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OH I cant wait for this dlc to come out i liked the mafia prohibition the 1920s good stuff Owen1983 (talk) 19:40, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Same here, love the historical references on this too! (Henriquedematos (talk) 19:59, February 11, 2014 (UTC))

Cadillac V-16?

I looked at the Cadillac V-16 and it doesn't mach 1 the V-16 is much bigger and was a rag top tourer op to 1937 and the Albany Roosevelt is a late 20s early 3os box body fordor, I did some research and it looks more like A falconer or Schubert AB which were cars from the mafia series so its based on the Chevrolet 6 or Studebaker dictator beside Al Capone didn't drive a v-16  look here

How am I suposed to get this? 

So I can only buy it on valentines day, and it cost $750,000! How am I suposed to make that much money In one day??? are you guys sure about the extreme cost? It should be really cheep so everyone can own one! Zombo-tech (talk) 15:47, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

I can see myself cruising in this.... Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:17, February 14, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Relax, it will be avalible for purchase for the rest of the month. (Henriquedematos (talk) 03:35, February 14, 2014 (UTC))

You have 15 days, just replay Coveted all day on hard. $18000 cash for completion. DemonicWaffle (talk) 04:52, February 14, 2014 (UTC)DemonicWaffle

Engine close up?

somebody take a picture of the engine and add it here,please,i don't know how to open the hood

Location picture

The milton road location picture is very unhelpful by not having the map on the corner of the screen. GMRE (talk) 17:40, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

In fact it's hard to find it on the movielot, it took me ages to find it, but it spawns where the mission The Ballad of Rocco takes place. EagleIcon AndreEagle17 PS3 Triangle PS3 Cross PS3 Circle 18:37, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
I've seen it at the Milton road garage. It just doesn't spawn every time. Sometimes there's a few guys there, talking. GMRE (talk) 12:48, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

Stock version unobtainable in enhanced version?

It always spawns with out spare wheels, with out the trunk and with custom wheels. It's possible to give it stock wheels at a mod shop, but the trunk and spare wheels are unobtainable and PS3/Xbox360 exclusive. Can someone confirm this? GMRE (talk) 12:48, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

I can confirm. I just found this in singleplayer mode (Xbox One version) at the movie studio. It's missing the spare wheels and trunk. Taking it to Los Santos Customs does not present the choice of adding them, sadly. Maybe there's a rare chance of it spawning with these attachments. I'll try to look into it some more. ShootingStarAJM (talk) 21:14, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

How can you get this car after March 2014, because i'm collecting classic cars on GTA V--Tayd0gta (talk) 02:24, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Performance Stats Defined

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Here's the source. Got the screenshot from youtube. See here Thegtaseeker96 (talk) 00:34, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Roosevelt Valor

So if this vehicle does get officially added, even though it can already be spawned in through trainers on PS4, will it be it's own page? Or will it be a sub-category on this page?

Kylerfox10 (talk) 14:11, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Just because it has a new name and an altered design, doesn't mean it has to have its A) own page or B) own infobox/section. It'll go in the Variants section. It will NOT have its own infobox or article. -Monk Talk 14:45, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Why not? I am fine with not giving an infobox to vehicles that re-use the name (DLC or not, I don't care. Re-use the name and you're not getting an infobox). But if it clearly has a different name then it should deserve it's own page, or at least it's own infobox on the page because, you know, they're meant to be separate from each other. At least that's the original compromise for not keeping separate pages while also giving it a worthy enough mention. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 18:09, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Something like the "Deluxe" variants of the Swift and Luxor? Well I don't think so, since the Roosevelt Valor would be the successor or the original Roosevelt (and it would be forever). However, it's essentially "a modern-looking Roosevelt" or a "new Roosevelt". I think it would work like the Valkyries, the Insurgents, the Velums, etc. Oh well, I dunno. --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 18:42, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
I wish, but people seem to start WWIII when it comes to making new pages for vehicles. It would work like the Insurgent and Velum; an infobox for the differently designed vehicle, which is exactly what I want since none of us can come into an agreement. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 19:47, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Honestly, I agree with Cam and Monk.
Just because it has a new 'name' (hardly), and minor changes to its design, doesn't mean it needs a new page nor a separate infobox. If you're gonna follow your spec, Wild, then why wasn't Valkyrie MOD.0 in a new page, huh? It has an altered design, a new name (hardly, again), and was added in an update. Honestly, I thought we'd stopped the 'new oage for new variant' thing. It's stupid. All it needs is a tiny description under the 'Variants' heading and an image, just like the Valkyrie MOD.0 in the Valkyrie article. The stock car racing variants of their respective standard counterparts were recently changed, from separate-infobox to variant section-only, because an altered design (hardly, just a livery), a new name (hardly) and a hardly-differeny performance doesn't qualify for a new infobox; the infobox would display almost the exact same information. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 19:25, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Maybe because a few people get stressed over the idea of a similarly looking vehicle having it's own page that I decided to keep it in Valkyrie's page to avoid causing the wiki to have a nuclear meltdown. And if that sort of idea "is stupid" and just "needs a tiny description" under a Variants section then yeah, fine, who needs information on a wiki anyway? About the stock cars, yes, almost exact same information. The key word here being almost. If the information would be the very exact same then I could agree there's no need for an infobox. But since there are differences, it does deserve it's own infobox (inb4 past gta's counter-argument, because it's relevant and it's name the same, unlike the "variants". and yeah, past gta's) V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 19:47, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
You make good points I suppose. I'm just trying to go inline with the other articles now since everyone argues when it comes to new vehicles and variants. If every article was applied to the 'new name new article' rule you mentioned, I'd support and agree with it, as at least it would be consistent, but everytime it's brought up everyone gets mad, so now everything's a mess and inconsistent, and we cant settle with a single rule as the MOS cant be updates cos of the arguments which don't get us anywhere. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 19:56, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
That's exactly why the "variants" have their own sections and infoboxes. Some of us wanted vehicle "variants" to have their separate pages if they're named differently. Some of us wanted vehicle "variants" to be in the page of the "parent model". Since we couldn't come into an agreement and would only cause to fire missiles at ourselves back and forth, the idea of a vehicle "variant" having it's own section, infobox, etc, in the "parent" page was made and used - as a result both sides could keep happy because the vehicle didn't have separate pages and was still kept relevant enough with it's own section and an infobox. This successfully kept everyone happy and actually ended those dumb arguments for the time being.

"New name new article" is the way it should be (otherwise R* would use the same names, no?) which WILL keep things consistent, informative, less confusing (prime examples go to any current-gen exclusive content found on a page which is in last-gen too or even past gta's), and would not be one bit messy, but it's pretty obvious by now that none of us will ever properly agree so such a compromise is necessary. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:15, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Now, I would say that Wild's idea is not "that bad to start a discussion" and it would work properly. The only thing is that the info barely changes from the base vehicle 's pages.
In the case of the Valkyrie MOD.0, the only thing it would change is that: it lacks the front cannon, the locations and the update it was introduced. Everything else are just like "copy-paste" from the Valkyrie page or just a short description saying "it's essentially a Valkyrie without the cannon and etc, etc, etc. In the case of the Deluxe aircraft, both are still separated from their normal counterparts, seeing it was discussed some time ago.
So yeah. From my perspective, both ideas seems to work, but these will have flaws: The idea or merging all would be less work, but it will be a bit messy. The another idea of separating all would be more organized, but it will have... well, I dunno, but I don't see a problem, considering other vehicles were renamed through updates and separated (the Oracles for example). Still don't know who decided that, but it clearly starts discussions like this. --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 20:19, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
That is true, but information is still information. All it takes is rewording it a bit and that'd be perfect. Performance section would always be different (I highly doubt it will re-use a handling line, especially DLC vehicles), all it takes for Design section is rewording a few things to make it look less like "a lazy copy-paste", and the rest of the sections will pretty much always be different. Considereing some vehicles already are split up within the page, there won't be much work necessary to separate those. The end result would be less mess, less confusion, more info, more organization, more credibility, and probably a lot more positive things (the amount of arguing would probably remain the same, though, unless a miracle happens and we will all agree on this :p ). V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:32, January 29, 2016 (UTC)


I agree with that, but as you say, there'd have to be a miracle for people to agree to this. I'm sure Monk will, but if this goes forward there'll be a shit-tonne of arguments and whatnot. Great ideas and explanations but there's no hope anymore. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 20:36, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
tbh, if Monk agrees then we can actually go along with it. People that were against it in the past either left or are barely active, I doubt the rest of the people would actually care about that change. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:38, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well, good luck with that :/ he's really upset IRL at the moment, some pretty bad shit happened to him lately IRL. But if you give him sometime I guess he'll be in a good mood to agree with this. Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 20:47, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

In my case, I would agree. That's it. --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 20:47, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Well then, all we can do is wait. Once he's back we can continue on this topic (or argument, who knows), until then we'll leave things as they are now.V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:53, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
This sounds like a fucking great idea. Might as well split everything if no one can agree to a sensible structure. Can we start this tomorrow? Plus can you list some examples that would be split? :)
  • Banshee 900R from Banshee?
  • All Customs from Stabdards?
  • Stock cars from standards?
  • SVolito from SVolito Carbon?
  • Baller LE and LWB from Baller? - armored from these too?
  • Valor from Roosevelt?
  • Armored from Kuruma?
  • Pickup from Insurgent?
  • 5 seater from Velum?
  • Mod.0 from Valkyrie?

Honestly, I'd prefer them completely separate instead of a new infobox. Completely separate articles, just for consistency of the spec.

Monk Talk 19:04, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Sure. With the examples you have mentioned, the list'll be:
  • 9F > 9F Cabrio
  • Baller > Baller LE > Baller LE LWB > Baller LE (Armored) > Baller LE LWB (Armored)
  • Banshee > Banshee 900R
  • Blista Compact > Go Go Monkey Blista
  • Buccaneer > Buccaneer Custom
  • Buffalo S > Sprunk Buffalo
  • Chino > Chino Custom
  • Cognoscenti > Cognoscenti (Armored)
  • Cognoscenti 55 > Cognoscenti 55 (Armored)
  • Dominator > Pisswasser Dominator
  • Faction > Faction Custom
  • Gauntlet > Redwood Gauntlet
  • Insurgent > Insurgent Pick-Up
  • Jester > Jester (Racecar)
  • Kuruma > Kuruma (Armored)
  • Massacro > Massacro (Racecar)
  • Moonbeam > Moonbeam Custom
  • Primo > Primo Custom
  • Rat-Loader > Rat-Truck
  • Rebel > Rusty Rebel
  • Roosevelt > Roosevelt Valor
  • Sandking > Sandking SWB > Sandking XL
  • Schafter > Schafter V12 > Schafter V12 LWB > Schafter V12 (Armored) > Schafter V12 LWB (Armored)
  • Stallion > Burger Shot Stallion
  • SuperVolito > SuperVolito Carbon
  • Valkyrie > Valkyrie MOD.0
  • Velum > Velum 5-Seater
  • Voodoo > Voodoo Custom
  • Zion > Zion Cabrio
  • (maybe?) Sanchez > Sanchez (Livery)
  • Stretch E > Turreted Limo
Anything that shares the name (Mules, Cargobobs, Trashmasters, Caddys, Tornados, Boxvilles, etc.) will be left in the main infobox or variants section. I can prepare the navbox now, might even also get started on some pages. Is there anything you'd want to add to the list or share opinions? V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 21:16, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

(Reset indent) wow! So, just to confirm, that list is showing SEPARATE pages? (So 9F and 9F cabrio will be separated, for example). If we go ahead with this, I'd like to us start the project tomorrow if thats okay with you too ;) for the sake of help and such. Monk Talk 21:31, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, "[Original page] > [Split]". That's okay with me (I might not be very active, though). I already did the Banshee 900R, which actually has quite a lot of content. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 22:28, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

::Cool. Can I do the same thing on at least all possible aircraft? --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 22:35, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Just done MOD.0. Don't worry wild, theres no rush. I'll get a few done tomorrow. Cam, no offense, but can't you finish 'your' project? XD I mean, you started it, don't lose where you are, man. :) Monk Talk 22:42, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

:::>:/ --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 22:57, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Jeez. Was it something I said? :| Monk Talk 22:59, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

:::::Yes. And it's totally unfair >:T --Body Armor Android SWAT Cam F Torpedo Android Detonator Android Crate Android 04:52, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Woah! Looking good! Got a lot done guys! ;) see what was all the fuss about when this is clearly more consistent and convenient. In fact, it tidies pages! :P Guy A (Junior) - That Ferrari Guy (talk) 00:32, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
This is not on. Major differences like the Buffalo and Oracle I can just understand, but just because it says armoured in the title, or has another word, like SuperVolito Carbon? Ridiculous, just cluttering the wiki with pointless clone pages of vehicles that have minor differences is pointless. I'm not getting involved this time, no matter what's brought up, it's just more pointless splits and you're wasting your time. If merging is suggested then it's all arguments and votes, when splits are suggested all the rules go out the window. Leo68 (talk) 07:36, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

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