I think he even created the template. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:15, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Two weeks ago I offered to help him, but he said he would do it by himself soon... Whenever that is.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
::*
 
*Also, I think next to the featured articles we should add a link to the BAWSAQ page. I could create a template to make it look like interactive (profit increses, decreases, etc.) These would be random but will look good and users will also be able to read about businesses in GTA V through the BAWSAQ page. Opinions?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Perfect idea, Mr. Financial hahahaha --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 20:06, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Good! I'll start working on the template!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
****This is how it will look:
 
[[File:Template-BAWSAQ-Beta.png|200px|center|border]]
 
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
 
*I think this wiki should have both featured articles and manual of style. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Sorry for not being around and not keeping my promises, I'm not active everyday, due to no Internet connection at my residence. For the Template:Welcome, I wrote the coding of a boarder outline on a piece of paper, which I keep on forgetting when I go to my town's public library once every week. And for the core Manual of Style; I'm working on it using paper. Once I learn to not forget my papers, I write the template coding on my Sandbox page and test it, whilist the MoS will be on here, the Community Noticeboard. [[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 23:53, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I'll start working on a manual of style for the character pages, then I'll move to the missions. Someone wanna take the business pages? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:08, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I could take a look at the business articles that we have now and maybe draft up an MoS for businesses? If we are going to have an MoS for weapons I would prefer to do that. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 07:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*You could take [[Fruit Computers in HD Universe]] asa an example for the Manual of Style, it's the most complete business page in my opinion.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*I'll take the gangs then. Just a question, should I make it only for the gangs, or the gangs AND the groups in the same MoS.?- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:51, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
**May I help for the gangs too? That's the one where I have more experience, I think.
 
***Alright, I'll start working on it tomorrow, but the [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Gangs|page]] is already created. If you could start adding info, I'd be thankful, Thomas. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 13:18, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I gave my idea for the neighborhoods' MoS, check [[User talk:Ilan xd|Ilan's talk page]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 23:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
==Thanks to the entire community==
 
 
This for once is not a voting matter, but an act of pure gratitude to the entire community. After notifying everyone of my holiday and absence the response was truly heart-warming. After reading all the comments I almost had a tear in my eye at how strong our community stands and how friendly and understanding our community is. Honestly, I don't know of an internet community that I'm as proud to be a part of as the GTA Wiki community. Thank you everyone. ''(My internet allowance is running thin now, so I'll probably be limited to one edit a week now at most :/)'' [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 19:03, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''You're welcome! '''- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:23, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Banana [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''You're welcome!''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*How's it going there, all good, JB (except for your internet connection, which I've already realized is clearly not) ? :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:25, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*No need to thank us Jonny :) Everyone is always looking out for everyone here.. thinking about it now, the GTAWiki is a rare breed :p [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Instu, I could say giggity to the breeding section of that so much! Also, have fun JB! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:30, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*We (the GTA Community) know that we are simply very greatful to good editors. You are a very nice admin and your edits here will be missing. BTW me and Instu, we will keep an eye in the users who are messing up the vehicle pages ;) --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==<span style="font-size:18px;">Warning and block templates</span>==
 
 
Now, this template idea I've come up with would benefit patrollers mostly. Lately, when such a patroller gives a user a warning most say <nowiki>''I'm going to tell a admin on you''</nowiki> etc and to me it sounds childish and not very professional but with this template, it's not only professional but it's a smart way to carry out such things. I've done a rough copy of the template seen down below. Let me know what you think down below. Cheers [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:02, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Warning===
 
 
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Warning|Template]] created with my help.</font>'''
 
 
;'''Usage Example'''
 
<nowiki>{{Warning|Violating [[GTA Wiki:Image Policy|Image Policy]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]}}</nowiki> produces:
 
{{Warning|Violating [[GTA Wiki:Image Policy|Image Policy]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]}}
 
[[Category:Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
 
</noinclude>
 
 
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
 
===Block===
 
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Block|Second template]] created.</font>'''
 
 
;'''Usage Example''';
 
<nowiki>{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}</nowiki> produces:
 
{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:11, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:10, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:19, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''YES''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 11:06, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 14:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:11, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*I agree, but this template should have colors like red and yellow to give it a nice look. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
**It's not meant to be nice and cute.. it's serves a purpose to tell people what right and what's wrong. BTW Thanks Dodo for helping :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:08, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
***The red color resembles warning messages, haven't you saw any stop or warning messages on the street? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Yes, but red to me seems like block. It's a warning to the user so I think yellow would fit perfectly. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:19, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Change "denying the policy" to "violation of policy". [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:13, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes I agree, but this template should be given in certain occasions. If a user (vandal) remove all the content from pages repetitively, then he should be blocked without warning. If he adds false information, messes up infobox and templates or has intolerant edits or something in this type, he should receive this template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I've changed the color of the border to yellow, and I have also replaced "denying" with "violating". I was thinking we should have a "Blocked" template too, where the vandal will be informed that he was blocked.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*I love the idea of it. Just one thing you need to change though. Instead of it saying "If you will repeat", it should just say "If you repeat". Good work though! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:21, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Done. I also added the "block" template.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*This template or both template needs section which rule did the user violated. For example this [[User:Sonicthered|user]] violated offcial policy for adding sexuall content, but he/she needs to know which rule did he/she breake.
 
for example:
 
 
<div style="border:2px solid #fddc00; padding:7px; margin-top:6px; -moz-border-radius:5px; -webkit-border-radius:5px;"><span style="color:silver">[[Image:Danger-icon.png|40x40px|right]] You have been '''warned''' for violating the '''[[GTA Wiki:Policy|policy]]'''. If you repeat your actions, you will be issued with a '''[[GTA Wiki:Blocking Policy|block]]'''.</span><br />'''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]]}}}''<br />'''Vilotaed rule:''' ''{{{2|Adding Pornographcal content}}}''<br />'''Issued by:''' {{{3|''[[User:Kingrhem]]''}}}</div>
 
 
 
**'''THAT IS THE POINT OF "GIVEN REASON"''''. And try to correct your grammar mistakes, there are plenty.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*** Agreeing with Dodo, what ''is'' the point of adding that when it's already stated on the top line? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:26, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****You can drop that point but the full reason should be given. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 10:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Yeah, the reason is given in the '''Given reason''' section.. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****It should be full, like this:
 
::::::: '''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]] by adding sexuall content}}}''. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] 11:10, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::*That was just an example, that's how it was supposed to look from the start. You started an useless topic, Kingrhem. And it's "sexual", not "sexuall". See the [[User:Rockfan555|warning]] I left to this user who violated the policy.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
:::::::**Look, if I wrote words with wrong grammar, that because of either being haungry, sleepy or have to hurry up, at the time I had all three reasons. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:27, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Nice, both templates. I just think there should be a different template exclusive for image policy, because it's a different case where most of new users still not understanding. If he violates the image policy, he should receive the image policy template, if repeated, the warning template. Actually I think that new users will feel a little afraid if they are threatened with a block because of image policy. BTW could you guys check my new gallery? :D --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 12:28, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Thomas, that's what the warning template is for.. ;) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:16, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I agree with the idea. But the argument above was rather silly... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:55, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*It was not silly because image policy is an error that every new user does at the begin. This happens more than two or three times and it would be a little bit rude if we block someone for such a thing without a right and clear information. We are encouraging users to continue editing, and not block them directly for things they don't know. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:11, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::*First of, Thomas, bullet your comments. Secondly, I think you are a bit confuse: "argument" in english also means "zanga, discussão" in portuguese, whereas "argumento" in portuguese means "point" (as in "That's a good point"). I'm not talking about what you said, OK. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::*Understood. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:33, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::*Boa. :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Grand Theft Auto V/Title Update Notes Page ImprovementEdit

No big explanation needed about the problems with the page because... well, it's been discussed a bunch of times, always leading with Smurfynz being "right". I lay forth three ideas on how we can improve the page:

  1. We make seperate pages of the title update notes in the year they were released in. For example: Grand Theft Auto V/Title Update Notes - 2013.
  2. Or we dedicate each update list with their own page.
  3. Or we use tabbers for each of the update list section... which I suggested, but y'know, Smurfy would rather go offroading in a Rolls-Royce Phantom donk than to have that.

Lemme know which idea you want by voting Idea 1, 2, or 3 (or by one, two, or three). --Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 02:23, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

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CommentsEdit

  • The first option seems to have a lot of potential. Users would be more interested in the latest updates and this would be easy for navigation. However, the third one is still a good option. Either case, it is better than cluttering the current page, to the point it will be stuck forever. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 02:55, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Idea 1 is both the most logical and efficient for organisation and layout. Sure it'll work. Monk Talk 06:11, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Bot JobsEdit

Closed as Please refer to my talk page for specifying jobs by Monk Talk 21:06, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Please specify here what you would like the Wiki bot to do. I ain't very good at programming, so I'm taking it one step at a time, running a few trials soon. Monk Talk 12:58, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Could you contact staff so they can give your bot a bot tag? It's pretty hard to keep up with the wiki activity since the bot edits clog up both WikiActivity and RecentChanges. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 16:30, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
Um, they already flagged the bot. Is that what you mean by Bot Tag? Monk Talk 16:32, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
Bot tag is a user right tag which means the bot edits don't show up in WikiActivty and only show up in RecentChanges if the "Show Bots" option is tagged. So far I can see bot edits everywhere and according to this page it isn't flagged. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 16:34, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
That's odd, I received an email saying it had been flagged. I've paused the bot in the mean time, and asked Sannse to tag it. Thanks Rain. Monk Talk 16:38, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

JobsEdit

GTA Wiki BotEdit

Hey guys, so I've decided to go ahead after a discussion off-site with VaultBoy, and consider creating a bot. I believe McJeff once had one and it turned out well, and Tom also was gonna create one a while back, but forgot. What do you guys think? No votes, just comments - for now. Monk Talk 11:12, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • I thought about using a bot a while ago when I decided to get rid of these non-existent categories: Category:4-Door Sedans and Coupes, Category:2-Door Sedans and Coupes and Category:Exclusive Enhanced Version Content in GTA Online. It is a pain to manually remove them from all the images they are listed in (over 1400 images, which is why I gave up), so we can use a bot to get this job done quicker than any normal user. Yep, a bot can be useful. TGS96 talk stalk 14:14, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • I second that. Sam Talk 15:11, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • A bot will be good for doing tedious and boring tasks (like adding categories), so yeah, why not? V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 15:19, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • With comments like this, I'll start at the weekend some time. It'll be named MonkeyBot188. Wild, how can I get it to do tasks like that, btw? Monk Talk 15:21, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • Honestly? I don't know. :p I'm not that great at programming. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 15:36, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
      • No trouble mate. See, I'm gonna talk to Staff about making one, and I was thinking of just creating the account, getting the basics sorted, then from there, slowly improvise with it to get the most of its functions, with the programming and such. It requires a .net extension download which I think does most of the word for you. I'll look into it more over the coming days. Monk Talk 15:44, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

New policy(ies) + Demotion system overhaulEdit

Closed as Successful by Monk Talk 11:12, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

Yo guys. So, I've decided to create a new policy (two really, in the same page since they're relatively similar). Firstly, oddjob-ing. Don't be fooled by the rather humorous name. Oddjob-ing is the act of staff members carrying out minor edits on only a monthly basis to secure their staff position. Minor edits are usually coding fixes, unnoticeable spacing errors, or general single-instance grammar fixes on articles. Users caught doing this over a few month's time should be treated as inactive and a demotion should be filed against them. I have several staff in mind that act in such a way.

Similarly, my second part of the policy, Jobsworth-ing is the act of staff (only those who follow the first policy above) making edits which otherwise break articles, be it link errors (no, not incorrect links. Link errors where coding is exposed), template errors, or file breaking, and then the failure of fixing the article before becoming inactive once again. This policy demonstrates the lack of care and attention inactive staff have, outlining their poor use of revision check, and lastly, their lack of inactivity to fix such edits.

On that note, it brings me onto my last proposal: demotion overhaul. Currently, Admins are demoted after 3 month's inactivity - this doesn't need to be changed (well, see the bottom of this proposal). What does need to be changed is the exception made for patrollers under such circumstances. Patrollers are currently given a 3 month basis before they're declared inactive. But they aren't demoted. So, under that rule, forgive me if I'm wrong, but that effectively means a patroller can become inactive for 1 million years and still hold their staff position. Clearly hasn't been a policy taken into mind for JBanton and several former patrollers who were demoted for lack of activity, therefore this proves we need to stop making exceptions and nail down a firm policy to correctly handle inactive staff - patrollers. I propose the same rule as Administrator demotion applies to Patrollers - 3 month's inactivity results in demotion. As for Admins, I'd say demotion to powerusers, not Patrollers - inactive staff don't deserve to keep some form of staff position, even if it's lower in hierarchy.

That's me done. Cast your votes and comments on the change. Monk Talk 05:47, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

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CommentsEdit

  • Just to be clear on the maintenance of this, users who go against the 2 new policies will be alerted that they are nearing the boundaries of the issue, then eventually be demoted if they continue to do so for a month more. Monk Talk 05:57, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • I agree and I propose something more: a special warning template only applied to Staff Members when they break these policies. This could be useful to notify the inactive staffer and also for other users (not only Staff) to keep track of the situation should he decides to reapply or request a promotion. TGS96 talk stalk 14:18, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • Nope, not necessary at all. It's not a policy you can "break", it's a strict guideline rather than a policy. No need for an optimised warning template. A simple reminder will do just fine. Monk Talk 14:28, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Map OverhaulEdit

Not many of you may have used the Maps feature here, but after noticing how bland and out-of date the maps are (mostly), I've decided to have a massive revamp of them. I recently started by deleting some of the current maps so I could get fresh new copies. It will take a while, but I'm thinking of getting all games' maps into the maps feature. There's currently a map glitch which prevents me from uploading NEW maps (only using the supplied templates is possible ATM), which Wikia staff are aware of and have told me they'll fix it ASAP. The project will be put off a little because of this, but I don't even think this needs a vote - it's self explanatory - I'm doing it anyway xD Monk Talk 11:05, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

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BadgesEdit

Closed as unsuccessful by LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 11:55, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

Why don't this wiki have any badges. I think it should have badges. Badges will increase the users here. Fear The Thunder

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CommentsEdit

  • What? You mean leader-board achievements? So what, people can points-game? Absolutely NO way. No. Just no. Mr. Ferrari (talk) 19:35, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • I don't know what do you mean with "badges" on the wiki. - Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 20:57, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • I am willing to have badges on this wiki, but only for a very restricted scope of achievements: namely the number of edits and perhaps edits to specific page categories. We already have edit badges as Userboxes, so I do not see why we cannot have a very small number (perhaps no more than 10-20, or perhaps even as little as four (one for each edit milestone - 500, 1,000, 5,000 and 10,000)) for a bit of material for bragging rights, but no more. This should prevent any "points-gaming", but also allow for a little something for editors on this wiki to work for. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 09:19, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • We've been asked this millions of times before, and I can't emphasise enough how much bullshit it causes.
  1. Pointgaming, as Ferrari already pointed out, is too much to cope with, especially on a wiki that is (usually) very hectic and active. A wiki with hundreds of users, and hundreds of active users, means this is bound to be misused.
  2. Competition - There's literally no point, some of these badges are just out of pure LUCK, so really it's hardly even fair.
  3. Users will have to "start again" - What about me? ZS? GTAInc? Wild? Tom? Why introduce this now, after we've all gained thousands of edits? It's ridiculous. Userbox "badges" are enough. Monk Talk 09:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • As far as I know, Konan, the limitation of badges is pretty hard, as you'd have to individually delete badges (they automatically add to the wiki when activated - loads of them). Also, there are no milestone badges AFAIK - only "you made the 1000th/2000th/3000th edit" kind of thing (out of pure luck). Monk Talk 09:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
    • I see. Admittedly, I know very little of how the badges system works "under the hood", but I still feel that a very limited amount of badges will do this wiki some good. I do not know exactly how difficult it is to actually remove unwanted badges, but surely there should be a way to delete them en masse? If not, and if it is too difficult to implement the feature as desired, perhaps you are right, and the badges should not be enabled. Also, do not badges automatically get awarded to users who already meet the prerequisites for earning them once the feature is turned on? I would assume that they would. Finally, with regards to your point about this wiki being very active, I wish to note that one of the other wikis that I occasionally edit on (Halo Nation) does have badges, and like this wiki, is also very active, yet still ordered. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 10:35, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • Over the last few years, this has come up again and again. The reason that everyone agreed on a few years ago was that we would never have badges because it would seriously mess up the wiki; users would be coming to pointsgame and won't be editing just to increase the quality. For example, Wildbrick added over 1,000 (maybe 2,000) images to the wiki last month, not for edits but for quality, whereas if we had badges he may have done that just to fly up the leaderboard and the images may have been of terrible quality. The only reason Myths Wiki has them is because it is a relatively small wiki compared to the GTA Wiki so bad edits are easier to track compared to on here. Also, as the Myths Wiki has seen countless times, pointsgaming and just general leaderboard position can lead to a lot of fights and people leaving. For a wiki the size of this one, badges are just a bad idea. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 11:53, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

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