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Talk page rules apply here.
 
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This noticeboard is for discussion and voting on changes to the wiki, reporting vandalism and wiki rule breaking, and reporting bad or unfair behaviour from GTA Wiki staff.
 
This noticeboard is for discussion and voting on changes to the wiki, reporting vandalism and wiki rule breaking, and reporting bad or unfair behaviour from GTA Wiki staff.
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Votes for the expiration of a Patroller's probation will also be held here.
   
 
For requests for promotion, please go to '''[[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]'''.
 
For requests for promotion, please go to '''[[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]'''.
 
We currently have a lot of staff so there will be no more Patroller requests for a while. Current Patrollers may request to be promoted to Admin status by voting on the Requests for Promotion Page.
 
   
 
'''Voting Rules'''<br />
 
'''Voting Rules'''<br />
 
Since voting about a change can cause arguments, here are the rules.
 
Since voting about a change can cause arguments, here are the rules.
 
*Anyone can start a topic for a community vote.
 
*Anyone can start a topic for a community vote.
*Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another users vote.
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*Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another user's vote.
 
*Voting usually lasts 3 to 5 days.
 
*Voting usually lasts 3 to 5 days.
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==Merge Compromise==
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Okay, this discussion again. I noticed a widespread split of several pages. Now, I can go off on one and say "It wasn't authorized" "This is a bad idea" blah, blah, blah. No, I do not want to deal with more fall out on this case. So, some vehicles, from what I've seen, have been unncessarily split. So I propose;
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*Keep Kuruma (Armored) as part of the variants on the Kuruma page.
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*Have a page for Baller LE, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Baller LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter V12, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Cognoscenti 55, with armored in the variants section.
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*Keep Cognoscenti (Armored) as part of the variants on the Cognoscenti page.
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These cars (upgraded/changed Schafter, Baller & Cog) do have different design and some have different performances, but having armor doesn't warrant its own page.
   
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The Buffalo S & Oracle XS have major differences so I can put my personal feelings to one side on this matter. Insurgent/9F/Rancher/Sentinel/Granger etc. can stay separate, because I know they're variants, but they have different performance, design and whatever else, so if it keeps the calm here, good, and if the Schafter is renamed, or the Baller or Cavalacade, then we'll split like we've done in the past. I just don't think there should be separate pages, jut because it has armor on it. The exception being Duke O'Death, because it has a different name, it's not just Dukes (Armored). Also, to close the matter on the Roosevelt Valor, if it comes out and has different performance, design and naming, that it should have its own page.
Hi guys. Basically, I think that we should take down the Featured Images section of the main page. I think this because I believe that it looks messy, boring and frankly, I never notice it. So yeah, I think it should be taken down. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 16:55, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
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I also reccomend that we can add the note below to the MoS;
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:09, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Could Be''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
*Yeah, maybe change it to the latest screenshots of GTA V? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Agree [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:25, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Latest screenshots sounds good. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I agree with the idea, and Instu's idea is good too, but I think the purpose of that particular section is showing "good quality" images, I think that's the only reason for it being placed there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Introducing the new Welcome Automessage!==
 
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 9 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
Ladies and Gents. [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]] and I have here, the wiki's replacement to that redundant and old automated message. '''The [[Template:Welcome]]'''. This will get the wiki's contributors more interested in editing and will flourish a lot of trusted editors, let alone Staff. Please imput your votes about adding this message in lieu of the old automated message and comments about this template below. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 07:29, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Of course!''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Nice one guys''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes from me - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 13:58, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Triple Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:04, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
   
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'''Vehicles variants that have significant changes in performance, design and naming, such as second generation vehicles, should be made as two separate pages.'''
   
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I'm hoping that this issue can finally be resolved after all the issues in the last year or so surrounding it. If there's any other vehicles that have minor differences you feel need to be merged besides those listed above, or if you have any questions, comments or concerns, please leave it below. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*Sure, go ahead. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*So, you want to keep the armored variants into their respective pages? Well, I was thinking on that. Also, I noticed both the Rebel and the Sanchez are listed to split, which I found it quite odd, as both has slight changes (apart of the almost-impossible Buzzard, which was dropped). As for the MoS note, well, most second gen cars has the same names as the original cars (or 1st gen in that case), so that would be confusing for the Schafter and the Baller. For me, I would agree in your point, but I don't have control of the project. --<span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 03:41, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*I've corrected the links to Staff pages so there aren't any dead links, all it needs now is a link to the policy and I think it'll be very good. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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**The beater version of the Rebel is called Rusty Rebel on the website...different name = different page. Exact same case with the Sanchez. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*The template looks very great and that would be an amazing Welcome Automessage, the new user will read it and maybe this template will reduce the vandalism or wrong-editing or false-content adding to the Wiki. Unbelievable amazing. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:37, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*Can't see why the Rebel and Sanchez are split besides beater and livery changes, respectively. As for the MoS, if it's a vehicle like the Buffalo (which has S) or Oracle (XS), then it falls under the rule. Schafters, Cavalcades and Ballers, not yet, not unless R* change the name. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 03:49, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*I like it! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 11:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*honestly Wilds idea of splitting EVERYTHING with differing names still attracts me more than the idea of merging armored ones. Why? Well, because now you're making exceptions. And exceptions = no consistency. If we just stick to the rule of 'different nsme = different page', there'll be absolutely no exceptions and it will be consistent. The way its going is fine to me. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*It took you a while to finish it, Tony, but it's great!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
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**Yes but the most of these vehicles are split because they have different design and or performance. The armored vehicles have no differences in design or performance. They only have an altered name, so we have 8 pages of armored vehicles with identical design and performance to their stock vehicles. The design and performance difference is why pages were split in the first place. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 08:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*Looks good! Maybe add a splash of colour to it? :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 12:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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**Actually the performances between the armored versions differs, especially the new Cogs, Schafters, Ballers. Guy A <small>(Junior)</small> - [[User: That Ferrari Guy|That Ferrari Guy]] ([[User talk: That Ferrari Guy|talk]]) 15:06, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*Since this template amassed some positive reviews, we should proceed on adding it to'' mediawiki.css,'' but let's wait for a couple days until we get the whole staff a chance to look. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 00:06, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:That Ferrari Guy|That Ferrari Guy]] (Patroller)==
*I like that idea of yours Tony! [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 00:43, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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'''''Closed as successful by '''''[[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
==Staff status==
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That Ferrari "Guy"'s probation is pretty much up so it's time for everyone to vote as to whether they think he has passed. Remember, only admins and bureaucrats can vote, patrollers and normal users may leave comments.
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - 4 votes of 'No' and 2 votes of 'Yes' -- [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 23:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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====Votes====
The status of the staff member should be written under his name, to let any user know who to contact form staff members. A lot of wikis have done this thing, one of them is the [[w:c:battlefield|Battlefield Wiki]], see there [[w:c:battlefield:Battlefield Wiki:Administrators|staff]].
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Affirmative''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 20:24, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 04:46, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes-''' [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
for example:
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====Comments====
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center" style="font-size:90%"
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*I think you've done really well in your second probation period. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
|[[File:McJeff-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:McJeff|125px]]
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*I believe that you have done an excellent job as a Patroller. I am quite confident that you will pass your probation. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 19:26, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
|[[File:Messi1983-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:Messi1983]]
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*He did extremely well. Opened a little too early but tomorrow he won't be online till later (as far as I hear). Well done bud. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
|[[File:TheTom-StaffAvatar.png|125px|link=User:The Tom]]
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*I haven't been around long enough to notice Guy's work, but he worked well last time around, and the votes above tell me he's done just as well. Closed as successful. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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!{{Flagicon|United States of America|Flag of the United States}} [[User:McJeff|McJeff]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:The Tom|The Tom]]<br />Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
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|[[File:LS11sVaultBoy-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:LS11sVaultBoy|125px]]
 
|[[File:MikeyKlebbitz-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Mikey Klebbitz|125px]]
 
|[[File:WinterMoon-StaffAvatar.png|link=User:Winter Moon|125px]]
 
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!{{Flagicon|United Kingdom|Flag of the United Kingdom}} [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Portugal|Flag of Portugal}} [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=green>active</font>
 
!{{Flagicon|Unknown|Unknown}} [[User:Winter Moon|Winter Moon]]<br />
 
Status: <font color=orange>semi-active</font>
 
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--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 01:03, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:TAlim 1994|TAlim 1994]] (Patroller)==
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Outcome: '''PASS'''
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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(Admins and Bureaucrats only)
*'''No''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No''' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 12:44, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*'''No''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 16:34, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*I don't see the point, considering that most of us are active. Adding this would promote patrollers to write demotions against semi-active admins/bureaucrats.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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(Everyone)
*Well, I agree with Dodo. Besides it, I don't think Messi is semi-active. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 16:41, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*I have decided to take the liberty of setting up my own probation expiry vote to save other Staff the trouble. Please vote when you are able to. Thank you. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 10:51, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*As per Dodo. Plus, Tommy, check Dan's page. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 17:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*You've done very well during your probation and it would be good for you to continue. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*I think it is actually quite a good idea. It helps users learn about the staff more and helps them know what member of staff is active for them to talk to, incase they are in need of help. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 23:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*You made a good progress and you're efficient as a patroller. I say "yes". --<span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*I don't see the point in doing this, either. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:11, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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*You did great. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*It is what it is. If a user needs help and messages a semi-active staff member, then the whole purpose of the staff is pointless. The user doesn't get help, and if a semi active alert was in place, that user would get a quick response from an active staff member. Why cripple the system? Lets improve it! [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Adding flags to the different language GTA Wikis==
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==Vehicle Variants System 2.0==
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font> - 3 votes of 'Yes', one vote of 'Undecided' and 0 votes of 'No' --[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 17:00, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Okay guys, you're probably going to shoot me for this, but I have a new idea. I suggested the idea (albeit hesitantly considering the outcome and affect it'd have on the Staff here) in Chat one evening with Leo, who agreed it was a fantastic idea. He agreed in a good manner and suggested I sent it to the Community Noticeboard to propose it. So, Leo, if you disagree now, I'm gonna kill you :P
I got this idea. We should add the flag icon near the name of the different language GTA Wikis.
 
   
for example:
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The idea is, well, pretty simple really. Instead of shoving all the Variants into the same article of the main vehicle, create a sub-page "[Vehicle Name]/Variants" and list them all in there. I really think this makes it A LOT tidier. I have started my first example, [[User:Monkeypolice188/Experiments/2016 Variants Project|here]]. I did the Granger. On the Granger article, at the variants section, you'll notice a "Main" template, which will link you to the Variants sub-page which lists all the emergency counterparts. For navigational purposes, the 4 variants are listed at the top, the links send you to the parts of the page (try it out, "Press me!" :P).
   
<span style="text-align:center;">The GTA Wiki is also available in:</span>[[file:Flag of Spain.svg|20px|link=http://es.gta.wikia.com/wiki/]][http://es.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Español], [[file:Flag of Italy.svg|20px|link=http://it.gta.wikia.com/wiki/]][http://it.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Italiana], [[file:Flag of Portugal.svg|20px|link=http://pt.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ ]][http://pt.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Português], [[file:Flag of Iraq.svg|20px|link=http://ar.gta.wikia.com]][http://ar.gta.wikia.com عربية].
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Now, I separated the pages with a "<nowiki>----</nowiki>" bar to make it clearer where each vehicle ends. I really like this system, and I'm confident it would work for many vehicles (only ones I'm concerned about are where we draw the line as what counts as a variant (example, Phantom and Rubble?), as well as when a vehicle crosses the Universe boundary but doesn't count as a variant in one of the Universes.
   
--[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] (<span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">[[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]]</span><span class="ts-slide">[[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]</span></span>) 00:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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So, please, this is '''not''' a vote, as for now, I'm just letting you comment to see what you think. Again, this is only an alpha (not even beta) project, I want to see what you think.
   
===Votes===
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Oh, one more thing, '''this is not a place to start an argument'''. If we start arguing in an uncivil manner, I'll simply close it and delete the project. Just tell me what you think, and if I get good reception, '''maybe''' I'll turn it into a vote.
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:24, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Undecided''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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Tar lads. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 12:02, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
 
*Seriously, why are all your projects related to the templates I created?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Believe me it's nothing related to you, I saw the [http://pl.gta.wikia.com/wiki/ Polish GTA Wiki] has done this thing. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 09:48, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Yes, but you're using my [[Template:Flagicon|template]]. Anyways...
 
****The template is not 100% needed we can replace it with 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****I replaced the template with a 20px flag. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:36, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*See, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I've came to the conclusion that there is no reason not to have these flags there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Yes, but not the normal flags. Real flags have different ratios, and look odd. If the request is approved I'll search for some other flag pictures.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
**Search for whatever you search for that's why you're the expert! Btw how can you know the codes of the colors? is it Wikia Developers Wiki? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 19:33, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It seems like an unnecessary feature to me, I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, so I'll assume it's just cosmetic. I don't feel strongly enough either way to actually vote so I'll leave this with everyone else. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:31, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
*According Tom's opinion, I don't think it's really necessary. But maybe it should help users to search the Wiki quickly. I'll think a little more. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:43, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Affiliations to R* games' Wikis==
 
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - five votes of 'No', and only four votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:43, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
This is a big project, like Rockstar Games has been developing games for more than ten years, Rockstar made a lot of fans around the world. Most of the users here on the GTA Wikia integrate with other Wikis too, most of them are from R* games. I'm giving the idea, that we should make affiliations to Wikis that are from Rockstar content. They are so good like us and most of our users, even Staff members, contribute to those Wikis, I'm proposing, that we should show our loyalty to these Wikis and that will maybe make us more noted by the other Wikis. The proposes are the Max Payne Wiki, Red Dead Wiki, Rockstar Games Wiki, L.A Noire Wiki, Bully Wiki, Manhunt Wiki and Midnight Club Wiki.
 
 
:Note : If you want to strike one of the Wikis that you disagree with affiliation or you find not good or elevated, comment in the comments section and maybe we can create an extra discussion page for it. So let's show that we are a graceful Wiki and we want to show generosity to other R* Games too.
 
 
--'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 18:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No '''- [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 20:05, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 12:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No (for most of them [read my comment])''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' (for most of them) -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*This is a great idea. We should affiliate with each one of them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
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*I think it is a good idea. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:25, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
**I think I'm changing my mind we should affiliate with R* games wiki only because we have a lot of shared articles with R* wiki. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:09, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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*From what I see on the Granger examples, that would mean that pages like "Park Ranger", "FIB Granger", "Lifeguard SUV", etc. would no longer exist and be instead merged into "Granger/Variants" page. Correct? If so, no, never. They are separated for a reason, and it's pretty obvious a specific vehicle is a variant anyway - a mention such as "Main Article: [vehicle]" and a very short paragraph would be enough. It's good as it is now, and things like that are usually '''''very volatile''''' as evidenced from past votes/ideas. IMHO it would be a better idea to split everything, instead of having a hacky system of vehicle subsections like Kuruma (Armored), Insurgent Pick-Up, Rusty Rebel etc. have now - that would save the time and confusion of making and reading these pages - but the last time we agreed that only select vehicles would end up like the examples I mentioned so that would bring an end to these sort of ideas, and arguments resulting from them, which is why it'd be better to leave it as it is. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 12:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
*I agree with you on affiliating with only R* produced games. I love the idea of linking up all the R* games wikis as that will create a great network for fans to easily navigate from on to another. Great proposal of killing seven birds with on stone. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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**Yeah I agree. I was pretty hesitant myself when writing this and hence why i've only decided to right this more than a month after he suggested I put it forward. Again, it's just an idea and not something I'm insisting should be done. I only insist when I'm fully confident :P <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:23, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
*This would attract new users to the GTA Wiki and the same to others. It's a win-win situation.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
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*Your proposal is intriguing, but I must admit that it sounds like a monumental change, and not one which should be implemented on a whim. As "[[User:WildBrick142|Wildbrick142]]" has said, it will not be a good idea to merge all the pages of different variants of vehicles that have substantially different stock performance specifications. Instead I would suggest creating a "Variants" heading on the page of the base vehicle, creating a sub-heading for each variant of the vehicle, adding a "Main" template that links to the vehicle page for that variant, and inserting a concise description on how the variant differs from the base vehicle. Also, a "Disambiglink" template should be placed at the start of the page of each variant, stating something along the lines of "For the vehicle that the [Variant Name] is based on, see [Base Vehicle Name]". [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 07:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*All my prior comments about 'affiliated wikis' stand. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Wait, wait. All the R* Wiki'''s'''? I thought it's the actual Rockstar Wiki (the text was too long to read). It's a '''No''' from me.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> ''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''
 
*The Rockstar Games Wiki, is OK, since it's run by Ilan and Bunny, but the rest, I'm not sure... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**The Max Payne Wiki and the Red Dead Wiki are also okay. I serve as an admin on both.
 
***Hmm...sometimes I go to Red Dead and L. A. Noire, but not usually to Max Payne...are you sure? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*It looks like most of the people accept only an affiliation the with [http://rockstargames.wikia.com/wiki/Rockstar_Games_Wiki Rockstar Games Wiki]. I'll wait a little more and see what we can do. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 14:57, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Yes, only Rockstar Games Wiki.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*Yes for Rockstar Games, Max Payne, Red Dead and L.A.Noire. No for the others. Manhunt Wiki is a fucking disaster and has no active admins and/or useful editors. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
**What about the Agent Wiki, Ilan? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
*This Noticeboard is getting a little bit dusty, isn't? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 22:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==New Templates (Inactive staff members)==
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==Toning Down Trivia==
:<font color="red">'''FAILED'''</font> - six votes of 'No' and only two votes of 'Yes'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 05:41, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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Alright, well it's been discussed [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_3 in the past], so to make it short: let's take it easy on the trivia and reserve it for stuff we have not seen. Pages, such as the [[Heavy Revolver]] for example (which I have fixed since), had information that was best well fit in the derscription section. Other pages contain trivia that was already mentioned, too obvious, speculative (most of the time), or in some cases, it was not even worth mentioning. I just want to get the community a heads-up to tone down the trivia and to make sure that the information you found regarding to a specific page is best suited in the description, appearance, etc.
   
I have created template for inactive [[GTA Wiki:Staff|staff]] members, and I hope you count them as official templates
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--'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 18:21, January 18, 2016 (UTC) 
 
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{{Patroller (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Administrator (inactive)}}
 
 
{{Bureaucrat (inactive)}}
 
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-[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:59, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes (with a sprinkle of No)''' -- [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes (with a notice)''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Not Really...''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 19:27, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''No''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
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*I agree with adding it, but most of us just state reasons why we are inactive so the users' acquaintances won't worry on what he/she/it is inactive for. --[[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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*Agreed. Some of the GTA IV mission pages are the worst offenders for "trivia" I've seen. I'm all for Trivia sections but I personally think a section with one or two relevant facts is better than 20 irrelevant facts. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 19:01, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
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*Sounds good. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:37, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
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*I completely agree that the trivia should be reserved for important and relevant facts regarding the article it refers to, but I should also point out that what one user regards as "important" might not be regarded as such by another, which may lead to potentially ugly disputes. Perhaps general guidelines for what should and should not be added to the trivia of each category of article (missions, characters, businesses, etc.) should be created to preempt such disputes. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 14:42, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
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**[[GTA Wiki:Trivia|Here]]'s the official policy on Trivia. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 15:30, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
   
*Nice idea Rhem. I completely agree with it. I just want to notice it that this template should be locked and only staff members can use it if they become inactive. Actually I think too that the normal templates for B'cat, admin and patroller should be locked too. BTW it is possible to lock a template? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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==Resignation==
**Only admins can lock templates -- [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:01, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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I think it's time for me to move on and resign as administrator, as I'm busy IRL to edit here and I've also been losing interest in the GTA series lately. Besides, it's fair for the most active patrollers to leave an open admin spot so one of them can be promoted. I'm not leaving the wiki, I will still edit here, but just not as often. Good luck everybody, and see you around :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 10:59, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
***Although the votes have all been positive so far, I think there should be at least 5 votes before closing this. If the templates are approved, I'll lock them. I, myself, think that adding a note to the talk page would get the job done, but I think it'd be best if we waited for (at least) three more votes. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I created this one a while ago: [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And no offense intended, but don't call yourself a template expert when everything you did was to change the text.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
   
**I have an idea but the original staff templates have to be unlocked --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:49, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:Sheesh. Sorry to hear that my friend. You've been great here man. I've always looked up to you as a great admin. Have a great New Year and enjoy your life :) take care buddy. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:15, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
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:Sorry to see you go Doc but I can fully understand why. Look after yourself and hopefully you'll be back soon. Happy New Year. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 14:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
*@Cloud as much I love 'fuck no' votes, I'm changing it to 'No'. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:38, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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::Thanks for you comments, and happy New Year to you as well :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 16:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC) 
*Can any active admin unlock staff templates, I won't vandal them. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 23:57, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:*Why do you want them unprotected? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:00, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:**Just unlock them it's a new idea non of the wikis have tried this, for examble 
 
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:::Sorry to see you go Doc. You've been great here and we really are thankful for the thousands of spectacular images you've added here. I also feel your case, as I myself am not as active as before and am losing interest in GTA as well, mostly because I'm focusing on other things in life and my future game and don't have much time for video games in general now. As I always said they're better things in life than video games. The only reason I'm not resigning is because I'm afraid to leave the wiki and all sorts of shit start up here such as vandals and what not. Anyways, I hope you find what you're looking for in life and have a happy new year.[[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:42, December 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
   
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::::I'm sorry to hear this Doc, but I understand. Happy New Year for you and your family ! [[User:General9913|General9913]] ([[User talk:General9913|talk]]) 21:07, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
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{{RI}} It's a shame to see you go, Doc. I understand your point about being busy, but hey, you made it very well here, and that matters. Anyway, have a great one over there :D --<span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 03:32, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
   
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It's a shame the year ends with another resignation. Can't say I'm not disappointed, Doc, you've done great things here, but I can understand your reasoning. Good luck. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 06:05, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
   
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It is sad to see you go. You have been a great admin. It was nice having you around here. [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 21:28, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth hunter]] (Patroller)==
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'''''Closed as successful by '''''[[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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===Votes===
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
*Nope.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 15:56, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 17:24, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
**Why nope? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 15:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes '''- [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
***I already told you, check [[Template:Semi-Active]]. And it looks much better.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]] </span>''</sup>
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 19:46, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
****Your template gives the reason why the staff member is inactive, I can do that in the same template as the staff member, but the templates are still locked :( --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
****I prefer [[Template:Semi-Active|Dodo's template]]. It's cleaner and you can give your own reason why you're not on the wiki.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
****There really is no point with this inactive template proposal, as it will encourage inactivity, which is currently a problem on the wiki. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons==
 
I created this [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons|page]], and I hope you count it as an official manual of style. I know it's still not done yet, but I'm still working on it.
 
:[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 16:03, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
===Comments===
 
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*Rhem, there's a problem: [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weaponry|this page]] already existed, Tony created it. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
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**You decide which one to take, maybe we should have a community voting to decide which manual to take - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 20:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
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*At first his edits were okay, then they dropped a bit, but he's managed to pick it up lately, and he ''did'' tell me his internet was causing issues in logging in, etc, so we can't exactly blame some of his inactivity, He'll fair well as a Patroller and makes good contributions, as well as reinforces the policies and always informs me about vandals to block. He's very useful in chat too, blocked many sockpuppets lately. He's a great Patroller, and I'm sure if the internet issues are fixed, he'll become active even more. Good luck Myth :) <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
***I'm not sure which to choose...they are very like, one another. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 20:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
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*Though I've been absent and a lot less active recently sadly, I know Myth has improved a lot since his first time. He deserves the position without a doubt. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
****Rhem, you are obligated to import your added content that my page is lacking to my created MoS/W. [[User:Tony 1998|The Tyrannical T]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 00:14, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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*Really did improve since the last probabtion expiry. You have my '''''yes''''' in spirit. :) --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 19:45, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*Activity was the only issue before, and that has been fixed. With my vote as the sixth yes, I am closing it as successful. Congratulations, Myth hunter. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Featured articles system==
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==Mission Numbers in Infoboxes==
:<font color="green">'''Passed'''</font>; 10 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 12:07, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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:'''''Closed as <span style="color:red">Unsuccessful</span> by [[User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188]]'''''.
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So earlier I was thinking we could have Mission Numbers in the infoboxes of missions, because the ''"this is the first mission given to [a] by [b]''" can be slightly misleading or misinterpreted at first. This wouldn't be that hard and I can really only see it following how either the GTASeriesVideos name them, '''OR''' the order they ard listed on the main "''Missiins in [gams]''" article. Essentially, it makes navigation easier, makes identifying any referencs to mission numbers '''outside''' GTA Wiki easier to understand, and gives missions a simpler ordering system.
:[http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_3#Featured_Article_section ''Previous discussion on the subject'']
 
 
So yes, I'm bringing this subject again, as it seems we have forgotten about. My one question for now is, do you want such feature on our wiki or not?
 
 
Yes, I know we need 'Manuals of Style' for several articles categories such as characters, missions, buisnesses, gangs/groups and a few more. No need for vehicles, [[User:JBanton|J]] created [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Vehicles|one]].
 
 
If you have any suggestions, post them here.
 
 
:-- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 16:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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What do you think? <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 09:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:35, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''<s>Neutral</s> No''' - [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:40, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC) 
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 01:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 07:12, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 10:02, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes '''- [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 04:34, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*I think we could use those "Manuals of Style", and since GTA V is just around the corner, we could use with some guides that could help more un-experienced users (of course, the more experienced ones would follow the guides themselves, too). [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 16:38, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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*If you're adding mission numbers, then you're establishing a mission sequence, is it that what you mean? I didn't get your point.Because if it is, only thing I can say is that it's a sandbox game, players can choose whatever sequence they want. I see the "unlocked by" and "unlocks" thing working pretty well on infoboxes, so there's no need for mission numbers yet. Staying neutral untill further explanations. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*I think it would help readers if the articles for a certain discipline (i.e character, business) had a similar structure, so they can find information easily and conveniently, this is one benefit of having manuals of style. In order to help editors, having one over arching MoS that then contains links to more specific ones, [http://watch-dogs.wikia.com/wiki/Watch_Dogs_Wiki:Manual_of_Style sort of like this] (but more complete obviously) could help. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 16:48, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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**Well, that is what I mean, but there is evidently some kind of sequence, somehow, because how are experienced Youtubers numbering them? And there's clearly an order, Rockstar ordering missions in the "Replay Mission" feature. It'd be really useful, but now you mention the "Unlocked by" and "Unlocks", I think I might close this, as that's good enough tbh. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 12:17, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*Yes of course, in each discipline/type this ''system'' should be followed, '''principally''' by missions. I see often the Trivia after the Video Walkthrough and etc... A order like =1. Mission, 2. Mission Objectives, 3. Reward, 4. Trivia, 5. Video W., 6. See also (References and link to detailed page of mission walkthrough) for example. And of course this Manual should be included in the Welcome Template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I've not seen so many videos walkthroughs in YT other than the ones that I used to get some mission screenshots, but I guess they just pick one of the available missions and start a video for it. That's not a sequence, or at least it should not be followed. I agree about using the sequence from the "Replay Mission" in [[Missions in GTA V]] though. Do not close the discussion yet, let's just wait for other users to vote. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:47, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
:*Yeah, [[User:Tony 1998|T]] had already proposed that, I think he even created the template. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:15, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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*I staying neutral on this one. On one hand I agree that a number is better than "This is the first mission (a) gave to (b)". But the only problem is that Their is not any exact order in which the missions are played. If this request is successful, I would support to use the same order as on the "Mission in (game)" page. [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
::*Two weeks ago I offered to help him, but he said he would do it by himself soon... Whenever that is.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
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*Honestly, I don't see the point in this. Most missions have no specific order so what could be Mission #45 for someone would be #46 or #47, etc. , for someone else. We have navboxes and unlocked by/after already as well, and they do the job fine. What we could do is tweak the mission giver line to feature an "Expand" button that shows all missions available from the boss or rewrite all headings to make them less confusing while retaining the information. Following GTASeriesVideos in regards to mission numbering is exactly the same as following the average GTAO Youtuber: speculation. The only factual mission numbering is from R* themselves.<br /><br />btw, mission sequence in GTA V's replay menu is not reliable. Many missions can be placed differently, depending on when you do them - Chop for example can be done before Complications or after Complications, and it will be placed on the list whenever you do them. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*Since the only thing I agreed was the Replay Mission sequence, and it's not reliable, I'm changing to "No". In addition, I see no problem to mention "this is the [first, second, third, fourth and so on] mission to [protagonist] by [mission giver]", that's the only sequence we actually have. We can improve the "unlocked by"/"unlocks" by adding a feature used at some mission articles in GTA SA, such as [[Sweet's Girl]] (see the bottom of the page), particularly for mission series ([[The Truth (mission series)]] for example). Thoughts?. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 14:21, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
*Also, I think next to the featured articles we should add a link to the BAWSAQ page. I could create a template to make it look like interactive (profit increses, decreases, etc.) These would be random but will look good and users will also be able to read about businesses in GTA V through the BAWSAQ page. Opinions?<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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**Okay okay...I didn't realise that the missions were not in the same order for everyone, as I didn't realise that depending on what mission you do first, it effects the order numbers. Sorry... <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:50, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
**Perfect idea, Mr. Financial hahahaha --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 20:06, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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==Character Manual of Style change==
***Good! I'll start working on the template!<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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'''''Closed as ''successful'' by '''''[[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
****This is how it will look:
 
[[File:Template-BAWSAQ-Beta.png|200px|center|border]]
 
<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
   
*I think this wiki should have both featured articles and manual of style. [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] [[User talk:Kingrhem|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] <sup>or</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|<sup>'''Don't talk'''</sup>]] 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
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Good day. After a discussion with "[[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]]" regarding the [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Characters|Manual of Style for characters]], I have decided to propose a change to it to place the gallery before the trivia, as apparently all other Manuals of Style have the format as such, with the one for characters being the only one with the trivia before the gallery. Please vote and discuss this.
*Sorry for not being around and not keeping my promises, I'm not active everyday, due to no Internet connection at my residence. For the Template:Welcome, I wrote the coding of a boarder outline on a piece of paper, which I keep on forgetting when I go to my town's public library once every week. And for the core Manual of Style; I'm working on it using paper. Once I learn to not forget my papers, I write the template coding on my Sandbox page and test it, whilist the MoS will be on here, the Community Noticeboard. [[User:Tony 1998|Mr. T., That&#39;s Me!]] ([[User talk:Tony 1998|talk]]) 23:53, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I'll start working on a manual of style for the character pages, then I'll move to the missions. Someone wanna take the business pages? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 07:08, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I could take a look at the business articles that we have now and maybe draft up an MoS for businesses? If we are going to have an MoS for weapons I would prefer to do that. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 07:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
*You could take [[Fruit Computers in HD Universe]] asa an example for the Manual of Style, it's the most complete business page in my opinion.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> <sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>[[User talk:Dodo8|Talk]]</span>''</sup>
 
*I'll take the gangs then. Just a question, should I make it only for the gangs, or the gangs AND the groups in the same MoS.?- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 14:51, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
**May I help for the gangs too? That's the one where I have more experience, I think.
 
***Alright, I'll start working on it tomorrow, but the [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Gangs|page]] is already created. If you could start adding info, I'd be thankful, Thomas. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 13:18, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I gave my idea for the neighborhoods' MoS, check [[User talk:Ilan xd|Ilan's talk page]]. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|Edits]])''' 23:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
==Thanks to the entire community==
 
   
This for once is not a voting matter, but an act of pure gratitude to the entire community. After notifying everyone of my holiday and absence the response was truly heart-warming. After reading all the comments I almost had a tear in my eye at how strong our community stands and how friendly and understanding our community is. Honestly, I don't know of an internet community that I'm as proud to be a part of as the GTA Wiki community. Thank you everyone. ''(My internet allowance is running thin now, so I'll probably be limited to one edit a week now at most :/)'' [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 19:03, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 19:34, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''You're welcome! '''- [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:23, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 20:00, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Banana [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''You're welcome!''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 00:32, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 11:39, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
 
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*How's it going there, all good, JB (except for your internet connection, which I've already realized is clearly not) ? :) [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:25, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
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*Trivia usually is last (many wikis are laid out like this), and it looks a lot neater, so I agree with this change. Manual of Style for Missions would need a change, too, since that one also says that gallery is last. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*No need to thank us Jonny :) Everyone is always looking out for everyone here.. thinking about it now, the GTAWiki is a rare breed :p [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
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**This should also be applied to the MoS for neighborhoods and weapons. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:23, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*Instu, I could say giggity to the breeding section of that so much! Also, have fun JB! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 14:30, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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*Needless to say. That's what I've been doing since I started editing here. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*We (the GTA Community) know that we are simply very greatful to good editors. You are a very nice admin and your edits here will be missing. BTW me and Instu, we will keep an eye in the users who are messing up the vehicle pages ;) --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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*Sure. It was odd to have the Trivia before gallery, which is contrary to the actual one. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*I also have been placing the gallery before the trivia on a lot of different articles since I joined the wikia. I don't know why, but placing the gallery at the very botton of the page always looked "ugly" to me. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*Since I joined the Wiki I've always been placing Trivia sections at the foot of the page, just as a given. With regards to the MoS, it is mainly a guideline I don't think it needs to be followed to the letter as the most important points in a page is the correct information and correctly licenced and named images, but if this change will clear up any grey areas then I'm all for it. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*Everyone basically pointed out all my concerns, as an admin. No need to comment anything else :P <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*I am closing this proposal as successful, and I will make changes to the Manual of Style for missions and characters. I must admit that I am a slight bit cheesed off about this change (even though I proposed it), as I will now need to return to several character articles that I have created following the (now invalid) Manual of Style for characters, and change the format. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
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**I have now made the changes and updated the [[The Informant|two]] [[The Dossier Carrier|pages]] with galleries that I created using the old Manual of Style for characters. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 17:44, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
==<span style="font-size:18px;">Warning and block templates</span>==
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Hey guys, bad news for some of you and good news for others... Unfortunately I haven't been editing very often here and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable to visit Wikis every day; it doesn't mean that I don't like the GTA Wiki, but that I want to change some things in my life, like, instead of sitting in front of a computer to edit video game articles, I want to do something more, how can I say? Well, I think you guys will understand my reason...
   
Now, this template idea I've come up with would benefit patrollers mostly. Lately, when such a patroller gives a user a warning most say <nowiki>''I'm going to tell a admin on you''</nowiki> etc and to me it sounds childish and not very professional but with this template, it's not only professional but it's a smart way to carry out such things. I've done a rough copy of the template seen down below. Let me know what you think down below. Cheers [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:02, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Also, I started to lose my interest in the GTA series after the [[Heists Update]], since I myself am not a multiplayer person and I'm not really playing video games very often recently, so I'm feeling a little egoistical to occupy the admin spot, which should be taken by someone else.
   
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That's all I wanted to say; I will still come here, especially in chat to talk to my colleagues, but no longer as an admin.
   
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Warning|Template]] created with my help.</font>'''
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Special thanks to my wiki friends: [[User:Smashbro8|Jamal]], [[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]], [[User:SJWalker|Sam]], [[User:Leon Davis|Leo]], [[User:Mortsnarg|Alex]], [[User:Myth hunter|Hunter]], [[User:558050|558]] and [[User:Ultimate94ninja|U94N]]. [[File:EagleIcon.png|30px|Say hello to the eagle!]] <font size="5"><span style="color:aqua; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px #FF0000;"><font face=Rage>[[User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]]</font></span> [[File:PS3 Triangle.png|25px|link=User talk:AndreEagle17|Press triangle to interact]] [[File:PS3 Cross.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/AndreEagle17|Press X to stalk]] [[File:PS3 Circle.png|25px|link=User blog:AndreEagle17|Press circle to blog]] </font> 19:02, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
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*Andre's point is understandable. I too am starting to lose a little interest in GTA, as I am also trying to focus on my personal goals, education and career, which also involves the planning and putting things together of my own future sandbox game. However, I'm holding the spot here because I know I am still needed. Until I have the feelings things will run smoothly here without me having rights, I will remain a bureaucrat. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 19:19, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
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*Well, my friend, it has been really, really great, to have you as an admin here. You have been one of the best admins here, it will be a shame to see you go. All the best, Monk ;) PS It's still nice to have you around :) [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 19:22, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
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*Ahh, this makes me a little sad, but I can understand why you're leaving. You have your whole life ahead of you, and like you said, edting information about a video game isn't a good way to spend it, create art! You've told me some about that video game idea you had, so stick with it man! It's been great having you as an editor here Andre, you'll do well at what you put your mind to. [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 23:21, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
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*I'm not surprised anymore, because most of the staff are resigning, and I feel it will be me soon. I've lost interest, and I've done enough for the wiki. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:44, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
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*Its natural that so many people here are losing interest in GTA, after two years I'm actually surprised that we lasted that long. I will probably gonna need to resign at some point in the near future too, thanks to personal problems, hell, I'm already WAY less active then I used to be. Anyway, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish, dude. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 03:22, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
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*Ever since people are leaning towards next-gen, last-gen has been left to rot since Rockstar Games now focuses on future updates exclusive to next-gen. A shame to see you go, dude, but you've been really awesome in the end. I'm still into GTA, but not by much as I usually focus on edits on a regular basis. And no, I don't have any desire of being an admin for it, as it can only add more weight down my shoulders and will become swamped as a result of keeping the pages from future attacks by trouble-making users. All in all, best of luck on the outside world. [[File:JohnSignature.jpg|200px|link=User talk:JohnnyD-the-VGNerd]] 04:03, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
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*Good luck and see you around :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 11:48, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
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*Sad to see you go. Best of luck and all the best. Sad to see others on the staff mentioning that they might resign too. I think once you lose interest in something whether it will be editing on here or on Wikia in general, then it is hard to get that interest back. I have tried numerous times to get back into editing, but after a few days I get bored and real life takes over as it should and I feel I don't have the time for it anymore. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 00:44, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
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*It's sad to see you go. But what else can we do? It's okay considering that not everything is being on the wiki all the time. Sooner or later, our lifes takes form, and it means focusing on other important things and sucess, No?. Anyway. Take care, man and good luck. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 15:52, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
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==GTA Wiki To-Do List==
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'''''Closed as ''successful'' by '''''[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 10:55, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
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<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
   
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Hey! So I was looking around the highly-thought-through, sophisticated Saints Row Wiki (along with the for now-anonymous boring-as-hell user), and I saw a really useful article (many in fact), a 'To Do list'. Now, I'm aware we do/did have a to do list, but in honesty, it hasn't been updated in donkey's years, so, I was thinking we could revamp it. Of course, only staff can edit and add to it (unless, of course, you prefer not, and anyone) (as long as all types of staff can edit it permanently). I'd keep on top of it, associating it with projects put forward here would be great, and should be mandatory tbh.
'''<font color="blue">[[Template:Block|Second template]] created.</font>'''
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Benefits? Well, many in fact, sometimes, things need to be addressed, and quite a few times I've been stumbled on what to do next (despite the fact I have my own 'mini to do list'), so this would help both users and staff.
   
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Tell me what you think, yes, or no? [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 08:36, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
<nowiki>{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}</nowiki> produces:
 
{{Block|[[GTA Wiki:Vandalism|Vandalism]]|Patroller [[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]|20 May 2050}}
 
   
 
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===Votes===
*'''Yes''' --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:11, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]]([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]][[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:10, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 13:40, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:19, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes '''- [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''YES''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 11:06, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''YES''' - <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Cloudkit01|Cloudkit01]] ([[User talk:Cloudkit01|talk]]) 14:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''HELL YES - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)'''
*'''Yes''' - <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 16:11, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes with a cherry on top, glazed with chocolate and caramel --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>(</small>'''<small>[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]</small>''' - '''<small>[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]</small>''' - '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')'''</small>'''-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]]­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MythHunter 007|Myth]][[User_talk:MythHunter_007|Hunter]] [[Special:Contributions/MythHunter_007|007]] 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 20:01, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
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*I agree, but this template should have colors like red and yellow to give it a nice look. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*Would be a good idea. There are a number of mission pages which definitely need a lot of work, and delegating tasks would be beneficial in the long run. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
**It's not meant to be nice and cute.. it's serves a purpose to tell people what right and what's wrong. BTW Thanks Dodo for helping :) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:08, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*Agree with Sam. [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
***The red color resembles warning messages, haven't you saw any stop or warning messages on the street? --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 20:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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**Brilliant! So, I've created a prototype, [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monkeypolice188/Experiments/GTA_Wiki:To-Do_List here], which, what I think works well, has subcategories, and furthermore, subheadings, to categorize the work into the type of work (e.g. vehicles, locations, missions, etc), and then distinguish (if applicable) what game the project or work focuses on, which are separated by headings. Took literally 5 minutes. See what you think :P [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 11:10, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
****Yes, but red to me seems like block. It's a warning to the user so I think yellow would fit perfectly. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:19, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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***Looks good Monk. Hopefully we'll get more support. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 12:29, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*Change "denying the policy" to "violation of policy". [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 20:13, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*Good idea. One thing I would like to add is that the to do list page should bee divided into sections like Missions, Locations etc. This will make it easy for editors to find the page they can add more info about.[[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 14:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*Yes I agree, but this template should be given in certain occasions. If a user (vandal) remove all the content from pages repetitively, then he should be blocked without warning. If he adds false information, messes up infobox and templates or has intolerant edits or something in this type, he should receive this template. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 21:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*Excellent idea! I think we can get a lot done here, and do it efficently with other people picking up different tasks. I think it would make a much more "united" community here. [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*I've changed the color of the border to yellow, and I have also replaced "denying" with "violating". I was thinking we should have a "Blocked" template too, where the vandal will be informed that he was blocked.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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**I have plenty to add if this goes through sucessful :P If it does, I'll create the articles, and I will let users (along with myself) add anything they think should be listed as a project or as something we need to finish. [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 15:57, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*I love the idea of it. Just one thing you need to change though. Instead of it saying "If you will repeat", it should just say "If you repeat". Good work though! [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk to me this way]]) 09:21, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*Sounds good. It would be beneficial for those pages that aren't checked for a long time. Agreed with that idea. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
**Done. I also added the "block" template.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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*Have you seen the pages made before the community split? A.K.A everything relating to The Ballad of Gay Tony, and everything that came before it. Great idea. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*This template or both template needs section which rule did the user violated. For example this [[User:Sonicthered|user]] violated offcial policy for adding sexuall content, but he/she needs to know which rule did he/she breake.
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*A wonderful idea myself I would say! Also, a good way to get the community to work together more! --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
for example:
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*Great idea. If we also could incorporate this to-do-list to the message that appears to every single new user every time they do their first edit it would also help a lot. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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**I was going to point that out lol. That'd be great, make it a big thing here, make it viewable from everywhere on the wiki, we need to make this big, and when somet's big, it needs to be fancy, great quality, and full of endless projects and work for anyone to contribute; keeps the edit counts up, keeps the work going, and best of all, keeps the wiki expanding :P [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 21:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
<div style="border:2px solid #fddc00; padding:7px; margin-top:6px; -moz-border-radius:5px; -webkit-border-radius:5px;"><span style="color:silver">[[Image:Danger-icon.png|40x40px|right]] You have been '''warned''' for violating the '''[[GTA Wiki:Policy|policy]]'''. If you repeat your actions, you will be issued with a '''[[GTA Wiki:Blocking Policy|block]]'''.</span><br />'''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]]}}}''<br />'''Vilotaed rule:''' ''{{{2|Adding Pornographcal content}}}''<br />'''Issued by:''' {{{3|''[[User:Kingrhem]]''}}}</div>
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*This should not even be a question :p I think this is an excellent idea since it will allow the wiki to be a bit more organized. A huge problem - and one of people's major complaints about the wiki - is that there is a lot of speculative/unsourced content which lowers the wiki's overall credibility. Speculation is being removed when it's spotted but there are still pages left to correct. I believe that a to-do list, such as adding references to anything even remotely questionable, would be a good start, and, as it was already said, it would get the community to help out more. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]]­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Same as Sam and Hunter.-[[User:MythHunter 007|Myth]][[User_talk:MythHunter_007|Hunter]] [[Special:Contributions/MythHunter_007|007]] 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
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*Impatience* Could we get this closed as successful so I can start the project? Or am I granted permission to start it without it being closed as successful? (Seen as it's very likely to go through as yes anyway).  [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 19:47, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
**'''THAT IS THE POINT OF "GIVEN REASON"''''. And try to correct your grammar mistakes, there are plenty.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
*** Agreeing with Dodo, what ''is'' the point of adding that when it's already stated on the top line? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:26, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****You can drop that point but the full reason should be given. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 10:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Yeah, the reason is given in the '''Given reason''' section.. [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 10:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****It should be full, like this:
 
::::::: '''Given reason:''' ''Violating {{{1|[[GTA Wiki:Policy|Official policy]] by adding sexuall content}}}''. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] 11:10, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::*That was just an example, that's how it was supposed to look from the start. You started an useless topic, Kingrhem. And it's "sexual", not "sexuall". See the [[User:Rockfan555|warning]] I left to this user who violated the policy.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
 
:::::::**Look, if I wrote words with wrong grammar, that because of either being haungry, sleepy or have to hurry up, at the time I had all three reasons. --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] <span class="ts-container ts-container-inline"><span class="ts-slide">([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]])</span><span class="ts-slide">([[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]])</span></span> 18:27, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Nice, both templates. I just think there should be a different template exclusive for image policy, because it's a different case where most of new users still not understanding. If he violates the image policy, he should receive the image policy template, if repeated, the warning template. Actually I think that new users will feel a little afraid if they are threatened with a block because of image policy. BTW could you guys check my new gallery? :D --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 12:28, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Thomas, that's what the warning template is for.. ;) [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 19:16, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I agree with the idea. But the argument above was rather silly... - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:55, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*It was not silly because image policy is an error that every new user does at the begin. This happens more than two or three times and it would be a little bit rude if we block someone for such a thing without a right and clear information. We are encouraging users to continue editing, and not block them directly for things they don't know. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:11, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::*First of, Thomas, bullet your comments. Secondly, I think you are a bit confuse: "argument" in english also means "zanga, discussão" in portuguese, whereas "argumento" in portuguese means "point" (as in "That's a good point"). I'm not talking about what you said, OK. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::*Understood. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 19:33, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::*Boa. :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 19:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Merge CompromiseEdit

Okay, this discussion again. I noticed a widespread split of several pages. Now, I can go off on one and say "It wasn't authorized" "This is a bad idea" blah, blah, blah. No, I do not want to deal with more fall out on this case. So, some vehicles, from what I've seen, have been unncessarily split. So I propose;

  • Keep Kuruma (Armored) as part of the variants on the Kuruma page.
  • Have a page for Baller LE, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Baller LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter V12, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Cognoscenti 55, with armored in the variants section.
  • Keep Cognoscenti (Armored) as part of the variants on the Cognoscenti page.

These cars (upgraded/changed Schafter, Baller & Cog) do have different design and some have different performances, but having armor doesn't warrant its own page.

The Buffalo S & Oracle XS have major differences so I can put my personal feelings to one side on this matter. Insurgent/9F/Rancher/Sentinel/Granger etc. can stay separate, because I know they're variants, but they have different performance, design and whatever else, so if it keeps the calm here, good, and if the Schafter is renamed, or the Baller or Cavalacade, then we'll split like we've done in the past. I just don't think there should be separate pages, jut because it has armor on it. The exception being Duke O'Death, because it has a different name, it's not just Dukes (Armored). Also, to close the matter on the Roosevelt Valor, if it comes out and has different performance, design and naming, that it should have its own page.

I also reccomend that we can add the note below to the MoS;

Vehicles variants that have significant changes in performance, design and naming, such as second generation vehicles, should be made as two separate pages.

I'm hoping that this issue can finally be resolved after all the issues in the last year or so surrounding it. If there's any other vehicles that have minor differences you feel need to be merged besides those listed above, or if you have any questions, comments or concerns, please leave it below. Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • So, you want to keep the armored variants into their respective pages? Well, I was thinking on that. Also, I noticed both the Rebel and the Sanchez are listed to split, which I found it quite odd, as both has slight changes (apart of the almost-impossible Buzzard, which was dropped). As for the MoS note, well, most second gen cars has the same names as the original cars (or 1st gen in that case), so that would be confusing for the Schafter and the Baller. For me, I would agree in your point, but I don't have control of the project. --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 03:41, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • The beater version of the Rebel is called Rusty Rebel on the website...different name = different page. Exact same case with the Sanchez. Monk Talk 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • Can't see why the Rebel and Sanchez are split besides beater and livery changes, respectively. As for the MoS, if it's a vehicle like the Buffalo (which has S) or Oracle (XS), then it falls under the rule. Schafters, Cavalcades and Ballers, not yet, not unless R* change the name. Leo68 (talk) 03:49, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • honestly Wilds idea of splitting EVERYTHING with differing names still attracts me more than the idea of merging armored ones. Why? Well, because now you're making exceptions. And exceptions = no consistency. If we just stick to the rule of 'different nsme = different page', there'll be absolutely no exceptions and it will be consistent. The way its going is fine to me. Monk Talk 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes but the most of these vehicles are split because they have different design and or performance. The armored vehicles have no differences in design or performance. They only have an altered name, so we have 8 pages of armored vehicles with identical design and performance to their stock vehicles. The design and performance difference is why pages were split in the first place. Leo68 (talk) 08:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • Actually the performances between the armored versions differs, especially the new Cogs, Schafters, Ballers. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 15:06, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - That Ferrari Guy (Patroller)Edit

Closed as successful by Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

That Ferrari "Guy"'s probation is pretty much up so it's time for everyone to vote as to whether they think he has passed. Remember, only admins and bureaucrats can vote, patrollers and normal users may leave comments.

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • I think you've done really well in your second probation period. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • I believe that you have done an excellent job as a Patroller. I am quite confident that you will pass your probation. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 19:26, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • He did extremely well. Opened a little too early but tomorrow he won't be online till later (as far as I hear). Well done bud. Monk Talk 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • I haven't been around long enough to notice Guy's work, but he worked well last time around, and the votes above tell me he's done just as well. Closed as successful. Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - TAlim 1994 (Patroller)Edit

Outcome: PASS

VotesEdit

(Admins and Bureaucrats only)

  • Yes - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Sam Talk 12:44, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Monk Talk 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 16:34, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

(Everyone)

  • I have decided to take the liberty of setting up my own probation expiry vote to save other Staff the trouble. Please vote when you are able to. Thank you. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 10:51, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You've done very well during your probation and it would be good for you to continue. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You made a good progress and you're efficient as a patroller. I say "yes". --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You did great. Monk Talk 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Vehicle Variants System 2.0Edit

Okay guys, you're probably going to shoot me for this, but I have a new idea. I suggested the idea (albeit hesitantly considering the outcome and affect it'd have on the Staff here) in Chat one evening with Leo, who agreed it was a fantastic idea. He agreed in a good manner and suggested I sent it to the Community Noticeboard to propose it. So, Leo, if you disagree now, I'm gonna kill you :P

The idea is, well, pretty simple really. Instead of shoving all the Variants into the same article of the main vehicle, create a sub-page "[Vehicle Name]/Variants" and list them all in there. I really think this makes it A LOT tidier. I have started my first example, here. I did the Granger. On the Granger article, at the variants section, you'll notice a "Main" template, which will link you to the Variants sub-page which lists all the emergency counterparts. For navigational purposes, the 4 variants are listed at the top, the links send you to the parts of the page (try it out, "Press me!" :P).

Now, I separated the pages with a "----" bar to make it clearer where each vehicle ends. I really like this system, and I'm confident it would work for many vehicles (only ones I'm concerned about are where we draw the line as what counts as a variant (example, Phantom and Rubble?), as well as when a vehicle crosses the Universe boundary but doesn't count as a variant in one of the Universes.

So, please, this is not a vote, as for now, I'm just letting you comment to see what you think. Again, this is only an alpha (not even beta) project, I want to see what you think.

Oh, one more thing, this is not a place to start an argument. If we start arguing in an uncivil manner, I'll simply close it and delete the project. Just tell me what you think, and if I get good reception, maybe I'll turn it into a vote.

Tar lads. Monk Talk 12:02, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • I think it is a good idea. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:25, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
  • From what I see on the Granger examples, that would mean that pages like "Park Ranger", "FIB Granger", "Lifeguard SUV", etc. would no longer exist and be instead merged into "Granger/Variants" page. Correct? If so, no, never. They are separated for a reason, and it's pretty obvious a specific vehicle is a variant anyway - a mention such as "Main Article: [vehicle]" and a very short paragraph would be enough. It's good as it is now, and things like that are usually very volatile as evidenced from past votes/ideas. IMHO it would be a better idea to split everything, instead of having a hacky system of vehicle subsections like Kuruma (Armored), Insurgent Pick-Up, Rusty Rebel etc. have now - that would save the time and confusion of making and reading these pages - but the last time we agreed that only select vehicles would end up like the examples I mentioned so that would bring an end to these sort of ideas, and arguments resulting from them, which is why it'd be better to leave it as it is. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 12:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yeah I agree. I was pretty hesitant myself when writing this and hence why i've only decided to right this more than a month after he suggested I put it forward. Again, it's just an idea and not something I'm insisting should be done. I only insist when I'm fully confident :P Monk Talk 14:23, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
  • Your proposal is intriguing, but I must admit that it sounds like a monumental change, and not one which should be implemented on a whim. As "Wildbrick142" has said, it will not be a good idea to merge all the pages of different variants of vehicles that have substantially different stock performance specifications. Instead I would suggest creating a "Variants" heading on the page of the base vehicle, creating a sub-heading for each variant of the vehicle, adding a "Main" template that links to the vehicle page for that variant, and inserting a concise description on how the variant differs from the base vehicle. Also, a "Disambiglink" template should be placed at the start of the page of each variant, stating something along the lines of "For the vehicle that the [Variant Name] is based on, see [Base Vehicle Name]". TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 07:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Toning Down TriviaEdit

Alright, well it's been discussed in the past, so to make it short: let's take it easy on the trivia and reserve it for stuff we have not seen. Pages, such as the Heavy Revolver for example (which I have fixed since), had information that was best well fit in the derscription section. Other pages contain trivia that was already mentioned, too obvious, speculative (most of the time), or in some cases, it was not even worth mentioning. I just want to get the community a heads-up to tone down the trivia and to make sure that the information you found regarding to a specific page is best suited in the description, appearance, etc.

--Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 18:21, January 18, 2016 (UTC) 

CommentsEdit

  • Agreed. Some of the GTA IV mission pages are the worst offenders for "trivia" I've seen. I'm all for Trivia sections but I personally think a section with one or two relevant facts is better than 20 irrelevant facts. Sam Talk 19:01, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Sounds good. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 19:37, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • I completely agree that the trivia should be reserved for important and relevant facts regarding the article it refers to, but I should also point out that what one user regards as "important" might not be regarded as such by another, which may lead to potentially ugly disputes. Perhaps general guidelines for what should and should not be added to the trivia of each category of article (missions, characters, businesses, etc.) should be created to preempt such disputes. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 14:42, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • Here's the official policy on Trivia. Sam Talk 15:30, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

ResignationEdit

I think it's time for me to move on and resign as administrator, as I'm busy IRL to edit here and I've also been losing interest in the GTA series lately. Besides, it's fair for the most active patrollers to leave an open admin spot so one of them can be promoted. I'm not leaving the wiki, I will still edit here, but just not as often. Good luck everybody, and see you around :) DocVinewood (talk) 10:59, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sheesh. Sorry to hear that my friend. You've been great here man. I've always looked up to you as a great admin. Have a great New Year and enjoy your life :) take care buddy. Monk Talk 11:15, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to see you go Doc but I can fully understand why. Look after yourself and hopefully you'll be back soon. Happy New Year. Sam Talk 14:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for you comments, and happy New Year to you as well :) DocVinewood (talk) 16:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC) 
Sorry to see you go Doc. You've been great here and we really are thankful for the thousands of spectacular images you've added here. I also feel your case, as I myself am not as active as before and am losing interest in GTA as well, mostly because I'm focusing on other things in life and my future game and don't have much time for video games in general now. As I always said they're better things in life than video games. The only reason I'm not resigning is because I'm afraid to leave the wiki and all sorts of shit start up here such as vandals and what not. Anyways, I hope you find what you're looking for in life and have a happy new year.Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:42, December 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
I'm sorry to hear this Doc, but I understand. Happy New Year for you and your family ! General9913 (talk) 21:07, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

(Reset indent) It's a shame to see you go, Doc. I understand your point about being busy, but hey, you made it very well here, and that matters. Anyway, have a great one over there :D --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 03:32, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

It's a shame the year ends with another resignation. Can't say I'm not disappointed, Doc, you've done great things here, but I can understand your reasoning. Good luck. Leo68 (talk) 06:05, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

It is sad to see you go. You have been a great admin. It was nice having you around here. Myth(Please leave your threats here/Wanna Stalk?) 21:28, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - Myth hunter (Patroller)Edit

Closed as successful by Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

(Admins and Bureaucrats only)

  • Yes - Monk Talk 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Sam Talk 15:56, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:24, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Yes - DocVinewood (talk) 19:46, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

(Everyone)

  • At first his edits were okay, then they dropped a bit, but he's managed to pick it up lately, and he did tell me his internet was causing issues in logging in, etc, so we can't exactly blame some of his inactivity, He'll fair well as a Patroller and makes good contributions, as well as reinforces the policies and always informs me about vandals to block. He's very useful in chat too, blocked many sockpuppets lately. He's a great Patroller, and I'm sure if the internet issues are fixed, he'll become active even more. Good luck Myth :) Monk Talk 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Though I've been absent and a lot less active recently sadly, I know Myth has improved a lot since his first time. He deserves the position without a doubt. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Really did improve since the last probabtion expiry. You have my yes in spirit. :) --Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 19:45, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Activity was the only issue before, and that has been fixed. With my vote as the sixth yes, I am closing it as successful. Congratulations, Myth hunter. Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Mission Numbers in InfoboxesEdit

Closed as Unsuccessful by Monkeypolice188.

So earlier I was thinking we could have Mission Numbers in the infoboxes of missions, because the "this is the first mission given to [a] by [b]" can be slightly misleading or misinterpreted at first. This wouldn't be that hard and I can really only see it following how either the GTASeriesVideos name them, OR the order they ard listed on the main "Missiins in [gams]" article. Essentially, it makes navigation easier, makes identifying any referencs to mission numbers outside GTA Wiki easier to understand, and gives missions a simpler ordering system.

What do you think? Monk Talk 09:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

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CommentsEdit

  • If you're adding mission numbers, then you're establishing a mission sequence, is it that what you mean? I didn't get your point.Because if it is, only thing I can say is that it's a sandbox game, players can choose whatever sequence they want. I see the "unlocked by" and "unlocks" thing working pretty well on infoboxes, so there's no need for mission numbers yet. Staying neutral untill further explanations. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
    • Well, that is what I mean, but there is evidently some kind of sequence, somehow, because how are experienced Youtubers numbering them? And there's clearly an order, Rockstar ordering missions in the "Replay Mission" feature. It'd be really useful, but now you mention the "Unlocked by" and "Unlocks", I think I might close this, as that's good enough tbh. Monk Talk 12:17, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
I've not seen so many videos walkthroughs in YT other than the ones that I used to get some mission screenshots, but I guess they just pick one of the available missions and start a video for it. That's not a sequence, or at least it should not be followed. I agree about using the sequence from the "Replay Mission" in Missions in GTA V though. Do not close the discussion yet, let's just wait for other users to vote. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 12:47, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I staying neutral on this one. On one hand I agree that a number is better than "This is the first mission (a) gave to (b)". But the only problem is that Their is not any exact order in which the missions are played. If this request is successful, I would support to use the same order as on the "Mission in (game)" page. Myth(Please leave your threats here/Wanna Stalk?) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I don't see the point in this. Most missions have no specific order so what could be Mission #45 for someone would be #46 or #47, etc. , for someone else. We have navboxes and unlocked by/after already as well, and they do the job fine. What we could do is tweak the mission giver line to feature an "Expand" button that shows all missions available from the boss or rewrite all headings to make them less confusing while retaining the information. Following GTASeriesVideos in regards to mission numbering is exactly the same as following the average GTAO Youtuber: speculation. The only factual mission numbering is from R* themselves.

    btw, mission sequence in GTA V's replay menu is not reliable. Many missions can be placed differently, depending on when you do them - Chop for example can be done before Complications or after Complications, and it will be placed on the list whenever you do them. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Since the only thing I agreed was the Replay Mission sequence, and it's not reliable, I'm changing to "No". In addition, I see no problem to mention "this is the [first, second, third, fourth and so on] mission to [protagonist] by [mission giver]", that's the only sequence we actually have. We can improve the "unlocked by"/"unlocks" by adding a feature used at some mission articles in GTA SA, such as Sweet's Girl (see the bottom of the page), particularly for mission series (The Truth (mission series) for example). Thoughts?. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 14:21, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
    • Okay okay...I didn't realise that the missions were not in the same order for everyone, as I didn't realise that depending on what mission you do first, it effects the order numbers. Sorry... Monk Talk 14:50, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Character Manual of Style changeEdit

Closed as successful by TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)


Good day. After a discussion with "Thegtaseeker96" regarding the Manual of Style for characters, I have decided to propose a change to it to place the gallery before the trivia, as apparently all other Manuals of Style have the format as such, with the one for characters being the only one with the trivia before the gallery. Please vote and discuss this.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 19:34, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • Trivia usually is last (many wikis are laid out like this), and it looks a lot neater, so I agree with this change. Manual of Style for Missions would need a change, too, since that one also says that gallery is last. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
    • This should also be applied to the MoS for neighborhoods and weapons. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 23:23, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • Needless to say. That's what I've been doing since I started editing here. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sure. It was odd to have the Trivia before gallery, which is contrary to the actual one. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • I also have been placing the gallery before the trivia on a lot of different articles since I joined the wikia. I don't know why, but placing the gallery at the very botton of the page always looked "ugly" to me. DLVIII Talk 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • Since I joined the Wiki I've always been placing Trivia sections at the foot of the page, just as a given. With regards to the MoS, it is mainly a guideline I don't think it needs to be followed to the letter as the most important points in a page is the correct information and correctly licenced and named images, but if this change will clear up any grey areas then I'm all for it. Sam Talk 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • Everyone basically pointed out all my concerns, as an admin. No need to comment anything else :P Monk Talk 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • I am closing this proposal as successful, and I will make changes to the Manual of Style for missions and characters. I must admit that I am a slight bit cheesed off about this change (even though I proposed it), as I will now need to return to several character articles that I have created following the (now invalid) Manual of Style for characters, and change the format. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

ResignationEdit

Hey guys, bad news for some of you and good news for others... Unfortunately I haven't been editing very often here and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable to visit Wikis every day; it doesn't mean that I don't like the GTA Wiki, but that I want to change some things in my life, like, instead of sitting in front of a computer to edit video game articles, I want to do something more, how can I say? Well, I think you guys will understand my reason...

Also, I started to lose my interest in the GTA series after the Heists Update, since I myself am not a multiplayer person and I'm not really playing video games very often recently, so I'm feeling a little egoistical to occupy the admin spot, which should be taken by someone else.

That's all I wanted to say; I will still come here, especially in chat to talk to my colleagues, but no longer as an admin.

Special thanks to my wiki friends: JamalMonkSamLeoAlexHunter558 and U94N. EagleIcon AndreEagle17 PS3 Triangle PS3 Cross PS3 Circle 19:02, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • Andre's point is understandable. I too am starting to lose a little interest in GTA, as I am also trying to focus on my personal goals, education and career, which also involves the planning and putting things together of my own future sandbox game. However, I'm holding the spot here because I know I am still needed. Until I have the feelings things will run smoothly here without me having rights, I will remain a bureaucrat. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 19:19, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Well, my friend, it has been really, really great, to have you as an admin here. You have been one of the best admins here, it will be a shame to see you go. All the best, Monk ;) PS It's still nice to have you around :) Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 19:22, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • Ahh, this makes me a little sad, but I can understand why you're leaving. You have your whole life ahead of you, and like you said, edting information about a video game isn't a good way to spend it, create art! You've told me some about that video game idea you had, so stick with it man! It's been great having you as an editor here Andre, you'll do well at what you put your mind to. Mortsnarg (talk) 23:21, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not surprised anymore, because most of the staff are resigning, and I feel it will be me soon. I've lost interest, and I've done enough for the wiki. Leo68 (talk) 02:44, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Its natural that so many people here are losing interest in GTA, after two years I'm actually surprised that we lasted that long. I will probably gonna need to resign at some point in the near future too, thanks to personal problems, hell, I'm already WAY less active then I used to be. Anyway, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish, dude. DLVIII Talk 03:22, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Ever since people are leaning towards next-gen, last-gen has been left to rot since Rockstar Games now focuses on future updates exclusive to next-gen. A shame to see you go, dude, but you've been really awesome in the end. I'm still into GTA, but not by much as I usually focus on edits on a regular basis. And no, I don't have any desire of being an admin for it, as it can only add more weight down my shoulders and will become swamped as a result of keeping the pages from future attacks by trouble-making users. All in all, best of luck on the outside world. JohnSignature 04:03, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Good luck and see you around :) DocVinewood (talk) 11:48, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sad to see you go. Best of luck and all the best. Sad to see others on the staff mentioning that they might resign too. I think once you lose interest in something whether it will be editing on here or on Wikia in general, then it is hard to get that interest back. I have tried numerous times to get back into editing, but after a few days I get bored and real life takes over as it should and I feel I don't have the time for it anymore. Messi1983 (talk) 00:44, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • It's sad to see you go. But what else can we do? It's okay considering that not everything is being on the wiki all the time. Sooner or later, our lifes takes form, and it means focusing on other important things and sucess, No?. Anyway. Take care, man and good luck. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 15:52, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

GTA Wiki To-Do ListEdit

Closed as successful by LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 10:55, October 27, 2015 (UTC)


Hey! So I was looking around the highly-thought-through, sophisticated Saints Row Wiki (along with the for now-anonymous boring-as-hell user), and I saw a really useful article (many in fact), a 'To Do list'. Now, I'm aware we do/did have a to do list, but in honesty, it hasn't been updated in donkey's years, so, I was thinking we could revamp it. Of course, only staff can edit and add to it (unless, of course, you prefer not, and anyone) (as long as all types of staff can edit it permanently). I'd keep on top of it, associating it with projects put forward here would be great, and should be mandatory tbh. Benefits? Well, many in fact, sometimes, things need to be addressed, and quite a few times I've been stumbled on what to do next (despite the fact I have my own 'mini to do list'), so this would help both users and staff.

Tell me what you think, yes, or no? Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 08:36, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

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  • Would be a good idea. There are a number of mission pages which definitely need a lot of work, and delegating tasks would be beneficial in the long run. Sam Talk 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree with Sam. MC My Computer Master Of Ceremonies 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • Brilliant! So, I've created a prototype, here, which, what I think works well, has subcategories, and furthermore, subheadings, to categorize the work into the type of work (e.g. vehicles, locations, missions, etc), and then distinguish (if applicable) what game the project or work focuses on, which are separated by headings. Took literally 5 minutes. See what you think :P Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 11:10, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • Looks good Monk. Hopefully we'll get more support. Sam Talk 12:29, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Good idea. One thing I would like to add is that the to do list page should bee divided into sections like Missions, Locations etc. This will make it easy for editors to find the page they can add more info about.Myth(Talk/Stalk) 14:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Excellent idea! I think we can get a lot done here, and do it efficently with other people picking up different tasks. I think it would make a much more "united" community here. Mortsnarg (talk) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • I have plenty to add if this goes through sucessful :P If it does, I'll create the articles, and I will let users (along with myself) add anything they think should be listed as a project or as something we need to finish. Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 15:57, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sounds good. It would be beneficial for those pages that aren't checked for a long time. Agreed with that idea. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Have you seen the pages made before the community split? A.K.A everything relating to The Ballad of Gay Tony, and everything that came before it. Great idea. Leo68 (talk) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • A wonderful idea myself I would say! Also, a good way to get the community to work together more! --Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Great idea. If we also could incorporate this to-do-list to the message that appears to every single new user every time they do their first edit it would also help a lot. DLVIII Talk 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • I was going to point that out lol. That'd be great, make it a big thing here, make it viewable from everywhere on the wiki, we need to make this big, and when somet's big, it needs to be fancy, great quality, and full of endless projects and work for anyone to contribute; keeps the edit counts up, keeps the work going, and best of all, keeps the wiki expanding :P Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 21:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • This should not even be a question :p I think this is an excellent idea since it will allow the wiki to be a bit more organized. A huge problem - and one of people's major complaints about the wiki - is that there is a lot of speculative/unsourced content which lowers the wiki's overall credibility. Speculation is being removed when it's spotted but there are still pages left to correct. I believe that a to-do list, such as adding references to anything even remotely questionable, would be a good start, and, as it was already said, it would get the community to help out more. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Same as Sam and Hunter.-MythHunter 007 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
  • Impatience* Could we get this closed as successful so I can start the project? Or am I granted permission to start it without it being closed as successful? (Seen as it's very likely to go through as yes anyway).  Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 19:47, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

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