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This noticeboard is for discussion and voting on changes to the wiki, reporting vandalism and wiki rule breaking, and reporting bad or unfair behaviour from GTA Wiki staff.
 
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Votes for the expiration of a Patroller's probation will also be held here.
   
 
For requests for promotion, please go to '''[[GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion]]'''.
 
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We currently have a lot of staff so there will be no more Patroller requests for a while. Current Patrollers may request to be promoted to Admin status by voting on the Requests for Promotion Page.
 
   
 
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'''Voting Rules'''<br />
 
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*Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another user's vote.
 
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==Merge Compromise==
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Okay, this discussion again. I noticed a widespread split of several pages. Now, I can go off on one and say "It wasn't authorized" "This is a bad idea" blah, blah, blah. No, I do not want to deal with more fall out on this case. So, some vehicles, from what I've seen, have been unncessarily split. So I propose;
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*Keep Kuruma (Armored) as part of the variants on the Kuruma page.
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*Have a page for Baller LE, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Baller LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter V12, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
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*Have a page for Cognoscenti 55, with armored in the variants section.
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*Keep Cognoscenti (Armored) as part of the variants on the Cognoscenti page.
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These cars (upgraded/changed Schafter, Baller & Cog) do have different design and some have different performances, but having armor doesn't warrant its own page.
   
'''Please input your new requests above the old ones. That way, we can easily spot it rather than looking for it.'''
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The Buffalo S & Oracle XS have major differences so I can put my personal feelings to one side on this matter. Insurgent/9F/Rancher/Sentinel/Granger etc. can stay separate, because I know they're variants, but they have different performance, design and whatever else, so if it keeps the calm here, good, and if the Schafter is renamed, or the Baller or Cavalacade, then we'll split like we've done in the past. I just don't think there should be separate pages, jut because it has armor on it. The exception being Duke O'Death, because it has a different name, it's not just Dukes (Armored). Also, to close the matter on the Roosevelt Valor, if it comes out and has different performance, design and naming, that it should have its own page.
==[[Template:Welcome]]==
 
Guys, we need to get this template up and running. I concieved and created this back in July and ran it through the noticeboard. I just updated it (as I type this here). Like I said before, this welcome template will be more helpful for new users on GTA Wiki and/or Wikia. They will know what to do once they read the policies included in the template and who to contact when an act of malice is happening. I don't think we need a "Vote" section because it has been given all "Yes" in the last one, but I'm going to put one up for the hell of it :P. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''<small>([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talker]]</small>''' * <small>[[User blog:Tony_1998|Blogger]] * </small> '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Stalker]])</small>'''-- 04:42, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Votes (optional)===
 
*Yes - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 09:49, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 16:55, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 03:21, December 30, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 13:47, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
 
*It looks amazing! Good job. :) <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 09:49, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I love it! - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 16:55, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Looks great!
 
*Yep, it looks awesome. It would be cool if we could include the [[GTA Wiki:Policy|policy page]] in the template too. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 13:47, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 
**I have added the policy page on it. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''<small>([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talker]]'''</small> * <small>[[User blog:Tony_1998|Blogger]] * </small> '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Stalker]])</small>'''-- 08:27, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 
   
==New image policy template==
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I also reccomend that we can add the note below to the MoS;
Hi guys. I'm writing this idea here instead on a blog post to get more attention.
 
   
Everyday, the image policy is violated, mostly by new users. Me and other staff members always leave a message on their talk pages to follow the image policy. We post daily these messages. I'm not being lazy, but to post these warning/help messages faster and easier, I created a template for it. See <nowiki>Template:Image policy</nowiki>. Writing <nowiki>{{Image policy}}</nowiki> will formulate this text: ''When uploading images, please follow our [[GTA Wiki:Image Policy|image policy]] both in naming and licensing. Otherwise the images will be deleted.'' '''Important note: Always write your signature after the template.'''
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'''Vehicles variants that have significant changes in performance, design and naming, such as second generation vehicles, should be made as two separate pages.'''
   
If you want to change some parts of the text, debate it in the comments section below. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm hoping that this issue can finally be resolved after all the issues in the last year or so surrounding it. If there's any other vehicles that have minor differences you feel need to be merged besides those listed above, or if you have any questions, comments or concerns, please leave it below. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:47, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:AK-28|'''AK-28''']] ([[User talk:AK-28|Talk]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/AK-28|Edits]]) 11:38, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 16:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*This will be a lot easier for us. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:47, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*So, you want to keep the armored variants into their respective pages? Well, I was thinking on that. Also, I noticed both the Rebel and the Sanchez are listed to split, which I found it quite odd, as both has slight changes (apart of the almost-impossible Buzzard, which was dropped). As for the MoS note, well, most second gen cars has the same names as the original cars (or 1st gen in that case), so that would be confusing for the Schafter and the Baller. For me, I would agree in your point, but I don't have control of the project. --<span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 03:41, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
*I changed "can" to "will"[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:43, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
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**The beater version of the Rebel is called Rusty Rebel on the website...different name = different page. Exact same case with the Sanchez. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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*Can't see why the Rebel and Sanchez are split besides beater and livery changes, respectively. As for the MoS, if it's a vehicle like the Buffalo (which has S) or Oracle (XS), then it falls under the rule. Schafters, Cavalcades and Ballers, not yet, not unless R* change the name. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 03:49, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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*honestly Wilds idea of splitting EVERYTHING with differing names still attracts me more than the idea of merging armored ones. Why? Well, because now you're making exceptions. And exceptions = no consistency. If we just stick to the rule of 'different nsme = different page', there'll be absolutely no exceptions and it will be consistent. The way its going is fine to me. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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**Yes but the most of these vehicles are split because they have different design and or performance. The armored vehicles have no differences in design or performance. They only have an altered name, so we have 8 pages of armored vehicles with identical design and performance to their stock vehicles. The design and performance difference is why pages were split in the first place. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 08:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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**Actually the performances between the armored versions differs, especially the new Cogs, Schafters, Ballers. Guy A <small>(Junior)</small> - [[User: That Ferrari Guy|That Ferrari Guy]] ([[User talk: That Ferrari Guy|talk]]) 15:06, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:That Ferrari Guy|That Ferrari Guy]] (Patroller)==
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'''''Closed as successful by '''''[[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
==News Team Staff==
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That Ferrari "Guy"'s probation is pretty much up so it's time for everyone to vote as to whether they think he has passed. Remember, only admins and bureaucrats can vote, patrollers and normal users may leave comments.
<font color=green>News Team Found</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:46, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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====Votes====
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Affirmative''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 20:24, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 04:46, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes-''' [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
   
Now that we have agreed on there being a wiki news team, we need to see who wants to be in the staff. I'm going to be one of the members and we will need two more people to do it. I will do Mondays, someone else will do one on Thursdays and another user will do one on Sundays. If you want to do it, then vote "Yes" in the votes section and if you don't then put "No" into the votes section. Once this is done, members of staff will vote for who they want to be in it. Staff members who are nominated cannot vote for themselves. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
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====Comments====
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*I think you've done really well in your second probation period. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*I believe that you have done an excellent job as a Patroller. I am quite confident that you will pass your probation. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 19:26, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*He did extremely well. Opened a little too early but tomorrow he won't be online till later (as far as I hear). Well done bud. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
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*I haven't been around long enough to notice Guy's work, but he worked well last time around, and the votes above tell me he's done just as well. Closed as successful. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:TAlim 1994|TAlim 1994]] (Patroller)==
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Outcome: '''PASS'''
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*Yes [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:05, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
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(Admins and Bureaucrats only)
*'''Yes (read my comment)''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 11:08, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:29, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 12:44, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 16:34, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*I've shown my interest for this idea, but for family-related reasons, I won't be able to be here, in the schedule we had agreed on. However, if you need any help, I might do something, although I'm not sure about the time I get home. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 11:08, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
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(Everyone)
*Of course. I'm thinking of posting news posts like Tips/Tricks in GTA games, trivias, polls, it would be awesome. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:29, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*I have decided to take the liberty of setting up my own probation expiry vote to save other Staff the trouble. Please vote when you are able to. Thank you. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 10:51, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
*Ok, we have our new team!  [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 19:46, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*You've done very well during your probation and it would be good for you to continue. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
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*You made a good progress and you're efficient as a patroller. I say "yes". --<span style="background-color:white; border:4px ridge black; color:#FFFFFF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
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*You did great. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
   
==New Administrator. Solutions.==
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==Vehicle Variants System 2.0==
As you know, Winter Moon has been demoted. So far, three ('''EDIT:''' four) patrollers, including me, want to apply for promotion. But which is the best solution? Posting a bunch of requests? I think not. So I thought of doing something like this:
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Okay guys, you're probably going to shoot me for this, but I have a new idea. I suggested the idea (albeit hesitantly considering the outcome and affect it'd have on the Staff here) in Chat one evening with Leo, who agreed it was a fantastic idea. He agreed in a good manner and suggested I sent it to the Community Noticeboard to propose it. So, Leo, if you disagree now, I'm gonna kill you :P
   
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The idea is, well, pretty simple really. Instead of shoving all the Variants into the same article of the main vehicle, create a sub-page "[Vehicle Name]/Variants" and list them all in there. I really think this makes it A LOT tidier. I have started my first example, [[User:Monkeypolice188/Experiments/2016 Variants Project|here]]. I did the Granger. On the Granger article, at the variants section, you'll notice a "Main" template, which will link you to the Variants sub-page which lists all the emergency counterparts. For navigational purposes, the 4 variants are listed at the top, the links send you to the parts of the page (try it out, "Press me!" :P).
'''Applied for promotion:'''
 
*[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]
 
*[[User:Tony 1998|Tony 1998]]
 
*[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]]
 
*[[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]]
 
   
'''Votes:'''<br />
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Now, I separated the pages with a "<nowiki>----</nowiki>" bar to make it clearer where each vehicle ends. I really like this system, and I'm confident it would work for many vehicles (only ones I'm concerned about are where we draw the line as what counts as a variant (example, Phantom and Rubble?), as well as when a vehicle crosses the Universe boundary but doesn't count as a variant in one of the Universes.
''Only Bureaucrats and Admins can vote.''
 
*[[User:McJeff|McJeff]] nominated '''Thomas'''
 
*[[User:Ilan xd|Ilan xd]] nominated '''Tony'''
 
*[[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] nominated '''Dodo'''
 
*[[User:The Tom|The Tom]] nominated '''Sasquatch'''
 
   
''ETC.''
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So, please, this is '''not''' a vote, as for now, I'm just letting you comment to see what you think. Again, this is only an alpha (not even beta) project, I want to see what you think.
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<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 08:29, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Votes===
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Oh, one more thing, '''this is not a place to start an argument'''. If we start arguing in an uncivil manner, I'll simply close it and delete the project. Just tell me what you think, and if I get good reception, '''maybe''' I'll turn it into a vote.
:''You can only vote by "Yes", "No", or "See My Comment".''
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 09:01, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Tar lads. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 12:02, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 10:37, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 18:09, November 1, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' - '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:38, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 20:04, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 06:09, November 2, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''See my comment '''- <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 20:55, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*Sounds good. I understand it will be an Admin + Bureaucrat only vote? [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 09:01, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*I think it is a good idea. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 12:25, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
:*Yup. <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 16:05, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*From what I see on the Granger examples, that would mean that pages like "Park Ranger", "FIB Granger", "Lifeguard SUV", etc. would no longer exist and be instead merged into "Granger/Variants" page. Correct? If so, no, never. They are separated for a reason, and it's pretty obvious a specific vehicle is a variant anyway - a mention such as "Main Article: [vehicle]" and a very short paragraph would be enough. It's good as it is now, and things like that are usually '''''very volatile''''' as evidenced from past votes/ideas. IMHO it would be a better idea to split everything, instead of having a hacky system of vehicle subsections like Kuruma (Armored), Insurgent Pick-Up, Rusty Rebel etc. have now - that would save the time and confusion of making and reading these pages - but the last time we agreed that only select vehicles would end up like the examples I mentioned so that would bring an end to these sort of ideas, and arguments resulting from them, which is why it'd be better to leave it as it is. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 12:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
*This method is good and fast. I hope we could make things fast and easier and without making it too much turbulent :) By the way, Jeff created a ''test'' for admin cases (see [http://gta.wikia.com/User:McJeff/Admin_cases here]) that I found interesting, and I want to fill too. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 10:37, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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**Yeah I agree. I was pretty hesitant myself when writing this and hence why i've only decided to right this more than a month after he suggested I put it forward. Again, it's just an idea and not something I'm insisting should be done. I only insist when I'm fully confident :P <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:23, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
**Yeah, I also like the look of them. I read them earlier. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 10:45, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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*Your proposal is intriguing, but I must admit that it sounds like a monumental change, and not one which should be implemented on a whim. As "[[User:WildBrick142|Wildbrick142]]" has said, it will not be a good idea to merge all the pages of different variants of vehicles that have substantially different stock performance specifications. Instead I would suggest creating a "Variants" heading on the page of the base vehicle, creating a sub-heading for each variant of the vehicle, adding a "Main" template that links to the vehicle page for that variant, and inserting a concise description on how the variant differs from the base vehicle. Also, a "Disambiglink" template should be placed at the start of the page of each variant, stating something along the lines of "For the vehicle that the [Variant Name] is based on, see [Base Vehicle Name]". [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 07:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
**They look interesting. It's a nice idea. <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 16:06, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I prefer using the word "nominated" instead of "picked", but well, I guess it'a '''Yes'''. Nevermind, back to ''AC4''. ^^ -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:38, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:*I changed it to "nominated". <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 08:26, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*This method seems like the best way to deal with promoting another admin. Just for the record I'm applying for admin as well. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 06:09, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I don't know. I'll wait to see what Dan and Jeff have to say. There's something about this idea that I don't like, but I'm not sure exactly what that is yet. Also, I think Jeff has his own idea about how to decide, I'd like to hear about that before voting on anything.  <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 20:55, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I prefer the community vote method. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 21:48, December 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Same. Wasn't Jeff thinking of a way to help decide? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 21:59, December 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
*The fairest way to have four people run for the same position, I think, would be to do the following. I'll add a few general knowledge questions to the admin case studies page, things I think admins should know (for example: "In your own words, what is 'assume good faith?'" "Describe a situation in which you should not use your powers to block someone. Then I'll have all people interested in running for the promotion fill it out and email it to me (this is so people don't influence each other's answers). Then I'll post everyone's answers. Then we have a vote where people can specify 'yes', 'no', and optionally one person as 'first choice', which would mean that although that candidate isn't the only one qualified he's the one you think would be best. In the event of a tie of yesses the person with more 'first choice' votes wins. My biggest concern with this way of doing it is that I don't know how many total voters we can expect to have involved especially since the four people running wouldn't vote. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 03:40, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*Alright Jeff. So, what's your email? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 09:16, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
::*I think the ones who should vote should be part of the staff, only admins and bureaucrats if possible.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 10:50, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I want Dan's and Tom's ok on this before we go ahead with it, then I'll give you guys my email. <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> ([[User_talk:McJeff|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|stalk]]) 17:05, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I like that idea a lot. I think we should handle all future promotions like that. I also think that the vote should be admins and b'crats only. My only concern is that users could find the ideal answers to your questions through this Wiki or Community Central, so we'll have to watch out for that. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 18:18, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I am okay with this idea. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 21:11, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
::::Yeah, great idea. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 16:57, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
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==Toning Down Trivia==
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Alright, well it's been discussed [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/GTA_Wiki:Community_Noticeboard/Archive_3 in the past], so to make it short: let's take it easy on the trivia and reserve it for stuff we have not seen. Pages, such as the [[Heavy Revolver]] for example (which I have fixed since), had information that was best well fit in the derscription section. Other pages contain trivia that was already mentioned, too obvious, speculative (most of the time), or in some cases, it was not even worth mentioning. I just want to get the community a heads-up to tone down the trivia and to make sure that the information you found regarding to a specific page is best suited in the description, appearance, etc.
   
==Expanding This Wiki==
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--'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 18:21, January 18, 2016 (UTC) 
Closed as <font color=red>Unsuccessful</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:47, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Hey there, since this Wiki is popular among Wikia, I was thinking that we can expand this among Facebook, YouTube, etc. There is already a Facebook page for the GTA Wiki members and the [[GTA Wiki:Crew:GTA Wikia Crew|GTAWC]] (which I have yet to announce its launch :/). For YouTube, we can upload clips, tips, and video walkthroughs for the entire world. I think that we have a chance to traffic new users with this idea. If you think/don't think so, then leave your "so's" on the Vote and Comments below. --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''<small>([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talker]]</small>''' * <small>[[User blog:Tony_1998|Blogger]] * </small> '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Stalker]])</small>'''-- 00:53, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 13:10, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 06:11, November 2, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''No''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 11:13, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:26, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''No''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 12:34, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
===Comments===
 
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*Also, if the videos are good enough, then we could perhaps put them onto this wiki. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 13:10, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
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*Agreed. Some of the GTA IV mission pages are the worst offenders for "trivia" I've seen. I'm all for Trivia sections but I personally think a section with one or two relevant facts is better than 20 irrelevant facts. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 19:01, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
*I think a youtube channel would be a great way to entice new users to join the wiki. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 06:11, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*Sounds good. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 19:37, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
*We get enough visits and we already put in a lot of work. We don't need extra promotion. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 11:13, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
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*I completely agree that the trivia should be reserved for important and relevant facts regarding the article it refers to, but I should also point out that what one user regards as "important" might not be regarded as such by another, which may lead to potentially ugly disputes. Perhaps general guidelines for what should and should not be added to the trivia of each category of article (missions, characters, businesses, etc.) should be created to preempt such disputes. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font face="Segoe Script" color="Ghostwhite"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 14:42, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
*Yes, this is a great idea, I think we should post narrated videos, like ''Hello guys, I'm (....) from GTA Wiki and this is our channel and we will show you how to...''. So people will acknowledge that we are from the GTA Wiki. But, somebody who can edit videos (not my case) should be posting these videos, and plus, after all this huge wave of gamers on Youtube after GTA V's release, I'm not sure that we will gain success. --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 11:26, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
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**[[GTA Wiki:Trivia|Here]]'s the official policy on Trivia. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 15:30, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
*I could fully understand doing this, if we actually profited from the site. Since we don't, it's a hell of a lot of work for no reward. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 12:27, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
*At first, I though it could bring in a lot of people, but seeing this from Tom's point of view, it might just be resultless work. In [[Patrick McReary|Packie McReary]]'s words: "Well, that was a whole lot of work, for no ****ing reward!". - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 12:35, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Wiki News Team==
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==Resignation==
Closed as <font color=green>Successful</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:41, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
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I think it's time for me to move on and resign as administrator, as I'm busy IRL to edit here and I've also been losing interest in the GTA series lately. Besides, it's fair for the most active patrollers to leave an open admin spot so one of them can be promoted. I'm not leaving the wiki, I will still edit here, but just not as often. Good luck everybody, and see you around :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 10:59, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi there. I've been looking at multiple wikis and I notice that quite a few of them have working news teams. These news teams usually have 7 members on them; one for each day of the week. I think we should have a wiki news team as they look pretty good. We would need 7 users (preferably staff or very large contributors) that could be the news reporters. Here are 2 examples: [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:This_username_better_work/CoDWiki_News_-_October_27th,_2013#comm-574890 Call of Duty Wiki News] and the [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Agent_c/The_Nukapedia_News_Digest_-_26_October_2013#Around_the_wiki Fallout Wiki News]. How do you guys feel about this? [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 13:46, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
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:Sheesh. Sorry to hear that my friend. You've been great here man. I've always looked up to you as a great admin. Have a great New Year and enjoy your life :) take care buddy. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:15, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
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:Sorry to see you go Doc but I can fully understand why. Look after yourself and hopefully you'll be back soon. Happy New Year. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 14:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:31, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:49, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 08:14, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes - [[User:Owen1983|Owen1983]] ([[User talk:Owen1983|talk]]) 18:46, October 30, 2013 (UTC)'''
 
*'''Yes''' - '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 19:46, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes ''' - [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:59, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*'''Yes''' - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 11:04, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
===Comments===
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::Thanks for you comments, and happy New Year to you as well :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 16:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC) 
*The idea is good, pretty good indeed. But will we have to create a special news page for it or simply a blog post created by a random user? --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 14:31, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
**It would be a blog post by the news person on his day. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 14:37, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Nice :) --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 15:53, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
*Good idea, Tom. Do you have any candidates for the spots, already? I could do it, but not right now, as I'm being overthrown with school tests since last week, and this streak will only end next week. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:49, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
**I'll be one and you could be one and there'll be others. Let's say the blog post must be up by 2:00pm and if it isn't then someone else will make it. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 18:20, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
***Hmm...let me just see something...at this moment, in Portugal, it's 5:05 pm. What about there? - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:05, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
****Exact same time. From sending this it is 5:19pm. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 17:19, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
*****Alright. But I can only log in from 5:30 pm and 6:15 pm, regularly (today I got home early, because one of our teachers got sick), so according to that, we'd have to program a schedule that'd work for me, you, and anyone else who wants to join in. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:24, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
******And if it doesn't work for someone we can slightly adjust it. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 17:32, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
*******Fine by me, then. :) - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 17:35, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
*I agree, but I think that 2 or 3 users with good skills are enough. <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]] 08:14, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
**We'll have to see what everyone else says. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 09:00, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
*This is a great idea. I love how the COD Wiki does that, and I think this wiki could benifit from it also. I could do the job in a month or so, if one's open, but not currently because I've been moving and haven't even been able to play GTA V yet. But I'll hopefully get it this weekend so I might be able to go on the wiki in a month when I finish it.  [[User:Boomer8|Boomer8]] ([[User talk:Boomer8|talk]]) 04:59, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
*The ideal time to do this would've been a few months before the release of GTA V. But I guess there will be a lot of Online DLC - and maybe some SP DLC - coming out so it could still work. I'm not sure we will have news every day so maybe we could just have 2 or 3 users who do it. There's more to work out but it could work. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro"><b>[[User:The Tom|Tom]]</b></font> [[User talk:The Tom|<sup><u>Talk</u></sup>]] 11:04, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
**Ok. I guess we could have it twice a week with just two users doing it. One could be on wednesday and one could be on perhaps saturday. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 13:08, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
==Templates for New articles==
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:::Sorry to see you go Doc. You've been great here and we really are thankful for the thousands of spectacular images you've added here. I also feel your case, as I myself am not as active as before and am losing interest in GTA as well, mostly because I'm focusing on other things in life and my future game and don't have much time for video games in general now. As I always said they're better things in life than video games. The only reason I'm not resigning is because I'm afraid to leave the wiki and all sorts of shit start up here such as vandals and what not. Anyways, I hope you find what you're looking for in life and have a happy new year.[[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:42, December 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
Closed as <font color=green>Successful</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:41, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
At the moment a couple people use mine, I think. I created a [[Manual of Style/Vehicles/Template|blank template]] to quickly create a new article with the structure according to the MoS (copy and paste). I'm thinking maybe we should have a blank template for each MoS and then maybe link them to community messages so others can quickly create articles using them. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 10:10, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
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::::I'm sorry to hear this Doc, but I understand. Happy New Year for you and your family ! [[User:General9913|General9913]] ([[User talk:General9913|talk]]) 21:07, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
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{{RI}} It's a shame to see you go, Doc. I understand your point about being busy, but hey, you made it very well here, and that matters. Anyway, have a great one over there :D --<span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:System;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 03:32, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
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It's a shame the year ends with another resignation. Can't say I'm not disappointed, Doc, you've done great things here, but I can understand your reasoning. Good luck. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 06:05, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
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It is sad to see you go. You have been a great admin. It was nice having you around here. [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 21:28, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
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==Probation Expiry - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth hunter]] (Patroller)==
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'''''Closed as successful by '''''[[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''Yes''' - --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 20:20, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
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(Admins and Bureaucrats only)
*'''Yes''' - [[file:AK-47-GTA4.png|link=http://gta.wikia.com/AK-47|I like the AK-47, a problem?|50px]][[User:AK-28|<font face= "Rage Italic" >AK-28</font>]] ([[User talk:AK-28|Talk]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/AK-28|Edits]]) 20:51, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
*Yes. [[User:Altaïr Skywalker 47|Altaïr Skywalker 47]] ([[User talk:Altaïr Skywalker 47|talk]]) 10:15, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 15:56, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 17:24, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes '''- [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 19:46, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
===Comments===
 
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*During the recent run of information I was able to create the base of a vehicle article in about four minutes. I am a bit used to it, yes, but having the blank template available does help streamline the process of creating multiple articles within a certain discipline. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 20:33, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
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*Agree but I want the to do the weapons template/standard page myself also if I have some time I create weapon status template like your vehicle statuts template. [[file:AK-47-GTA4.png|link=http://gta.wikia.com/AK-47|I like the AK-47, a problem?|50px]][[User:AK-28|<font face= "Rage Italic" >AK-28</font>]] ([[User talk:AK-28|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/AK-28|Edits]]) 20:51, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
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*At first his edits were okay, then they dropped a bit, but he's managed to pick it up lately, and he ''did'' tell me his internet was causing issues in logging in, etc, so we can't exactly blame some of his inactivity, He'll fair well as a Patroller and makes good contributions, as well as reinforces the policies and always informs me about vandals to block. He's very useful in chat too, blocked many sockpuppets lately. He's a great Patroller, and I'm sure if the internet issues are fixed, he'll become active even more. Good luck Myth :) <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*Though I've been absent and a lot less active recently sadly, I know Myth has improved a lot since his first time. He deserves the position without a doubt. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
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*Really did improve since the last probabtion expiry. You have my '''''yes''''' in spirit. :) --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 19:45, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
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*Activity was the only issue before, and that has been fixed. With my vote as the sixth yes, I am closing it as successful. Congratulations, Myth hunter. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Image Policy 'group'==
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==Mission Numbers in Infoboxes==
Closed as <font color=green>Successful</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:41, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
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:'''''Closed as <span style="color:red">Unsuccessful</span> by [[User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188]]'''''.
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So earlier I was thinking we could have Mission Numbers in the infoboxes of missions, because the ''"this is the first mission given to [a] by [b]''" can be slightly misleading or misinterpreted at first. This wouldn't be that hard and I can really only see it following how either the GTASeriesVideos name them, '''OR''' the order they ard listed on the main "''Missiins in [gams]''" article. Essentially, it makes navigation easier, makes identifying any referencs to mission numbers '''outside''' GTA Wiki easier to understand, and gives missions a simpler ordering system.
   
:''This idea was suggested by [[User:Instulent]]. ''
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What do you think? <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 09:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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===Votes===
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*'''<s>Neutral</s> No''' - [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''No''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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===Comments===
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*If you're adding mission numbers, then you're establishing a mission sequence, is it that what you mean? I didn't get your point.Because if it is, only thing I can say is that it's a sandbox game, players can choose whatever sequence they want. I see the "unlocked by" and "unlocks" thing working pretty well on infoboxes, so there's no need for mission numbers yet. Staying neutral untill further explanations. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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**Well, that is what I mean, but there is evidently some kind of sequence, somehow, because how are experienced Youtubers numbering them? And there's clearly an order, Rockstar ordering missions in the "Replay Mission" feature. It'd be really useful, but now you mention the "Unlocked by" and "Unlocks", I think I might close this, as that's good enough tbh. <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 12:17, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I've not seen so many videos walkthroughs in YT other than the ones that I used to get some mission screenshots, but I guess they just pick one of the available missions and start a video for it. That's not a sequence, or at least it should not be followed. I agree about using the sequence from the "Replay Mission" in [[Missions in GTA V]] though. Do not close the discussion yet, let's just wait for other users to vote. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 12:47, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*I staying neutral on this one. On one hand I agree that a number is better than "This is the first mission (a) gave to (b)". But the only problem is that Their is not any exact order in which the missions are played. If this request is successful, I would support to use the same order as on the "Mission in (game)" page. [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Please leave your threats here]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Wanna Stalk?]]) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*Honestly, I don't see the point in this. Most missions have no specific order so what could be Mission #45 for someone would be #46 or #47, etc. , for someone else. We have navboxes and unlocked by/after already as well, and they do the job fine. What we could do is tweak the mission giver line to feature an "Expand" button that shows all missions available from the boss or rewrite all headings to make them less confusing while retaining the information. Following GTASeriesVideos in regards to mission numbering is exactly the same as following the average GTAO Youtuber: speculation. The only factual mission numbering is from R* themselves.<br /><br />btw, mission sequence in GTA V's replay menu is not reliable. Many missions can be placed differently, depending on when you do them - Chop for example can be done before Complications or after Complications, and it will be placed on the list whenever you do them. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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*Since the only thing I agreed was the Replay Mission sequence, and it's not reliable, I'm changing to "No". In addition, I see no problem to mention "this is the [first, second, third, fourth and so on] mission to [protagonist] by [mission giver]", that's the only sequence we actually have. We can improve the "unlocked by"/"unlocks" by adding a feature used at some mission articles in GTA SA, such as [[Sweet's Girl]] (see the bottom of the page), particularly for mission series ([[The Truth (mission series)]] for example). Thoughts?. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 14:21, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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**Okay okay...I didn't realise that the missions were not in the same order for everyone, as I didn't realise that depending on what mission you do first, it effects the order numbers. Sorry... <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:50, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
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==Character Manual of Style change==
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'''''Closed as ''successful'' by '''''[[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
So, a few weeks, during a chat conversation, Instulent suggested to create a group of editors who will keep an eye on the files uploading and are able to delete images that: break the policy violations, inappropriate content, duplicates, un-used images etc. <small><-that was edited by Instulent</small>
 
   
This idea is meant to maintain the images uploadings during and after the release of ''[[GTA V]]''.
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Good day. After a discussion with "[[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]]" regarding the [[GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Characters|Manual of Style for characters]], I have decided to propose a change to it to place the gallery before the trivia, as apparently all other Manuals of Style have the format as such, with the one for characters being the only one with the trivia before the gallery. Please vote and discuss this.
   
So, what do you think? -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 18:18, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 19:34, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
===Votes===
 
===Votes===
*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 18:34, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 20:00, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Agree''' - --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 19:32, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''See my comment''' - <span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - '''[[file:AK-47-GTA4.png|link=http://gta.wikia.com/AK-47|I like the AK-47, a problem?|50px]][[User:AK-28|<font face= "Rage Italic" >AK-28</font>]] ([[User talk:AK-28|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/AK-28|Edits]])''' ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 20:06, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Agree''' --'''[[User:Thomas0802|Thomas0802]] • ([[User talk:Thomas0802|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Thomas0802|edits]])''' 22:08, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 00:32, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 10:01, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
*'''We need an IRC channel like #ACwiki-RC in xertion which can monitor wiki edits.... So, Yes.''' [[User:Altaïr Skywalker 47|Altaïr Skywalker 47]] ([[User talk:Altaïr Skywalker 47|talk]]) 10:17, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 11:39, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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===Comments===
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*Trivia usually is last (many wikis are laid out like this), and it looks a lot neater, so I agree with this change. Manual of Style for Missions would need a change, too, since that one also says that gallery is last. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]] 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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**This should also be applied to the MoS for neighborhoods and weapons. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:23, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*Needless to say. That's what I've been doing since I started editing here. [[User:Thegtaseeker96|Thegtaseeker96]] ([[User talk:Thegtaseeker96|talk]]) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*Sure. It was odd to have the Trivia before gallery, which is contrary to the actual one. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
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*I also have been placing the gallery before the trivia on a lot of different articles since I joined the wikia. I don't know why, but placing the gallery at the very botton of the page always looked "ugly" to me. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*Since I joined the Wiki I've always been placing Trivia sections at the foot of the page, just as a given. With regards to the MoS, it is mainly a guideline I don't think it needs to be followed to the letter as the most important points in a page is the correct information and correctly licenced and named images, but if this change will clear up any grey areas then I'm all for it. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*Everyone basically pointed out all my concerns, as an admin. No need to comment anything else :P <font size="4" face="Tahoma"><b>[[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]]</b></font> <font face="Tahoma"><sup>[[User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
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*I am closing this proposal as successful, and I will make changes to the Manual of Style for missions and characters. I must admit that I am a slight bit cheesed off about this change (even though I proposed it), as I will now need to return to several character articles that I have created following the (now invalid) Manual of Style for characters, and change the format. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
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**I have now made the changes and updated the [[The Informant|two]] [[The Dossier Carrier|pages]] with galleries that I created using the old Manual of Style for characters. [[User:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my User page.">TAlim 1994<font color="White"> - Konan T-A Lim</font></span>]] ([[User talk:TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to visit my Talk page.">talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/TAlim 1994|<span title="Click this link to see the contributions that I have made.">contributions</span>]]) 17:44, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
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==Resignation==
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Hey guys, bad news for some of you and good news for others... Unfortunately I haven't been editing very often here and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable to visit Wikis every day; it doesn't mean that I don't like the GTA Wiki, but that I want to change some things in my life, like, instead of sitting in front of a computer to edit video game articles, I want to do something more, how can I say? Well, I think you guys will understand my reason...
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Also, I started to lose my interest in the GTA series after the [[Heists Update]], since I myself am not a multiplayer person and I'm not really playing video games very often recently, so I'm feeling a little egoistical to occupy the admin spot, which should be taken by someone else.
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That's all I wanted to say; I will still come here, especially in chat to talk to my colleagues, but no longer as an admin.
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Special thanks to my wiki friends: [[User:Smashbro8|Jamal]], [[User:Monkeypolice188|Monk]], [[User:SJWalker|Sam]], [[User:Leon Davis|Leo]], [[User:Mortsnarg|Alex]], [[User:Myth hunter|Hunter]], [[User:558050|558]] and [[User:Ultimate94ninja|U94N]]. [[File:EagleIcon.png|30px|Say hello to the eagle!]] <font size="5"><span style="color:aqua; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px #FF0000;"><font face=Rage>[[User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]]</font></span> [[File:PS3 Triangle.png|25px|link=User talk:AndreEagle17|Press triangle to interact]] [[File:PS3 Cross.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/AndreEagle17|Press X to stalk]] [[File:PS3 Circle.png|25px|link=User blog:AndreEagle17|Press circle to blog]] </font> 19:02, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
 
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*Due to how high the image policy violations are right now when GTA V hasn't even been released, I think this will be a good idea, especially for when GTA V is released. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 18:36, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Andre's point is understandable. I too am starting to lose a little interest in GTA, as I am also trying to focus on my personal goals, education and career, which also involves the planning and putting things together of my own future sandbox game. However, I'm holding the spot here because I know I am still needed. Until I have the feelings things will run smoothly here without me having rights, I will remain a bureaucrat. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 19:19, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
*Ilan, I thought of this last year and consulted you about this. The '''GTA Wiki Photo Patrollers'''. Remember, Patrollers and '''trusted editors'''? - --'''[[User:Tony_1998|Tony1998]]''' '''([[User talk:Tony_1998|Talk]]''' * '''[[Special:Contributions/Tony_1998|Contribs]])'''-- 19:32, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Well, my friend, it has been really, really great, to have you as an admin here. You have been one of the best admins here, it will be a shame to see you go. All the best, Monk ;) PS It's still nice to have you around :) [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 19:22, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
**Yeah, it was one of my earliest ideas. But now Istu brought it back. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 20:02, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Ahh, this makes me a little sad, but I can understand why you're leaving. You have your whole life ahead of you, and like you said, edting information about a video game isn't a good way to spend it, create art! You've told me some about that video game idea you had, so stick with it man! It's been great having you as an editor here Andre, you'll do well at what you put your mind to. [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 23:21, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
*As much I would wish for this to happen, it would be kinda useless. The Patrollers don't have the power to edit or to delete images. So only admins can be part of this group, but I don't know if most of them will have time to do it.<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black">[[User:Dodo8|Dodo8]]</span> [[User talk:Dodo8|<sup>''<span style="color:#FF6600; font-family:Cooper Black>Talk</span>''</sup>]]
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*I'm not surprised anymore, because most of the staff are resigning, and I feel it will be me soon. I've lost interest, and I've done enough for the wiki. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 02:44, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
**Yep, that's the problem, and why I afraid it won't work. -- '''[[User:Ilan xd|ILan]] (<small>[[User talk:Ilan xd|XD]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|Edits]] &bull; [[w:c:rockstargames|Home]] </small>)''' 20:02, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Its natural that so many people here are losing interest in GTA, after two years I'm actually surprised that we lasted that long. I will probably gonna need to resign at some point in the near future too, thanks to personal problems, hell, I'm already WAY less active then I used to be. Anyway, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish, dude. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 03:22, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
**Agree with Dodo and Ilan, Admins won't be there all the time --[[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 20:06, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Ever since people are leaning towards next-gen, last-gen has been left to rot since Rockstar Games now focuses on future updates exclusive to next-gen. A shame to see you go, dude, but you've been really awesome in the end. I'm still into GTA, but not by much as I usually focus on edits on a regular basis. And no, I don't have any desire of being an admin for it, as it can only add more weight down my shoulders and will become swamped as a result of keeping the pages from future attacks by trouble-making users. All in all, best of luck on the outside world. [[File:JohnSignature.jpg|200px|link=User talk:JohnnyD-the-VGNerd]] 04:03, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
*Abandon project then? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 20:12, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Good luck and see you around :) [[User:DocVinewood|DocVinewood]] ([[User talk:DocVinewood|talk]]) 11:48, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
**@Instu: NO [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 20:24, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
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*Sad to see you go. Best of luck and all the best. Sad to see others on the staff mentioning that they might resign too. I think once you lose interest in something whether it will be editing on here or on Wikia in general, then it is hard to get that interest back. I have tried numerous times to get back into editing, but after a few days I get bored and real life takes over as it should and I feel I don't have the time for it anymore. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 00:44, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
*To avoid mass clutter, I think any image that doesn't get used within 24 hours of its upload should be removed. Then we can keep track of what's coming through. [[User:JBanton|JBanton]] ([[User talk:JBanton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JBanton|Contribs]]) 10:04, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
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*It's sad to see you go. But what else can we do? It's okay considering that not everything is being on the wiki all the time. Sooner or later, our lifes takes form, and it means focusing on other important things and sucess, No?. Anyway. Take care, man and good luck. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 15:52, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
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==GTA Wiki To-Do List==
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'''''Closed as ''successful'' by '''''[[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 10:55, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
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==Featured Images==
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Hey! So I was looking around the highly-thought-through, sophisticated Saints Row Wiki (along with the for now-anonymous boring-as-hell user), and I saw a really useful article (many in fact), a 'To Do list'. Now, I'm aware we do/did have a to do list, but in honesty, it hasn't been updated in donkey's years, so, I was thinking we could revamp it. Of course, only staff can edit and add to it (unless, of course, you prefer not, and anyone) (as long as all types of staff can edit it permanently). I'd keep on top of it, associating it with projects put forward here would be great, and should be mandatory tbh.
Closed as <font color=green>Successful</font> - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 12:41, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
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Benefits? Well, many in fact, sometimes, things need to be addressed, and quite a few times I've been stumbled on what to do next (despite the fact I have my own 'mini to do list'), so this would help both users and staff.
   
Hi guys. Basically, I think that we should take down the Featured Images section of the main page. I think this because I believe that it looks messy, boring and frankly, I never notice it. So yeah, I think it should be taken down. [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|VaultBoy Tom]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/LS11sVaultBoy|Edits]]) 16:55, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Tell me what you think, yes, or no? [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 08:36, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
===Votes===
 
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:09, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes - [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Yes - [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 13:40, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*'''Could Be''' - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*'''Yes '''- [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''YES''' - <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''HELL YES - [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes with a cherry on top, glazed with chocolate and caramel --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>(</small>'''<small>[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]</small>''' - '''<small>[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]</small>''' - '''<small>[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')'''</small>'''-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)'''
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]]­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:MythHunter 007|Myth]][[User_talk:MythHunter_007|Hunter]] [[Special:Contributions/MythHunter_007|007]] 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Yes''' - [[User:LS11sVaultBoy|LS11sVaultBoy]] ([[User talk:LS11sVaultBoy|Talk]]) 20:01, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
 
===Comments===
 
===Comments===
*Yeah, maybe change it to the latest screenshots of GTA V? [[User:Instulent|Instulent]] ([[User talk:Instulent|talk]]) 18:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*Would be a good idea. There are a number of mission pages which definitely need a lot of work, and delegating tasks would be beneficial in the long run. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
**Agree [[User:Kingrhem|<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem</font>]] ([[User talk:Kingrhem|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingrhem|Edits]]) 18:25, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
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*Agree with Sam. [[User:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Georgia"><span style="color:#FFFF00">M</span><span style="color:#00FF00">C</span></font>]] [[User talk:MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Courier"><span style="color:#DBA901">My</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Co</span><span style="color:#FF0000">mp</span><span style="color:#DF01D7">ut</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">er</span></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarcusCheeKJ|<font face="Monoface"><span style="color:#848484">Master</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Of</span> <span style="color:#FF8000">Ceremonies</span></font>]] 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*Latest screenshots sounds good. [[User:Sasquatch101|Sasquatch101]] ([[User talk:Sasquatch101|talk]]) 04:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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**Brilliant! So, I've created a prototype, [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monkeypolice188/Experiments/GTA_Wiki:To-Do_List here], which, what I think works well, has subcategories, and furthermore, subheadings, to categorize the work into the type of work (e.g. vehicles, locations, missions, etc), and then distinguish (if applicable) what game the project or work focuses on, which are separated by headings. Took literally 5 minutes. See what you think :P [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 11:10, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
*I agree with the idea, and Instu's idea is good too, but I think the purpose of that particular section is showing "good quality" images, I think that's the only reason for it being placed there. - [[User:Mikey Klebbitz|Mikey Klebbitz]] ([[User talk:Mikey Klebbitz|talk]]) 10:34, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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***Looks good Monk. Hopefully we'll get more support. <font size="5" face="Old English Text MT"><b>[[User:SJWalker|Sam]]</b></font> [[User talk:SJWalker|<font face="Old English Text MT"><sup>Talk</sup></font>]] 12:29, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Good idea. One thing I would like to add is that the to do list page should bee divided into sections like Missions, Locations etc. This will make it easy for editors to find the page they can add more info about.[[User:Myth hunter|Myth]]([[User Talk:Myth hunter|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Myth_hunter|Stalk]]) 14:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Excellent idea! I think we can get a lot done here, and do it efficently with other people picking up different tasks. I think it would make a much more "united" community here. [[User:Mortsnarg|Mortsnarg]] ([[User talk:Mortsnarg|talk]]) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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**I have plenty to add if this goes through sucessful :P If it does, I'll create the articles, and I will let users (along with myself) add anything they think should be listed as a project or as something we need to finish. [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 15:57, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Sounds good. It would be beneficial for those pages that aren't checked for a long time. Agreed with that idea. <span style="background-color:#00008B; border:4px ridge black; color:#F8F8FF; font-family:system;">[[File:Body Armor Android.png|20px]] [[User:Camilo Flores|'''SWAT Cam F''']] [[File:Torpedo Android.png|20px]]</span> <span>[[File:Detonator Android.png|20px|link=User talk:Camilo Flores|Dispatch]]</span> <span style="background-color:#000000;">[[File:Crate Android.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Camilo Flores|Data Files]]</span> 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Have you seen the pages made before the community split? A.K.A everything relating to The Ballad of Gay Tony, and everything that came before it. Great idea. [[User:Leon Davis|Leo68]] ([[User talk:Leon Davis|talk]]) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*A wonderful idea myself I would say! Also, a good way to get the community to work together more! --'''[[User:Tony 1998|Tony42898]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Tony 1998|Talker]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[User blog:Tony 1998|Blogger]]'''</small> - <small>'''[[Special:Contributions/Tony 1998|Stalker]]''')</small>-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Great idea. If we also could incorporate this to-do-list to the message that appears to every single new user every time they do their first edit it would also help a lot. [[User:558050|<span style="color:#1589FF">'''DLVIII'''</span>]] [[User talk:558050|<span style="color:#00008b">Talk</span>]] 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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**I was going to point that out lol. That'd be great, make it a big thing here, make it viewable from everywhere on the wiki, we need to make this big, and when somet's big, it needs to be fancy, great quality, and full of endless projects and work for anyone to contribute; keeps the edit counts up, keeps the work going, and best of all, keeps the wiki expanding :P [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 21:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*This should not even be a question :p I think this is an excellent idea since it will allow the wiki to be a bit more organized. A huge problem - and one of people's major complaints about the wiki - is that there is a lot of speculative/unsourced content which lowers the wiki's overall credibility. Speculation is being removed when it's spotted but there are still pages left to correct. I believe that a to-do list, such as adding references to anything even remotely questionable, would be a good start, and, as it was already said, it would get the community to help out more. [[File:v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User:WildBrick142|My User page...]]<span class="helpcursor">[[File:V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=User talk:WildBrick142|Whats up?]]</span>[[File:V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg|30px|link=Special:Contributions/WildBrick142|I did NOTHING!]]­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
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*Same as Sam and Hunter.-[[User:MythHunter 007|Myth]][[User_talk:MythHunter_007|Hunter]] [[Special:Contributions/MythHunter_007|007]] 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
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*Impatience* Could we get this closed as successful so I can start the project? Or am I granted permission to start it without it being closed as successful? (Seen as it's very likely to go through as yes anyway).  [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-2.png|55px|link=User:Monkeypolice188|Monkeypolice188's Userpage]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-4.png|37px|link=User talk:Monkeypolice188|Talk to me!]] &bull; [[File:Monkeypolice188-Signature-3.png|37px|link=Special:Contributions/Monkeypolice188|Contributions]] 19:47, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:06, February 8, 2016

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Merge CompromiseEdit

Okay, this discussion again. I noticed a widespread split of several pages. Now, I can go off on one and say "It wasn't authorized" "This is a bad idea" blah, blah, blah. No, I do not want to deal with more fall out on this case. So, some vehicles, from what I've seen, have been unncessarily split. So I propose;

  • Keep Kuruma (Armored) as part of the variants on the Kuruma page.
  • Have a page for Baller LE, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Baller LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter V12, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Schafter LWB, with armored in the variants section.
  • Have a page for Cognoscenti 55, with armored in the variants section.
  • Keep Cognoscenti (Armored) as part of the variants on the Cognoscenti page.

These cars (upgraded/changed Schafter, Baller & Cog) do have different design and some have different performances, but having armor doesn't warrant its own page.

The Buffalo S & Oracle XS have major differences so I can put my personal feelings to one side on this matter. Insurgent/9F/Rancher/Sentinel/Granger etc. can stay separate, because I know they're variants, but they have different performance, design and whatever else, so if it keeps the calm here, good, and if the Schafter is renamed, or the Baller or Cavalacade, then we'll split like we've done in the past. I just don't think there should be separate pages, jut because it has armor on it. The exception being Duke O'Death, because it has a different name, it's not just Dukes (Armored). Also, to close the matter on the Roosevelt Valor, if it comes out and has different performance, design and naming, that it should have its own page.

I also reccomend that we can add the note below to the MoS;

Vehicles variants that have significant changes in performance, design and naming, such as second generation vehicles, should be made as two separate pages.

I'm hoping that this issue can finally be resolved after all the issues in the last year or so surrounding it. If there's any other vehicles that have minor differences you feel need to be merged besides those listed above, or if you have any questions, comments or concerns, please leave it below. Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • So, you want to keep the armored variants into their respective pages? Well, I was thinking on that. Also, I noticed both the Rebel and the Sanchez are listed to split, which I found it quite odd, as both has slight changes (apart of the almost-impossible Buzzard, which was dropped). As for the MoS note, well, most second gen cars has the same names as the original cars (or 1st gen in that case), so that would be confusing for the Schafter and the Baller. For me, I would agree in your point, but I don't have control of the project. --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 03:41, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • The beater version of the Rebel is called Rusty Rebel on the website...different name = different page. Exact same case with the Sanchez. Monk Talk 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • Can't see why the Rebel and Sanchez are split besides beater and livery changes, respectively. As for the MoS, if it's a vehicle like the Buffalo (which has S) or Oracle (XS), then it falls under the rule. Schafters, Cavalcades and Ballers, not yet, not unless R* change the name. Leo68 (talk) 03:49, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
  • honestly Wilds idea of splitting EVERYTHING with differing names still attracts me more than the idea of merging armored ones. Why? Well, because now you're making exceptions. And exceptions = no consistency. If we just stick to the rule of 'different nsme = different page', there'll be absolutely no exceptions and it will be consistent. The way its going is fine to me. Monk Talk 07:27, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes but the most of these vehicles are split because they have different design and or performance. The armored vehicles have no differences in design or performance. They only have an altered name, so we have 8 pages of armored vehicles with identical design and performance to their stock vehicles. The design and performance difference is why pages were split in the first place. Leo68 (talk) 08:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
    • Actually the performances between the armored versions differs, especially the new Cogs, Schafters, Ballers. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 15:06, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - That Ferrari Guy (Patroller)Edit

Closed as successful by Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

That Ferrari "Guy"'s probation is pretty much up so it's time for everyone to vote as to whether they think he has passed. Remember, only admins and bureaucrats can vote, patrollers and normal users may leave comments.

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • I think you've done really well in your second probation period. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 19:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • I believe that you have done an excellent job as a Patroller. I am quite confident that you will pass your probation. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 19:26, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • He did extremely well. Opened a little too early but tomorrow he won't be online till later (as far as I hear). Well done bud. Monk Talk 19:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • I haven't been around long enough to notice Guy's work, but he worked well last time around, and the votes above tell me he's done just as well. Closed as successful. Leo68 (talk) 02:51, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - TAlim 1994 (Patroller)Edit

Outcome: PASS

VotesEdit

(Admins and Bureaucrats only)

  • Yes - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Sam Talk 12:44, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - Monk Talk 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes - V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 16:34, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

(Everyone)

  • I have decided to take the liberty of setting up my own probation expiry vote to save other Staff the trouble. Please vote when you are able to. Thank you. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 10:51, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You've done very well during your probation and it would be good for you to continue. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You made a good progress and you're efficient as a patroller. I say "yes". --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • You did great. Monk Talk 16:16, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Vehicle Variants System 2.0Edit

Okay guys, you're probably going to shoot me for this, but I have a new idea. I suggested the idea (albeit hesitantly considering the outcome and affect it'd have on the Staff here) in Chat one evening with Leo, who agreed it was a fantastic idea. He agreed in a good manner and suggested I sent it to the Community Noticeboard to propose it. So, Leo, if you disagree now, I'm gonna kill you :P

The idea is, well, pretty simple really. Instead of shoving all the Variants into the same article of the main vehicle, create a sub-page "[Vehicle Name]/Variants" and list them all in there. I really think this makes it A LOT tidier. I have started my first example, here. I did the Granger. On the Granger article, at the variants section, you'll notice a "Main" template, which will link you to the Variants sub-page which lists all the emergency counterparts. For navigational purposes, the 4 variants are listed at the top, the links send you to the parts of the page (try it out, "Press me!" :P).

Now, I separated the pages with a "----" bar to make it clearer where each vehicle ends. I really like this system, and I'm confident it would work for many vehicles (only ones I'm concerned about are where we draw the line as what counts as a variant (example, Phantom and Rubble?), as well as when a vehicle crosses the Universe boundary but doesn't count as a variant in one of the Universes.

So, please, this is not a vote, as for now, I'm just letting you comment to see what you think. Again, this is only an alpha (not even beta) project, I want to see what you think.

Oh, one more thing, this is not a place to start an argument. If we start arguing in an uncivil manner, I'll simply close it and delete the project. Just tell me what you think, and if I get good reception, maybe I'll turn it into a vote.

Tar lads. Monk Talk 12:02, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • I think it is a good idea. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 12:25, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
  • From what I see on the Granger examples, that would mean that pages like "Park Ranger", "FIB Granger", "Lifeguard SUV", etc. would no longer exist and be instead merged into "Granger/Variants" page. Correct? If so, no, never. They are separated for a reason, and it's pretty obvious a specific vehicle is a variant anyway - a mention such as "Main Article: [vehicle]" and a very short paragraph would be enough. It's good as it is now, and things like that are usually very volatile as evidenced from past votes/ideas. IMHO it would be a better idea to split everything, instead of having a hacky system of vehicle subsections like Kuruma (Armored), Insurgent Pick-Up, Rusty Rebel etc. have now - that would save the time and confusion of making and reading these pages - but the last time we agreed that only select vehicles would end up like the examples I mentioned so that would bring an end to these sort of ideas, and arguments resulting from them, which is why it'd be better to leave it as it is. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 12:55, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yeah I agree. I was pretty hesitant myself when writing this and hence why i've only decided to right this more than a month after he suggested I put it forward. Again, it's just an idea and not something I'm insisting should be done. I only insist when I'm fully confident :P Monk Talk 14:23, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
  • Your proposal is intriguing, but I must admit that it sounds like a monumental change, and not one which should be implemented on a whim. As "Wildbrick142" has said, it will not be a good idea to merge all the pages of different variants of vehicles that have substantially different stock performance specifications. Instead I would suggest creating a "Variants" heading on the page of the base vehicle, creating a sub-heading for each variant of the vehicle, adding a "Main" template that links to the vehicle page for that variant, and inserting a concise description on how the variant differs from the base vehicle. Also, a "Disambiglink" template should be placed at the start of the page of each variant, stating something along the lines of "For the vehicle that the [Variant Name] is based on, see [Base Vehicle Name]". TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 07:09, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Toning Down TriviaEdit

Alright, well it's been discussed in the past, so to make it short: let's take it easy on the trivia and reserve it for stuff we have not seen. Pages, such as the Heavy Revolver for example (which I have fixed since), had information that was best well fit in the derscription section. Other pages contain trivia that was already mentioned, too obvious, speculative (most of the time), or in some cases, it was not even worth mentioning. I just want to get the community a heads-up to tone down the trivia and to make sure that the information you found regarding to a specific page is best suited in the description, appearance, etc.

--Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 18:21, January 18, 2016 (UTC) 

CommentsEdit

  • Agreed. Some of the GTA IV mission pages are the worst offenders for "trivia" I've seen. I'm all for Trivia sections but I personally think a section with one or two relevant facts is better than 20 irrelevant facts. Sam Talk 19:01, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Sounds good. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 19:37, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • I completely agree that the trivia should be reserved for important and relevant facts regarding the article it refers to, but I should also point out that what one user regards as "important" might not be regarded as such by another, which may lead to potentially ugly disputes. Perhaps general guidelines for what should and should not be added to the trivia of each category of article (missions, characters, businesses, etc.) should be created to preempt such disputes. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 14:42, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • Here's the official policy on Trivia. Sam Talk 15:30, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

ResignationEdit

I think it's time for me to move on and resign as administrator, as I'm busy IRL to edit here and I've also been losing interest in the GTA series lately. Besides, it's fair for the most active patrollers to leave an open admin spot so one of them can be promoted. I'm not leaving the wiki, I will still edit here, but just not as often. Good luck everybody, and see you around :) DocVinewood (talk) 10:59, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sheesh. Sorry to hear that my friend. You've been great here man. I've always looked up to you as a great admin. Have a great New Year and enjoy your life :) take care buddy. Monk Talk 11:15, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to see you go Doc but I can fully understand why. Look after yourself and hopefully you'll be back soon. Happy New Year. Sam Talk 14:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for you comments, and happy New Year to you as well :) DocVinewood (talk) 16:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC) 
Sorry to see you go Doc. You've been great here and we really are thankful for the thousands of spectacular images you've added here. I also feel your case, as I myself am not as active as before and am losing interest in GTA as well, mostly because I'm focusing on other things in life and my future game and don't have much time for video games in general now. As I always said they're better things in life than video games. The only reason I'm not resigning is because I'm afraid to leave the wiki and all sorts of shit start up here such as vandals and what not. Anyways, I hope you find what you're looking for in life and have a happy new year.Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:42, December 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
I'm sorry to hear this Doc, but I understand. Happy New Year for you and your family ! General9913 (talk) 21:07, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

(Reset indent) It's a shame to see you go, Doc. I understand your point about being busy, but hey, you made it very well here, and that matters. Anyway, have a great one over there :D --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 03:32, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

It's a shame the year ends with another resignation. Can't say I'm not disappointed, Doc, you've done great things here, but I can understand your reasoning. Good luck. Leo68 (talk) 06:05, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

It is sad to see you go. You have been a great admin. It was nice having you around here. Myth(Please leave your threats here/Wanna Stalk?) 21:28, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Probation Expiry - Myth hunter (Patroller)Edit

Closed as successful by Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

(Admins and Bureaucrats only)

  • Yes - Monk Talk 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Sam Talk 15:56, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:24, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Yes - DocVinewood (talk) 19:46, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes - Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

(Everyone)

  • At first his edits were okay, then they dropped a bit, but he's managed to pick it up lately, and he did tell me his internet was causing issues in logging in, etc, so we can't exactly blame some of his inactivity, He'll fair well as a Patroller and makes good contributions, as well as reinforces the policies and always informs me about vandals to block. He's very useful in chat too, blocked many sockpuppets lately. He's a great Patroller, and I'm sure if the internet issues are fixed, he'll become active even more. Good luck Myth :) Monk Talk 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Though I've been absent and a lot less active recently sadly, I know Myth has improved a lot since his first time. He deserves the position without a doubt. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:43, December 2, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Really did improve since the last probabtion expiry. You have my yes in spirit. :) --Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 19:45, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Activity was the only issue before, and that has been fixed. With my vote as the sixth yes, I am closing it as successful. Congratulations, Myth hunter. Leo68 (talk) 21:58, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Mission Numbers in InfoboxesEdit

Closed as Unsuccessful by Monkeypolice188.

So earlier I was thinking we could have Mission Numbers in the infoboxes of missions, because the "this is the first mission given to [a] by [b]" can be slightly misleading or misinterpreted at first. This wouldn't be that hard and I can really only see it following how either the GTASeriesVideos name them, OR the order they ard listed on the main "Missiins in [gams]" article. Essentially, it makes navigation easier, makes identifying any referencs to mission numbers outside GTA Wiki easier to understand, and gives missions a simpler ordering system.

What do you think? Monk Talk 09:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • If you're adding mission numbers, then you're establishing a mission sequence, is it that what you mean? I didn't get your point.Because if it is, only thing I can say is that it's a sandbox game, players can choose whatever sequence they want. I see the "unlocked by" and "unlocks" thing working pretty well on infoboxes, so there's no need for mission numbers yet. Staying neutral untill further explanations. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 12:10, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
    • Well, that is what I mean, but there is evidently some kind of sequence, somehow, because how are experienced Youtubers numbering them? And there's clearly an order, Rockstar ordering missions in the "Replay Mission" feature. It'd be really useful, but now you mention the "Unlocked by" and "Unlocks", I think I might close this, as that's good enough tbh. Monk Talk 12:17, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
I've not seen so many videos walkthroughs in YT other than the ones that I used to get some mission screenshots, but I guess they just pick one of the available missions and start a video for it. That's not a sequence, or at least it should not be followed. I agree about using the sequence from the "Replay Mission" in Missions in GTA V though. Do not close the discussion yet, let's just wait for other users to vote. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 12:47, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I staying neutral on this one. On one hand I agree that a number is better than "This is the first mission (a) gave to (b)". But the only problem is that Their is not any exact order in which the missions are played. If this request is successful, I would support to use the same order as on the "Mission in (game)" page. Myth(Please leave your threats here/Wanna Stalk?) 12:59, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I don't see the point in this. Most missions have no specific order so what could be Mission #45 for someone would be #46 or #47, etc. , for someone else. We have navboxes and unlocked by/after already as well, and they do the job fine. What we could do is tweak the mission giver line to feature an "Expand" button that shows all missions available from the boss or rewrite all headings to make them less confusing while retaining the information. Following GTASeriesVideos in regards to mission numbering is exactly the same as following the average GTAO Youtuber: speculation. The only factual mission numbering is from R* themselves.

    btw, mission sequence in GTA V's replay menu is not reliable. Many missions can be placed differently, depending on when you do them - Chop for example can be done before Complications or after Complications, and it will be placed on the list whenever you do them. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 13:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Since the only thing I agreed was the Replay Mission sequence, and it's not reliable, I'm changing to "No". In addition, I see no problem to mention "this is the [first, second, third, fourth and so on] mission to [protagonist] by [mission giver]", that's the only sequence we actually have. We can improve the "unlocked by"/"unlocks" by adding a feature used at some mission articles in GTA SA, such as Sweet's Girl (see the bottom of the page), particularly for mission series (The Truth (mission series) for example). Thoughts?. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 14:21, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
    • Okay okay...I didn't realise that the missions were not in the same order for everyone, as I didn't realise that depending on what mission you do first, it effects the order numbers. Sorry... Monk Talk 14:50, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Character Manual of Style changeEdit

Closed as successful by TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)


Good day. After a discussion with "Thegtaseeker96" regarding the Manual of Style for characters, I have decided to propose a change to it to place the gallery before the trivia, as apparently all other Manuals of Style have the format as such, with the one for characters being the only one with the trivia before the gallery. Please vote and discuss this.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 19:34, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • Trivia usually is last (many wikis are laid out like this), and it looks a lot neater, so I agree with this change. Manual of Style for Missions would need a change, too, since that one also says that gallery is last. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 21:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
    • This should also be applied to the MoS for neighborhoods and weapons. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 23:23, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • Needless to say. That's what I've been doing since I started editing here. Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 23:14, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sure. It was odd to have the Trivia before gallery, which is contrary to the actual one. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 23:21, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
  • I also have been placing the gallery before the trivia on a lot of different articles since I joined the wikia. I don't know why, but placing the gallery at the very botton of the page always looked "ugly" to me. DLVIII Talk 02:12, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • Since I joined the Wiki I've always been placing Trivia sections at the foot of the page, just as a given. With regards to the MoS, it is mainly a guideline I don't think it needs to be followed to the letter as the most important points in a page is the correct information and correctly licenced and named images, but if this change will clear up any grey areas then I'm all for it. Sam Talk 10:23, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • Everyone basically pointed out all my concerns, as an admin. No need to comment anything else :P Monk Talk 16:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • I am closing this proposal as successful, and I will make changes to the Manual of Style for missions and characters. I must admit that I am a slight bit cheesed off about this change (even though I proposed it), as I will now need to return to several character articles that I have created following the (now invalid) Manual of Style for characters, and change the format. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim (talk | contributions) 15:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

ResignationEdit

Hey guys, bad news for some of you and good news for others... Unfortunately I haven't been editing very often here and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable to visit Wikis every day; it doesn't mean that I don't like the GTA Wiki, but that I want to change some things in my life, like, instead of sitting in front of a computer to edit video game articles, I want to do something more, how can I say? Well, I think you guys will understand my reason...

Also, I started to lose my interest in the GTA series after the Heists Update, since I myself am not a multiplayer person and I'm not really playing video games very often recently, so I'm feeling a little egoistical to occupy the admin spot, which should be taken by someone else.

That's all I wanted to say; I will still come here, especially in chat to talk to my colleagues, but no longer as an admin.

Special thanks to my wiki friends: JamalMonkSamLeoAlexHunter558 and U94N. EagleIcon AndreEagle17 PS3 Triangle PS3 Cross PS3 Circle 19:02, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • Andre's point is understandable. I too am starting to lose a little interest in GTA, as I am also trying to focus on my personal goals, education and career, which also involves the planning and putting things together of my own future sandbox game. However, I'm holding the spot here because I know I am still needed. Until I have the feelings things will run smoothly here without me having rights, I will remain a bureaucrat. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 19:19, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
  • Well, my friend, it has been really, really great, to have you as an admin here. You have been one of the best admins here, it will be a shame to see you go. All the best, Monk ;) PS It's still nice to have you around :) Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 19:22, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • Ahh, this makes me a little sad, but I can understand why you're leaving. You have your whole life ahead of you, and like you said, edting information about a video game isn't a good way to spend it, create art! You've told me some about that video game idea you had, so stick with it man! It's been great having you as an editor here Andre, you'll do well at what you put your mind to. Mortsnarg (talk) 23:21, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not surprised anymore, because most of the staff are resigning, and I feel it will be me soon. I've lost interest, and I've done enough for the wiki. Leo68 (talk) 02:44, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Its natural that so many people here are losing interest in GTA, after two years I'm actually surprised that we lasted that long. I will probably gonna need to resign at some point in the near future too, thanks to personal problems, hell, I'm already WAY less active then I used to be. Anyway, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish, dude. DLVIII Talk 03:22, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Ever since people are leaning towards next-gen, last-gen has been left to rot since Rockstar Games now focuses on future updates exclusive to next-gen. A shame to see you go, dude, but you've been really awesome in the end. I'm still into GTA, but not by much as I usually focus on edits on a regular basis. And no, I don't have any desire of being an admin for it, as it can only add more weight down my shoulders and will become swamped as a result of keeping the pages from future attacks by trouble-making users. All in all, best of luck on the outside world. JohnSignature 04:03, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Good luck and see you around :) DocVinewood (talk) 11:48, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sad to see you go. Best of luck and all the best. Sad to see others on the staff mentioning that they might resign too. I think once you lose interest in something whether it will be editing on here or on Wikia in general, then it is hard to get that interest back. I have tried numerous times to get back into editing, but after a few days I get bored and real life takes over as it should and I feel I don't have the time for it anymore. Messi1983 (talk) 00:44, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • It's sad to see you go. But what else can we do? It's okay considering that not everything is being on the wiki all the time. Sooner or later, our lifes takes form, and it means focusing on other important things and sucess, No?. Anyway. Take care, man and good luck. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 15:52, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

GTA Wiki To-Do ListEdit

Closed as successful by LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 10:55, October 27, 2015 (UTC)


Hey! So I was looking around the highly-thought-through, sophisticated Saints Row Wiki (along with the for now-anonymous boring-as-hell user), and I saw a really useful article (many in fact), a 'To Do list'. Now, I'm aware we do/did have a to do list, but in honesty, it hasn't been updated in donkey's years, so, I was thinking we could revamp it. Of course, only staff can edit and add to it (unless, of course, you prefer not, and anyone) (as long as all types of staff can edit it permanently). I'd keep on top of it, associating it with projects put forward here would be great, and should be mandatory tbh. Benefits? Well, many in fact, sometimes, things need to be addressed, and quite a few times I've been stumbled on what to do next (despite the fact I have my own 'mini to do list'), so this would help both users and staff.

Tell me what you think, yes, or no? Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 08:36, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

VotesEdit

CommentsEdit

  • Would be a good idea. There are a number of mission pages which definitely need a lot of work, and delegating tasks would be beneficial in the long run. Sam Talk 09:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree with Sam. MC My Computer Master Of Ceremonies 10:02, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • Brilliant! So, I've created a prototype, here, which, what I think works well, has subcategories, and furthermore, subheadings, to categorize the work into the type of work (e.g. vehicles, locations, missions, etc), and then distinguish (if applicable) what game the project or work focuses on, which are separated by headings. Took literally 5 minutes. See what you think :P Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 11:10, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • Looks good Monk. Hopefully we'll get more support. Sam Talk 12:29, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Good idea. One thing I would like to add is that the to do list page should bee divided into sections like Missions, Locations etc. This will make it easy for editors to find the page they can add more info about.Myth(Talk/Stalk) 14:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Excellent idea! I think we can get a lot done here, and do it efficently with other people picking up different tasks. I think it would make a much more "united" community here. Mortsnarg (talk) 15:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • I have plenty to add if this goes through sucessful :P If it does, I'll create the articles, and I will let users (along with myself) add anything they think should be listed as a project or as something we need to finish. Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 15:57, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sounds good. It would be beneficial for those pages that aren't checked for a long time. Agreed with that idea. Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 16:06, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Have you seen the pages made before the community split? A.K.A everything relating to The Ballad of Gay Tony, and everything that came before it. Great idea. Leo68 (talk) 19:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • A wonderful idea myself I would say! Also, a good way to get the community to work together more! --Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 20:03, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Great idea. If we also could incorporate this to-do-list to the message that appears to every single new user every time they do their first edit it would also help a lot. DLVIII Talk 20:31, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • I was going to point that out lol. That'd be great, make it a big thing here, make it viewable from everywhere on the wiki, we need to make this big, and when somet's big, it needs to be fancy, great quality, and full of endless projects and work for anyone to contribute; keeps the edit counts up, keeps the work going, and best of all, keeps the wiki expanding :P Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 21:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • This should not even be a question :p I think this is an excellent idea since it will allow the wiki to be a bit more organized. A huge problem - and one of people's major complaints about the wiki - is that there is a lot of speculative/unsourced content which lowers the wiki's overall credibility. Speculation is being removed when it's spotted but there are still pages left to correct. I believe that a to-do list, such as adding references to anything even remotely questionable, would be a good start, and, as it was already said, it would get the community to help out more. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini­ 21:04, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Same as Sam and Hunter.-MythHunter 007 03:02, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
  • Impatience* Could we get this closed as successful so I can start the project? Or am I granted permission to start it without it being closed as successful? (Seen as it's very likely to go through as yes anyway).  Monkeypolice188-Signature-2Monkeypolice188-Signature-4Monkeypolice188-Signature-3 19:47, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

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