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Yellow Jack Inn bartender's husband talks Russian when Trevor knocked his opponent out! He says "Я победил!" ("I won!") It's Josef himself ViperI (talk) 09:12, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Status = Determinant

Why Joe and Josef are considered Determinant not Deceased:
The entire Civil Border Patrol series of Strangers and Freaks missions is completely optional. The player determines whether they even take place. It is possible to finish the story line and achieve 100% Completion in GTA V by picking one of the optional endings which render this series of missions invisible to the player. Therefore their deaths are not required so they must be listed as determinant. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:07, May 10, 2017 (UTC)